EPT[Patch 3.14] PreSeason 4 General Discussion - Page 46
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Requizen
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 23 2013 12:00 Shikyo wrote: So if I'm sololaning, say toplane... Is there a reason why I wouldn't want to start with Relic Shield? If you jungler refuses to visit your lane. that's the big reason. To be honest, even optimally, relic is a shit pick up as a starting item in solo lane. Your junglers first clear going to take around 4 minutes, so you have around 2 minutes of lane time without any real amount of stats, and that's assuming he's visiting your lane first, and not the other solo lane. I think standard starting item might be better, then first back into targons. (also gives you time to "feel" if your junglers is going to do the duo lane thing with you) | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Only thing you need to know is that he has a 0.1 second cooldown 2.0 AP ratio dash. On November 23 2013 12:23 wei2coolman wrote: If you jungler refuses to visit your lane. that's the big reason. To be honest, even optimally, relic is a shit pick up as a starting item in solo lane. Your junglers first clear going to take around 4 minutes, so you have around 2 minutes of lane time without any real amount of stats, and that's assuming he's visiting your lane first, and not the other solo lane. I think standard starting item might be better, then first back into targons. (also gives you time to "feel" if your junglers is going to do the duo lane thing with you) So again, does it not proc for yourself? | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 23 2013 12:24 Shikyo wrote: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Yasuo Only thing you need to know is that he has a 0.1 second cooldown 2.0 AP ratio dash. So again, does it not proc for yourself? no, it does not proc for yourself, it's dead weight without teammate near you. | ||
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Shikyo
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 23 2013 12:24 Shikyo wrote: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Yasuo Only thing you need to know is that he has a 0.1 second cooldown 2.0 AP ratio dash. So again, does it not proc for yourself? Which you can only use on the same target once every 6 seconds. Still, I guess you could stack AP and dash through a minion wave one by one to clear while getting one proc on the enemy laner. And then be useless after aside from a Lich proc. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 23 2013 12:28 Shikyo wrote: Well, not sure about deadweight, because it still gives HP and HP regen with enough money leftover for a ward. I guess if the jungler just pays a single visit it easily is worth it... enemy could just as easily start aggressive build, like dblade or redpot. I think it's far smoother build up to do relic as 2nd item. How does relic interact with jungler gold items? they can work together right? you can get gold from relic and jungle items? OHH SHIT. Quantic doing duble jangles. this is actually really nice, since relic with smite is super good, can smite off cannon to get max $$$ Also, effectively splits map really hard. | ||
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Shikyo
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
HOLY FUCK, this patch. ROFL ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/cTQDi6q.jpg) | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On November 23 2013 12:35 wei2coolman wrote: LOLOL Quantic started with 4 RELIC SHIELDS. HOLY FUCK, this patch. ROFL/ What stream? | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/nesl_lol interesting, with smite on support in bot lane, they get level advantage by doing jungle right after shoving the lane. fucking korean level innovations. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 23 2013 12:45 Shikyo wrote: 4 Relic Shields -> 4k gold lead at 11min. okk #balanced #nottoxic Pretty ridiculous, but super fucking amusing as well. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On November 23 2013 12:47 onlywonderboy wrote: I really dislike how building one of the gold items makes it impossible to build the other ones. Like it's dumb I can't get any of the other actives just because I built one of the other items first. I feel like they should just make it so you an buy the other items but only the first one you buy actually generates gold. Should be allowed to build all the gold items, just so I can see what a 3 gold item support looks like. | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On November 23 2013 12:48 wei2coolman wrote: Should be allowed to build all the gold items, just so I can see what a 3 gold item support looks like. Like this. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i917.photobucket.com/albums/ad13/SGTDJONES/SSJ-3-goku.gif) | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On November 23 2013 12:35 wei2coolman wrote: LOLOL Quantic started with 4 RELIC SHIELDS. HOLY FUCK, this patch. ROFL Ummm, NACL and other amateur leagues have been running 4 relic shields as a minimum, basically since Day 1. Least I've seen in a game post-patch was 5-6 relic shields, most was 9. 4 is the absolute minimum you'll see, given bot lane duo will always start with it now. Most teams have switched onto 4 relic shields already. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
I was thinking more like. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
On November 23 2013 12:47 onlywonderboy wrote: I really dislike how building one of the gold items makes it impossible to build the other ones. Like it's dumb I can't get any of the other actives just because I built one of the other items first. I feel like they should just make it so you an buy the other items but only the first one you buy actually generates gold. Go GP support, or somebody who makes use of crit, and buy an avarice blade on top. That's the only way to get more than 1. Oh wait, he also buys Tiamat to abuse Brace's AOE charges. GP sup OP. | ||
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ketchup
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On November 23 2013 12:52 Lord Tolkien wrote: Ummm, NACL and other amateur leagues have been running 4 relic shields as a minimum, basically since Day 1. Least I've seen in a game post-patch was 5-6 relic shields, most was 9. 4 is the absolute minimum you'll see, given bot lane duo will always start with it now. Most teams have switched onto 4 relic shields already. Yea, I don't know why people are making a big deal of it now. It's not like we've been talking about these games for the past few pages. Oh wait. It's been happening since the patch was released. Almost all the teams are going 4 relics each, and switching around their mids to see what happens. Curse Academy(i think it was) in that first NESL game used smite + karthus in mid lane. | ||
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