4 seconds on smite isn't big at all for Elise compared to having more damage which translates into killing camps/heroes/minions/drag/baron faster. 30 second reduction on flash oh wow you're going to crush games, game breaking shit right there. You don't need 3% LS/SV because with 21/9 you kill shit faster = taking less damage. MS increase is nice but it's not worth the trade off and what chasing occurs that 4.5% is going to make a difference? The only time I've seen a good player run MS quints on Elise is when they start blue side with red buff so they can go to the enemy red buff and gank them so it's a red buff vs blue buff scenario and you can do that without a MS quint or mastery because of having to go Buff>wraiths>buff. Why would you need MS to chase when you have rappel? But it's w/e please PM me with your findings after you've experimented with them because I recently started to play Elise a lot and would be interested in your results.

arb

Noobville17922 Posts

December 12 2013 11:10 GMT

#4144

in game with digiwombat
isnt he famous or something oo?

Amui

Canada10567 Posts

December 12 2013 11:15 GMT

#4145

Well a friend of mine just linked this on FB.

Faker's fed on riven, but impressive all the same.

Lord Tolkien

United States12084 Posts

December 12 2013 11:37 GMT

#4146

Win dominion game with 1 point left.

AWWW YEAH.

-Zoda-

France3578 Posts

December 12 2013 12:36 GMT

#4147

Also people seem to be forgetting about Yasuo's ult range. I looks so fucking huge... If you have someone to knockup ennemies you can engage/re-engage from miles away, they can't imagine...
Like stand at tower, wait for tresh to fling, profit. -_-
A bit comp specific for that but OP as hell errr

Louuster

Canada2869 Posts

December 12 2013 12:43 GMT

#4148

Michael Santana
‏@dignitasQtpie

5 minutes into scrim in europe and we dc, its like im getting the real experience :^)

dat euw server

Dandel Ion

Austria17960 Posts

December 12 2013 12:52 GMT

#4149

dunno why they even try, should just scrim on NA server.

Ping is about the same for the EU ppl anyways!

krndandaman

Mozambique16569 Posts

December 12 2013 13:16 GMT

#4150

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MCMilo

United States365 Posts

December 12 2013 13:45 GMT

#4151

The one problem I see is that you plan to go an aggressive item start and you're like Yeahhh aggressive!! But suddenly you try to shore up potential flaws and strengthen factors other than damage in this perceived aggressive mindset. As a doran's blade start Elise, you don't have to play "aggressively" the entire time with your 475 gold start. Sure you can get kills much faster, yeahhh move around the map, but the entire game isn't going to be dictated by your doran's blade and how your first or second kill attempt goes. That convoluted mastery set up with the 3% vamp/lifesteal is completely useless (and so is that 7 total defense) because that shit won't even matter after the 5 minute mark. 21 Offense simply provides better options for Elise at all stages in the game while still influencing the early game just as well.

For movespeed, just get Sorcerer's Shoes...

krndandaman

Mozambique16569 Posts

December 12 2013 14:01 GMT

#4152

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Steins;Gate

1422 Posts

December 12 2013 14:05 GMT

#4153

when's the new champ coming out? o:

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

December 12 2013 14:49 GMT

#4154

On December 12 2013 18:24 Amui wrote:

Show nested quote +

Over or under on 55% winrate after 1 week. Personally, I'm feeling the over, keeping in mind that this guy also designed thresh, darius zyra and one more who slips my mind atm.

Poll: Over or Under 55%

Over 55% (22)

81%

Under 55% (4)

15%

Completely underpowered (1)

4%

27 total votes

Your vote: Over or Under 55%

(Vote): Over 55%
(Vote): Under 55%
(Vote): Completely underpowered

I voted completely underpowered, but only because we really have no idea what the values are going to be. IMO, he will be completely OP, or UP based on tiny factors. Once again, a champion that will have wild swings in power level based on what patch it is, and tiny changes in the damage and CC duration on Q.

nafta

Bulgaria18893 Posts

December 12 2013 15:03 GMT

#4155

Yasuo will have at most 50% winrate pretty sure.Champs that requite actual thinking dont do well when they come out unless numbers are insanely broken and they dont seem to be.
Mayyyyyyybe he can do ok mid vs some weaker laners or very skillshot focused but he would get destroyed by most stuff easily.

killerdog

Denmark6522 Posts

December 12 2013 15:21 GMT

#4156

Just played against post patch gragas for the first time, is it actually possible to dodge low-mid range barrels anymore?

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

December 12 2013 15:27 GMT

#4157

Yasuo kit is strong, but too untuitive for early strength to be seen by community. (Similar to Lee Sin) I don't see him having outrageous winrates unless the numbers on his kit are egregiously out of balance..

Chemiczny84

Poland458 Posts

December 12 2013 15:34 GMT

#4158

On December 12 2013 18:24 Amui wrote:

Show nested quote +

Over or under on 55% winrate after 1 week. Personally, I'm feeling the over, keeping in mind that this guy also designed thresh, darius zyra and one more who slips my mind atm.

also zed huehue

Ghost-z

United States1291 Posts

December 12 2013 15:34 GMT

#4159

On December 12 2013 14:45 YouGotNothin wrote:
For those curious about what his wall blocks and doesn't block:

TLDW: it blocks pretty much everything you could imagine and more

@1:52 Gangplank says the best line ever to describe all of our feelings towards Yasuo's wind wall.

I think it would be balanced if they changed it so that it doesn't block ultimates.