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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
November 23 2013 02:51 GMT
#881
On November 23 2013 11:48 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 11:47 Shikyo wrote:
On November 23 2013 11:46 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
On November 23 2013 11:45 Shikyo wrote:
Can't Yasuo completely deny lasthits with the Windfall for 3.75s? For free, everytime it's off cooldown.

I don't think autoattacks are projectiles. Not sure tho, fact check me on that.

I don't know either, that's why I asked .-. Logic says they should be...


Autoattacks are just animations. Projectiles are coded as minions.

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Riot Logic
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
November 23 2013 02:53 GMT
#882
On November 23 2013 11:49 iCanada wrote:
Okay...

So, I dont understand how to win games anymore. It honestly makes no sense to me. Soloqueue right now is like 100% stall till late game and gamble on the fact that someone on the other team hard-derps instead of someone on your team.

Doesn't matter who you play, how you play, where you play, Gold from Relics keeps things so even.

The game feels so bleh right now. Its like a bunch of stuff happens for thirty minutes, none of it matters, and then one team just wins.

I almost feel like in the 20 games I've played the team that was behind at the ten minute mark has won like 90% of the time because the "ahead" team just hard throws because they dont have vision and the Relics just make vision much much muuuch more important than almost any gold gap you could possibly have.


They're going to nerf Relics and try and return balance to the force. Until then you can play other things.

This is why a preseason happens.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 23 2013 02:53 GMT
#883
On November 23 2013 11:49 iCanada wrote:
Okay...

So, I dont understand how to win games anymore. It honestly makes no sense to me. Soloqueue right now is like 100% stall till late game and gamble on the fact that someone on the other team hard-derps instead of someone on your team.

Doesn't matter who you play, how you play, where you play, Gold from Relics keeps things so even.

The game feels so bleh right now. Its like a bunch of stuff happens for thirty minutes, none of it matters, and then one team just wins.

I almost feel like in the 20 games I've played the team that was behind at the ten minute mark has won like 90% of the time because the "ahead" team just hard throws because they dont have vision and the Relics just make vision much much muuuch more important than almost any gold gap you could possibly have.

Play Anivia, always stall, never lose.
Freeeeeeedom
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
November 23 2013 02:54 GMT
#884
If their team has relics and your team has relics, how is it that their relics can keep things even?
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 23 2013 02:57 GMT
#885
have the worst luck with all for one, Nid v Nid every game teammates so boring.
Carrilord has arrived.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 03:01:23
November 23 2013 02:59 GMT
#886
On November 23 2013 11:54 canikizu wrote:
If their team has relics and your team has relics, how is it that their relics can keep things even?


there are a lot of mechanics in the game that try to even things out.
And then you have all this ambient gold that makes getting for example 20 lasthits more in lane not as important % wise, imo.

So the ambient gold is kind of neutralizing skill differences and the other mechanics try to make gold and xp even at all times.


Its like on of those terrible racing games where the cars that are behind rubberband until they are not.
So he only thing that matters is the last 30 seconds before the finish.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 03:00:38
November 23 2013 02:59 GMT
#887
On November 23 2013 11:54 canikizu wrote:
If their team has relics and your team has relics, how is it that their relics can keep things even?


The inflation of gold minimizes differences in gold.

If one team has 20k gold and the other team has 15k gold, the winning team has a rather large advantage.

If one team has 40k gold and the other team has 35k, the winning team has a relatively minimal advantage comparatively.

Relics even this out and keep things even by accelerating the amount of time required for that gold gap to no longer be relevant.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 23 2013 02:59 GMT
#888
On November 23 2013 11:59 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 11:54 canikizu wrote:
If their team has relics and your team has relics, how is it that their relics can keep things even?


there are a lot of mechanics in the game that try to even things out.


Its like on of those terrible racing games where the cars that are behind rubberband until they are not.
So he only thing that matters is the last 30 seconds before the finish.


so basically every mario kart after the SNES version.
Carrilord has arrived.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 23 2013 03:00 GMT
#889
On November 23 2013 11:59 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 11:54 canikizu wrote:
If their team has relics and your team has relics, how is it that their relics can keep things even?


The inflation of gold minimizes differences in gold.

If one team has 20k gold and the other team has 15k gold, the winning team has a rather large advantage.

If one team has 40k gold and the other team has 35k, the winning team has a relatively minimal advantage comparatively.

Relics even this out and keep things even by accelerating the amount of time it requires that gold gap to no longer be relevant.


isn't passive gold buffed as well, it sure feels like it is but I might just be deluding myself.
Carrilord has arrived.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 23 2013 03:00 GMT
#890
So if I'm sololaning, say toplane... Is there a reason why I wouldn't want to start with Relic Shield?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 23 2013 03:02 GMT
#891
On November 23 2013 12:00 Shikyo wrote:
So if I'm sololaning, say toplane... Is there a reason why I wouldn't want to start with Relic Shield?


only if your jungler doesn't understand, and ridicules you for suggesting him laning for the most part.

if I log in on an account w/o Nidalee can my team still vote for her in one for all?
Carrilord has arrived.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
November 23 2013 03:02 GMT
#892
On November 23 2013 12:00 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 11:59 iCanada wrote:
On November 23 2013 11:54 canikizu wrote:
If their team has relics and your team has relics, how is it that their relics can keep things even?


The inflation of gold minimizes differences in gold.

If one team has 20k gold and the other team has 15k gold, the winning team has a rather large advantage.

If one team has 40k gold and the other team has 35k, the winning team has a relatively minimal advantage comparatively.

Relics even this out and keep things even by accelerating the amount of time it requires that gold gap to no longer be relevant.


isn't passive gold buffed as well, it sure feels like it is but I might just be deluding myself.


Yeah, and they nerfed experience across the board while implementing quite noticeable experience rubber bands.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
November 23 2013 03:02 GMT
#893
Roccat KotH: Quantic vs vVv: vVv runs full melee/bruiser comp with Riven+Kha vs traditional Quantic comp.

Koreans got smashed. Does 3.14 mean the end of our Korean Overlords?

/j
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 23 2013 03:03 GMT
#894
you almost baited me into an actualy response.
Carrilord has arrived.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
November 23 2013 03:11 GMT
#895
On November 23 2013 12:03 Slusher wrote:
you almost baited me into an actualy response.

Would you respond to Battle Bunny Talon?
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"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 03:14:25
November 23 2013 03:12 GMT
#896
On November 23 2013 11:49 iCanada wrote:
Okay...

So, I dont understand how to win games anymore. It honestly makes no sense to me. Soloqueue right now is like 100% stall till late game and gamble on the fact that someone on the other team hard-derps instead of someone on your team.

Doesn't matter who you play, how you play, where you play, Gold from Relics keeps things so even.

The game feels so bleh right now. Its like a bunch of stuff happens for thirty minutes, none of it matters, and then one team just wins.

I almost feel like in the 20 games I've played the team that was behind at the ten minute mark has won like 90% of the time because the "ahead" team just hard throws because they dont have vision and the Relics just make vision much much muuuch more important than almost any gold gap you could possibly have.


I don't understand. This has always been how soloqueue is.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 03:16:57
November 23 2013 03:14 GMT
#897
On November 23 2013 12:00 Shikyo wrote:
So if I'm sololaning, say toplane... Is there a reason why I wouldn't want to start with Relic Shield?

Your inventory will be like a big red flag saying your jungler will constantly camp here.

But yeah, I like the idea where top and mid both start with runic shield, and jungler still goes jungle, but constantly gank both lane so that top and mid can feed him more gold. Incoming 8 min sunfirecap jungler.


On November 23 2013 12:14 Shikyo wrote:
I believe that because of everyone catching up after falling behind np, teams should begin running 5 lategame carries. A mass bruiser / meleecarry lineup would probably be a good idea.

Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 12:14 canikizu wrote:
On November 23 2013 12:00 Shikyo wrote:
So if I'm sololaning, say toplane... Is there a reason why I wouldn't want to start with Relic Shield?

Your inventory will be like a big red flag saying your jungler will constantly camp here.

So it doesn't proc on myself?

No, it's auto proc when there's a nearby ally.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 03:15:18
November 23 2013 03:14 GMT
#898
I believe that because of everyone catching up after falling behind np, teams should begin running 5 lategame carries. A mass bruiser / meleecarry lineup would probably be a good idea.

On November 23 2013 12:14 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2013 12:00 Shikyo wrote:
So if I'm sololaning, say toplane... Is there a reason why I wouldn't want to start with Relic Shield?

Your inventory will be like a big red flag saying your jungler will constantly camp here.

So it doesn't proc on myself?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-23 03:16:55
November 23 2013 03:16 GMT
#899
On November 23 2013 12:14 Shikyo wrote:
I believe that because of everyone catching up after falling behind np, teams should begin running 5 lategame carries. A mass bruiser / meleecarry lineup would probably be a good idea.

So basically the vVv lineup they JUST ran against Quantic?

link
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 23 2013 03:20 GMT
#900
Probably. Because if you can just double Relic Shield without worries for falling behind(those even provide HP regen), can't you just run something like Wukong bot who will just 1shot the ADC every fight
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
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