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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 00:58:49
December 27 2013 00:57 GMT
#2121
nothing pointless about sightstone and the gp item, but yea mikhals I agree.

pink slot is dicy, I mean, pinks are crazy strong in solo q, they can last 15+ min easy, but again when it comes time yea I usually fill the spot.
Carrilord has arrived.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 27 2013 01:16 GMT
#2122
On December 27 2013 09:56 turdburgler wrote:
ye but dat solo q doe, support items are pointless if you dont know if your team will even make use of them : /

What? The coin upgrade is amazing for getting your team back to turrets after one inevitably goes ham a little too early. Or letting the whole team follow up a zealous malphite
Freeeeeeedom
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
December 27 2013 01:23 GMT
#2123
i thought the coin being part of your build was a given. im talking about the stun removal and whatever else you can buy right now. they are good if the player will actually work with you to make use of them but otherwise...
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
December 27 2013 01:45 GMT
#2124
On December 27 2013 09:34 turdburgler wrote:
jannas problem isnt that her shield doesnt give enough AD so its not really a relevant comparison. janna feels like a waste of space in lane, i dont get that feeling on nami at all.


Janna's problem is threefold

1) weak laning phase. Supports need to win the laning phase to snowball. Janna only wins the laning phase if her adc does

2) really weak scaling* means that you need an item advantage to be effective compared to someone like Annie. But you can't get that item advantage because you aren't a Mage or tank and don't win lane without your adc hard countering them.

3) few assassin oriented teams. Janna's peel is really strong against assassins. It's a lot weaker against standard mages or AOE comps. Season 4 has more than doubled the number of mages you tend to face because there is a Mage mid and a Mage or tank support.

Nami doesn't quite have these issues since her peel is good against linear non-assassin centered teams, and because she has a pretty good laning phase.


*in season 3 the high scaling let Janna go boot less and spend the money on AP instead. This meant that her mid and late game power was actually pretty decent compared to supports who were buying support items and/or boots. However the nerfed scaling and base ability and particularly the increase in power (due to more gold and not being nerfed) that everyone else got has meant she is relatively weak.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
December 27 2013 02:52 GMT
#2125
hey remember when i said ziggs was gonna be the next op and you guys were all too busy talking about syndra?

yes

fuck you guys

yea

+ Show Spoiler +
fk i cant be ziggs hipster anymore
TranslatorBaa!
ZataN
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand414 Posts
December 27 2013 02:55 GMT
#2126
On December 27 2013 11:52 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
hey remember when i said ziggs was gonna be the next op and you guys were all too busy talking about syndra?

yes

fuck you guys

yea

+ Show Spoiler +
fk i cant be ziggs hipster anymore

Syndra is also next OP though so..... Everybody wins?


Also: a while ago somebody here said syndra sport OP so I tried it. Syndra support fun , so bloodthirsty.
CJ BABY | FAKER > PAWN BELIEVE IT
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21247 Posts
December 27 2013 02:55 GMT
#2127
On December 27 2013 11:55 ZataN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2013 11:52 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
hey remember when i said ziggs was gonna be the next op and you guys were all too busy talking about syndra?

yes

fuck you guys

yea

+ Show Spoiler +
fk i cant be ziggs hipster anymore

Syndra is also next OP though so..... Everybody wins?


Also: a while ago somebody here said syndra sport OP so I tried it. Syndra support fun , so bloodthirsty.


syndra is so far down on the list of the common mid picks right now, hardly "the next op" ~_~
TranslatorBaa!
ZataN
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand414 Posts
December 27 2013 03:06 GMT
#2128
On December 27 2013 11:55 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2013 11:55 ZataN wrote:
On December 27 2013 11:52 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
hey remember when i said ziggs was gonna be the next op and you guys were all too busy talking about syndra?

yes

fuck you guys

yea

+ Show Spoiler +
fk i cant be ziggs hipster anymore

Syndra is also next OP though so..... Everybody wins?


Also: a while ago somebody here said syndra sport OP so I tried it. Syndra support fun , so bloodthirsty.


syndra is so far down on the list of the common mid picks right now, hardly "the next op" ~_~

I thought she was fairly commonly picked these days.
CJ BABY | FAKER > PAWN BELIEVE IT
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
December 27 2013 03:36 GMT
#2129
Im sad I've been playing top/mid Warwick for the past forever and now he's FOTM
(back since the days it was like WW/Mummy/Nunu jungles haha)

Literally you can build almost anything on him and expect to do good.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 27 2013 03:44 GMT
#2130
On December 27 2013 11:52 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
hey remember when i said ziggs was gonna be the next op and you guys were all too busy talking about syndra?

yes

fuck you guys

yea

+ Show Spoiler +
fk i cant be ziggs hipster anymore


On September 25 2013 10:09 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 09:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 24 2013 22:42 Fildun wrote:
On September 24 2013 22:08 nafta wrote:
Xerath is so good on eu atm.With kassa/fizz/ahri/zed pretty much banned every game there aren't even that many champs left to shut him down.

Exactly. With those four banned the mid playing field is pretty even right now. I've been pulling out an old favorite of mine, Evelynn mid, with great success.

OH SHIT THAT'S RIGHT!


telling you now if assassins get nerfed across the board, the golden age of Ziggs shall arise.
Carrilord has arrived.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 27 2013 03:56 GMT
#2131
I think the ONLY reason why Janna does not see competitive play is her absolutely garbage 2v1.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
December 27 2013 04:32 GMT
#2132
what about her terrible 2v2
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 27 2013 04:37 GMT
#2133
The fact that Riot also nerfed her numbers across the board heavily doesn't help either.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 27 2013 05:20 GMT
#2134
On December 27 2013 12:56 Sufficiency wrote:
I think the ONLY reason why Janna does not see competitive play is her absolutely garbage 2v1.


I don't doubt you, but why is her 2v1 terrible? Doesn't the AD steroid make tower pushing pretty good? And Q is probably the best anti-all-in in the game that early no?

Her 3v1 kinda sucks of course, and sadly her lategame was intentionally destroyed by Riot.
Freeeeeeedom
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
December 27 2013 06:23 GMT
#2135
Toplane Shyvana freelo train, if she gets through its pretty hard to lose lane.

Hit them with E? Turn w on hit q and right click
Dont hit them with E? Turn w on hit q and right click

out trade like any champion
while farming like a boss.
much thanks for getting me plat :D
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
December 27 2013 06:39 GMT
#2136
On December 27 2013 15:23 arb wrote:
Toplane Shyvana freelo train, if she gets through its pretty hard to lose lane.

Hit them with E? Turn w on hit q and right click
Dont hit them with E? Turn w on hit q and right click

out trade like any champion
while farming like a boss.
much thanks for getting me plat :D


This isn't directed at you but being a top lane main right now is so boring with everyone spamming shyvana/mundo/rengar, I've been playing SC2 instead when my duo buddy isn't on. The resource less champs have reached a new level of lame, can't kill 1v1 anymore it is just boring waveclear.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
December 27 2013 06:44 GMT
#2137
So I want to be hipster and play random AP champs with TP top (Ryze/Lissandra/Diana), but I feel like AP top is more or less nonviable vs the tanky SV/Sunfire champs.

Literally the only AP champ I feel that can hang in the current meta of Top lane is probably Vlad, and even then it seems rough/not in his favor.

Aka: I hate playing Top lane now.
Forever Young
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 07:02:34
December 27 2013 07:01 GMT
#2138
Problem with AP top is you basically need to get a champ that can duel a tanky top laner that gets first item Spectre Cowl and SV within your first backing or two. And of the AP champs that could go top lane, I think the only ones that can get away with it are Diana (gets Abyssal Sceptre or Lich Bane and then goes tanky AP), Kayle (MR shred on her passive), Zac and Elise (% HP dmg on their attacks), and possibly Brand (%HP damage tick on the passive and can stun to survive a possible gank). The reason why Cassiopiea can't go top is because she has 0 escape mechanisms outside of Flash.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 27 2013 07:01 GMT
#2139
On December 27 2013 11:52 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
hey remember when i said ziggs was gonna be the next op and you guys were all too busy talking about syndra?

yes

fuck you guys

yea

+ Show Spoiler +
fk i cant be ziggs hipster anymore

So the key is to name any champion, and wait for Riot to outrageously buff them and nerf their main competitor, and then claim you are hipster?
liftlift > tsm
NukeD
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia1612 Posts
December 27 2013 07:28 GMT
#2140
sorry for dem one liners
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