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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 27 2013 20:44 GMT
#2221
On December 28 2013 05:30 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 05:26 Crusnik wrote:
On December 28 2013 04:36 Gorsameth wrote:
On December 28 2013 04:33 Crusnik wrote:
And now you know why Tristana is stupid, self-peel.

Main reason why i play her and lucian exclusively in soloQ when i need to adc. You have to be able to handle getting dove without your team peeling.

Yup, I played mostly her for my Silver series's, I also like Varus, but there's always a Talon in those games and I just die if I dont zone him off of me/kill him outright...

Jinx is also extremely fun to play, people are actually picking her though, so I have to revert to Tristana/Lucian

I think Ezreal may be better depending on your comfort on him than trist if you're looking for self peel.

does normal draft take into account your normal blind pick mmr?


in my experience I don't think so, I don't ever play blind pick unless I'm playing with someone who specifically requests it and the games are generally hilariously easy.

but in reality I have no idea
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22345 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 21:00:17
December 27 2013 20:59 GMT
#2222
On December 28 2013 05:30 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 05:26 Crusnik wrote:
On December 28 2013 04:36 Gorsameth wrote:
On December 28 2013 04:33 Crusnik wrote:
And now you know why Tristana is stupid, self-peel.

Main reason why i play her and lucian exclusively in soloQ when i need to adc. You have to be able to handle getting dove without your team peeling.

Yup, I played mostly her for my Silver series's, I also like Varus, but there's always a Talon in those games and I just die if I dont zone him off of me/kill him outright...

Jinx is also extremely fun to play, people are actually picking her though, so I have to revert to Tristana/Lucian

I think Ezreal may be better depending on your comfort on him than trist if you're looking for self peel.

does normal draft take into account your normal blind pick mmr?

Yes Ez i super safe aswell but his late game carry isnt as good. Esp with all the tanky bruisers running around nowadays.

Could be that im just not good enough with him tho :p but I always feel like my lategame dmg is pitiful when i play him.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Crusnik
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5378 Posts
December 27 2013 22:06 GMT
#2223
On December 28 2013 05:59 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 05:30 Nos- wrote:
On December 28 2013 05:26 Crusnik wrote:
On December 28 2013 04:36 Gorsameth wrote:
On December 28 2013 04:33 Crusnik wrote:
And now you know why Tristana is stupid, self-peel.

Main reason why i play her and lucian exclusively in soloQ when i need to adc. You have to be able to handle getting dove without your team peeling.

Yup, I played mostly her for my Silver series's, I also like Varus, but there's always a Talon in those games and I just die if I dont zone him off of me/kill him outright...

Jinx is also extremely fun to play, people are actually picking her though, so I have to revert to Tristana/Lucian

I think Ezreal may be better depending on your comfort on him than trist if you're looking for self peel.

does normal draft take into account your normal blind pick mmr?

Yes Ez i super safe aswell but his late game carry isnt as good. Esp with all the tanky bruisers running around nowadays.

Could be that im just not good enough with him tho :p but I always feel like my lategame dmg is pitiful when i play him.

Going by lolparse, Ezreal on my laptop and desktop has like 100 games played combined, so he is one of my more played carrries, I just cant play him since he's so weak currently compared to Lucian/jinx/trist/varus, and supports aren't nearly as squishy anymore, so I cant just poke them 3-4 times with q and then go all in and kill them like I could before.
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 23:08:03
December 27 2013 22:51 GMT
#2224
Lol listening to qtpie's reflection interview, he was originally a mid laner and was recruited as a top for dignitas but was forced to ADC and he actually hates it. Kinda surprised he doesn't consider himself mechanical and therefore more suited for mid.
l0cust got stuck in 1.3k elo in Korea when dignitas went there, u w0t m8.
Glorious SEA doto
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 27 2013 22:58 GMT
#2225
On December 28 2013 07:51 Fusilero wrote:
Lol listening to qtpie's reflection interview, he was originally a mid laner and was recruited as a top for dignitas but was forced to ADC and he actually hates it. Kinda surprised he doesn't consider himself mechanical and therefore more suited for mid.

He fucking hates adc. He tries to avoid it as much as possible in solo queue. Not like it matters. He's a final fantasy pro at heart.
liftlift > tsm
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
December 27 2013 23:48 GMT
#2226
The only thing I got from qtpie is dignitas just doesnt give a fuck about anything and he can't stop trolling.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 28 2013 00:28 GMT
#2227
On December 28 2013 07:58 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 07:51 Fusilero wrote:
Lol listening to qtpie's reflection interview, he was originally a mid laner and was recruited as a top for dignitas but was forced to ADC and he actually hates it. Kinda surprised he doesn't consider himself mechanical and therefore more suited for mid.

He fucking hates adc. He tries to avoid it as much as possible in solo queue. Not like it matters. He's a final fantasy pro at heart.


Oh man. I saw him playing FFX on stream one time... he named Tidus Locodoco LOLOLOL
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 00:39:30
December 28 2013 00:38 GMT
#2228
On December 28 2013 09:28 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 07:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 28 2013 07:51 Fusilero wrote:
Lol listening to qtpie's reflection interview, he was originally a mid laner and was recruited as a top for dignitas but was forced to ADC and he actually hates it. Kinda surprised he doesn't consider himself mechanical and therefore more suited for mid.

He fucking hates adc. He tries to avoid it as much as possible in solo queue. Not like it matters. He's a final fantasy pro at heart.


Oh man. I saw him playing FFX on stream one time... he named Tidus Locodoco LOLOLOL

the interview is fucking great overall. Something about qtpie makes his answers to questions fucking hilarious. Also, you know your team name is bad when interviewers can't even bother saying it. 'xdg or whatever the fuck they're called now'
liftlift > tsm
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
December 28 2013 00:47 GMT
#2229
On December 28 2013 08:48 nafta wrote:
The only thing I got from qtpie is dignitas just doesnt give a fuck about anything and he can't stop trolling.


I mean this is what people from 4chan generally do no? That's where I knew him from first. Back when ADC/Support botlane wasn't a thing.
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Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
December 28 2013 00:58 GMT
#2230
On December 28 2013 07:58 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 07:51 Fusilero wrote:
Lol listening to qtpie's reflection interview, he was originally a mid laner and was recruited as a top for dignitas but was forced to ADC and he actually hates it. Kinda surprised he doesn't consider himself mechanical and therefore more suited for mid.

He fucking hates adc. He tries to avoid it as much as possible in solo queue. Not like it matters. He's a final fantasy pro at heart.



Not to argue but I watch a lot of qt and all I see him play in solo q is adc....
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 28 2013 01:21 GMT
#2231
On December 28 2013 09:58 Shelke14 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 07:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 28 2013 07:51 Fusilero wrote:
Lol listening to qtpie's reflection interview, he was originally a mid laner and was recruited as a top for dignitas but was forced to ADC and he actually hates it. Kinda surprised he doesn't consider himself mechanical and therefore more suited for mid.

He fucking hates adc. He tries to avoid it as much as possible in solo queue. Not like it matters. He's a final fantasy pro at heart.



Not to argue but I watch a lot of qt and all I see him play in solo q is adc....

Well it is his job to play ADC, I'd say of the pro streams I've observed he's one of the highest for playing off his role. I've seen him mid quite a few times.
Glorious SEA doto
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
December 28 2013 01:27 GMT
#2232
On December 28 2013 10:21 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 09:58 Shelke14 wrote:
On December 28 2013 07:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 28 2013 07:51 Fusilero wrote:
Lol listening to qtpie's reflection interview, he was originally a mid laner and was recruited as a top for dignitas but was forced to ADC and he actually hates it. Kinda surprised he doesn't consider himself mechanical and therefore more suited for mid.

He fucking hates adc. He tries to avoid it as much as possible in solo queue. Not like it matters. He's a final fantasy pro at heart.



Not to argue but I watch a lot of qt and all I see him play in solo q is adc....

Well it is his job to play ADC, I'd say of the pro streams I've observed he's one of the highest for playing off his role. I've seen him mid quite a few times.

He used to semi-main Zed when Zed was all the rage
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littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
December 28 2013 01:38 GMT
#2233
On December 28 2013 07:58 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 07:51 Fusilero wrote:
Lol listening to qtpie's reflection interview, he was originally a mid laner and was recruited as a top for dignitas but was forced to ADC and he actually hates it. Kinda surprised he doesn't consider himself mechanical and therefore more suited for mid.

He fucking hates adc. He tries to avoid it as much as possible in solo queue. Not like it matters. He's a final fantasy pro at heart.

Yeah, qtpie is one of the few pro streamers I've seen that usually tries to fill whatever role the rest of his team doesn't want to play. He ends up playing mid and jungle quite a bit. That Grilled/Reflections interview is probably my favorite one yet. The Bischu one was pretty good too.
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
December 28 2013 02:19 GMT
#2234
On December 28 2013 10:38 littlechava wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 07:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 28 2013 07:51 Fusilero wrote:
Lol listening to qtpie's reflection interview, he was originally a mid laner and was recruited as a top for dignitas but was forced to ADC and he actually hates it. Kinda surprised he doesn't consider himself mechanical and therefore more suited for mid.

He fucking hates adc. He tries to avoid it as much as possible in solo queue. Not like it matters. He's a final fantasy pro at heart.

Yeah, qtpie is one of the few pro streamers I've seen that usually tries to fill whatever role the rest of his team doesn't want to play. He ends up playing mid and jungle quite a bit. That Grilled/Reflections interview is probably my favorite one yet. The Bischu one was pretty good too.


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Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
December 28 2013 02:20 GMT
#2235
What are people's thoughts on BT/TF first on lucian?
Bronze player stuck in platinum
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 28 2013 02:28 GMT
#2236
On December 28 2013 11:20 Nos- wrote:
What are people's thoughts on BT/TF first on lucian?

The norm. Gives insane burst dmg.
liftlift > tsm
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
December 28 2013 02:32 GMT
#2237
Delays power spikes too hard imo.If you want to start bf just go bt otherwise phage.Especially with how common it is to get armor on supp/jungler/top early you really need an early lw and bf>tf>lw is just too late honestly.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
December 28 2013 02:41 GMT
#2238
On December 28 2013 11:32 nafta wrote:
Delays power spikes too hard imo.If you want to start bf just go bt otherwise phage.Especially with how common it is to get armor on supp/jungler/top early you really need an early lw and bf>tf>lw is just too late honestly.

I worded that badly. I meant getting a bt first vs a tf first. There is the BT -> PD path and the TF -> LW path. Was wondering about choosing between those two.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 02:44:04
December 28 2013 02:43 GMT
#2239
On December 28 2013 11:32 nafta wrote:
Delays power spikes too hard imo.If you want to start bf just go bt otherwise phage.Especially with how common it is to get armor on supp/jungler/top early you really need an early lw and bf>tf>lw is just too late honestly.

Depends imo. If top lane is just splitpushing all day and not joining teamfight. Which is pretty likely in meta. Bt/tf is fine. Also dat culling damage. But now that you mention it. If you team fights are including top laners tf/lw is better. (Assuming they went sunfire)
liftlift > tsm
littlechava
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States7221 Posts
December 28 2013 02:45 GMT
#2240
On December 28 2013 11:19 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 10:38 littlechava wrote:
On December 28 2013 07:58 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 28 2013 07:51 Fusilero wrote:
Lol listening to qtpie's reflection interview, he was originally a mid laner and was recruited as a top for dignitas but was forced to ADC and he actually hates it. Kinda surprised he doesn't consider himself mechanical and therefore more suited for mid.

He fucking hates adc. He tries to avoid it as much as possible in solo queue. Not like it matters. He's a final fantasy pro at heart.

Yeah, qtpie is one of the few pro streamers I've seen that usually tries to fill whatever role the rest of his team doesn't want to play. He ends up playing mid and jungle quite a bit. That Grilled/Reflections interview is probably my favorite one yet. The Bischu one was pretty good too.


WTF KEEN UR STILL ALIVE

hi

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