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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 18:19:58
December 27 2013 18:18 GMT
#2201
I know it was the rage back in the day, but is 160cs at 20 minutes still a good thing to aim for ?

Also still thing Aegis/Locket has its value vs a double ap(i.e they arent playing a tanky toplane) since the aura without the armor is still beneficial vs double ap
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 27 2013 18:21 GMT
#2202
A possibly applicable story happened to me recently. As I've said before my experence with the game is 80% stacking with friends ~20% playing by myself, as such I play significantly more normals than I do ranked (I think I played like placements +3 games in order to get my friend and I Elise last year.

As such, although I can't be sure I have a suspision that my normal mmr is superior to my ranked mmr.

ANyway since s3 ended a lot of my friends have been taking a break to play other games, or just for school work, so I've been playing by myself a lot lately and I decided to start learning adc since 3 of my good friends are adc I rarely if ever play it. after spamming normals I started to learn how to salvage lanes with "those" supports, I made sure to always find time to farm, so even if I was losing lane I would have enough farm to do relevant damage in team fights, and finally I thought to myself I'm feeling pretty solid at this role I should play some ranked since adc is really easy to get reliably.

Now it depends on what my hidden mmr actually is for all I know this is complete coincidence, but holy shit did nobody give a shit about me in ranked compared to my normals, even the supports would value their lives/progression more than mine. Teamfights everyone just runs for their targets and I'm left to 1v1 the top laner, I ask for help with x champion diving me and I'm borderline muted the difference was crazy

then again it might just be the entitled attitude people tend to play with in ranked.
Carrilord has arrived.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
December 27 2013 18:53 GMT
#2203
On December 28 2013 03:21 Slusher wrote:
A possibly applicable story happened to me recently. As I've said before my experence with the game is 80% stacking with friends ~20% playing by myself, as such I play significantly more normals than I do ranked (I think I played like placements +3 games in order to get my friend and I Elise last year.

As such, although I can't be sure I have a suspision that my normal mmr is superior to my ranked mmr.

ANyway since s3 ended a lot of my friends have been taking a break to play other games, or just for school work, so I've been playing by myself a lot lately and I decided to start learning adc since 3 of my good friends are adc I rarely if ever play it. after spamming normals I started to learn how to salvage lanes with "those" supports, I made sure to always find time to farm, so even if I was losing lane I would have enough farm to do relevant damage in team fights, and finally I thought to myself I'm feeling pretty solid at this role I should play some ranked since adc is really easy to get reliably.

Now it depends on what my hidden mmr actually is for all I know this is complete coincidence, but holy shit did nobody give a shit about me in ranked compared to my normals, even the supports would value their lives/progression more than mine. Teamfights everyone just runs for their targets and I'm left to 1v1 the top laner, I ask for help with x champion diving me and I'm borderline muted the difference was crazy

then again it might just be the entitled attitude people tend to play with in ranked.

Congrats you just found out why all ads love playing vayne.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
December 27 2013 19:19 GMT
#2204
Play lucian, he has op kiting.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
December 27 2013 19:33 GMT
#2205
And now you know why Tristana is stupid, self-peel.
Steam: rook492
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21963 Posts
December 27 2013 19:36 GMT
#2206
On December 28 2013 04:33 Crusnik wrote:
And now you know why Tristana is stupid, self-peel.

Main reason why i play her and lucian exclusively in soloQ when i need to adc. You have to be able to handle getting dove without your team peeling.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
December 27 2013 19:37 GMT
#2207
On December 28 2013 02:41 NotYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 02:21 Nos- wrote:
That diamond only forum sounds pretty good right now, if only so we won't have to read this pointless "discussion"

What if we made a Diamond-only Off-Topic Discussion?

Are we using league rankings or current OT shit-posting rankings
Bronze player stuck in platinum
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
December 27 2013 19:52 GMT
#2208
On December 28 2013 04:37 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 02:41 NotYango wrote:
On December 28 2013 02:21 Nos- wrote:
That diamond only forum sounds pretty good right now, if only so we won't have to read this pointless "discussion"

What if we made a Diamond-only Off-Topic Discussion?

Are we using league rankings or current OT shit-posting rankings


Nobody is stopping you from making a high level discussion thread, where you can discuss diamond level issues. But you don't. You rather make 1 liner remarks about how everyone makes bad posts and how that is somehow related to their league ranking. Well that kind of makes me believe that you actually don't have that much to say. Hopefully you can prove me otherwise.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 27 2013 19:59 GMT
#2209
IDK what the point of such a thread would be. No one (besides Yango) wants to talk about the game anyways. The closest you get is someone saying 5 patches ago how awesome Shyvana is, then bragging about it now.
Freeeeeeedom
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 27 2013 20:18 GMT
#2210
On December 28 2013 04:59 cLutZ wrote:
IDK what the point of such a thread would be. No one (besides Yango) wants to talk about the game anyways. The closest you get is someone saying 5 patches ago how awesome Shyvana is, then bragging about it now.



Often it is one correct prediction out of 20 wrong ones.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
December 27 2013 20:18 GMT
#2211
On December 28 2013 04:52 clickrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 04:37 Nos- wrote:
On December 28 2013 02:41 NotYango wrote:
On December 28 2013 02:21 Nos- wrote:
That diamond only forum sounds pretty good right now, if only so we won't have to read this pointless "discussion"

What if we made a Diamond-only Off-Topic Discussion?

Are we using league rankings or current OT shit-posting rankings


Nobody is stopping you from making a high level discussion thread, where you can discuss diamond level issues. But you don't. You rather make 1 liner remarks about how everyone makes bad posts and how that is somehow related to their league ranking. Well that kind of makes me believe that you actually don't have that much to say. Hopefully you can prove me otherwise.

Whoa calm down
TranslatorBaa!
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
December 27 2013 20:19 GMT
#2212
On December 28 2013 04:59 cLutZ wrote:
IDK what the point of such a thread would be. No one (besides Yango) wants to talk about the game anyways. The closest you get is someone saying 5 patches ago how awesome Shyvana is, then bragging about it now.

yango is a gold shitter he can't post
TranslatorBaa!
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
December 27 2013 20:19 GMT
#2213
On December 28 2013 05:18 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 04:59 cLutZ wrote:
IDK what the point of such a thread would be. No one (besides Yango) wants to talk about the game anyways. The closest you get is someone saying 5 patches ago how awesome Shyvana is, then bragging about it now.



Often it is one correct prediction out of 20 wrong ones.

5 percent is better than a lot of people in this forum

TranslatorBaa!
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 20:22:44
December 27 2013 20:20 GMT
#2214
I only triple posted cuz it's hard to edit on mobile bow I'm a good poster I promise

Quad to explain that.
TranslatorBaa!
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 27 2013 20:24 GMT
#2215
Pretty sure it is not even against the rules to triple post? I actually find it better to address posts by different users on different posts.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
December 27 2013 20:26 GMT
#2216
On December 28 2013 04:36 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 04:33 Crusnik wrote:
And now you know why Tristana is stupid, self-peel.

Main reason why i play her and lucian exclusively in soloQ when i need to adc. You have to be able to handle getting dove without your team peeling.

Yup, I played mostly her for my Silver series's, I also like Varus, but there's always a Talon in those games and I just die if I dont zone him off of me/kill him outright...

Jinx is also extremely fun to play, people are actually picking her though, so I have to revert to Tristana/Lucian
Steam: rook492
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 20:31:28
December 27 2013 20:30 GMT
#2217
On December 28 2013 05:26 Crusnik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 04:36 Gorsameth wrote:
On December 28 2013 04:33 Crusnik wrote:
And now you know why Tristana is stupid, self-peel.

Main reason why i play her and lucian exclusively in soloQ when i need to adc. You have to be able to handle getting dove without your team peeling.

Yup, I played mostly her for my Silver series's, I also like Varus, but there's always a Talon in those games and I just die if I dont zone him off of me/kill him outright...

Jinx is also extremely fun to play, people are actually picking her though, so I have to revert to Tristana/Lucian

I think Ezreal may be better depending on your comfort on him than trist if you're looking for self peel.

does normal draft take into account your normal blind pick mmr?
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
December 27 2013 20:31 GMT
#2218
On December 28 2013 02:27 turdburgler wrote:
its not more or less pointless than the other stuff that gets said here. elitist pig swine!



I know you're joking, but I'm rather amused that you guys consider me an elitist, when I'm arguably the worst of all the Diamond players on this forum :p


On December 28 2013 02:41 NotYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 02:21 Nos- wrote:
That diamond only forum sounds pretty good right now, if only so we won't have to read this pointless "discussion"

What if we made a Diamond-only Off-Topic Discussion?



That would be pretty cool, but i don't like splitting people up. Reminds me too much of The Berlin Wall :<
hi
remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
December 27 2013 20:33 GMT
#2219
Well this got morbid in a hurry.
Stay positive!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
December 27 2013 20:36 GMT
#2220
On December 28 2013 05:30 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 05:26 Crusnik wrote:
On December 28 2013 04:36 Gorsameth wrote:
On December 28 2013 04:33 Crusnik wrote:
And now you know why Tristana is stupid, self-peel.

Main reason why i play her and lucian exclusively in soloQ when i need to adc. You have to be able to handle getting dove without your team peeling.

Yup, I played mostly her for my Silver series's, I also like Varus, but there's always a Talon in those games and I just die if I dont zone him off of me/kill him outright...

Jinx is also extremely fun to play, people are actually picking her though, so I have to revert to Tristana/Lucian

I think Ezreal may be better depending on your comfort on him than trist if you're looking for self peel.

does normal draft take into account your normal blind pick mmr?

Ezreal super snowbally too imo, plus he's slippery as fuck, where as tristana when you hit 6 item its basically game for the other team, you can punish the other team alot harder for mistakes with ezreal i think
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