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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
December 12 2013 05:04 GMT
#4101
On December 12 2013 13:59 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 13:49 cLutZ wrote:
So that Yasuo preview. He looks totally bizarre. They seem to have avoided one of my larger fears by making his Q into essentially an Auto-Attack. The worrying part of his kit is E, and the EQ (3rd proc). It seems like much too reliable of cc that is available much too often. Getting behind at all for most of the common mids looks like it would lead to an endless wave of all ins.


Pretty much. When he can dash melee->dash ranged->dash your face without repercussions at all(unless he misjudged and wants an out), it's a 6 second CD, stupid long range gap closer, without the downsides of say irelia Q. And his W is one of, if not the most broken non-ultimate spell in the game.


CertainlyT makes some damn interesting champs.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 05:08:31
December 12 2013 05:06 GMT
#4102
Yasuo can jungle. Think of it like Yi with built in CC and semi-invincibility if played right.

Doesn't help that he gets so much gold, and his free shield is way too good.
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
December 12 2013 05:08 GMT
#4103
On December 12 2013 14:06 ticklishmusic wrote:
Yasuo can jungle. Think of it like Yi with built CC and semi-invincibility if played right.


brb drooling

Is he as viable as Yi jungle or is there actually a chance of him seeing pro jungle play? I would suspect his item costs are too high for him to be played outside a solo lane.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 05:13:45
December 12 2013 05:13 GMT
#4104
On December 12 2013 14:04 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 13:59 Amui wrote:
On December 12 2013 13:49 cLutZ wrote:
So that Yasuo preview. He looks totally bizarre. They seem to have avoided one of my larger fears by making his Q into essentially an Auto-Attack. The worrying part of his kit is E, and the EQ (3rd proc). It seems like much too reliable of cc that is available much too often. Getting behind at all for most of the common mids looks like it would lead to an endless wave of all ins.


Pretty much. When he can dash melee->dash ranged->dash your face without repercussions at all(unless he misjudged and wants an out), it's a 6 second CD, stupid long range gap closer, without the downsides of say irelia Q. And his W is one of, if not the most broken non-ultimate spell in the game.


CertainlyT makes some damn interesting champs.


I knew that already, but a refresher is nice. Every single one of his champions has been hilariously overpowered upon release, including one of the few balance patch hotfixes. The whole time I've been playing, Zyra is the only one I can recall.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 05:16:47
December 12 2013 05:14 GMT
#4105
He's viable. You can play him as anything.

His E is essentially a FREE version of Irelia's Q for example. Passive + W means he can dive towers with impunity.
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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 05:18:40
December 12 2013 05:17 GMT
#4106
On December 12 2013 14:08 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 14:06 ticklishmusic wrote:
Yasuo can jungle. Think of it like Yi with built CC and semi-invincibility if played right.


brb drooling

Is he as viable as Yi jungle or is there actually a chance of him seeing pro jungle play? I would suspect his item costs are too high for him to be played outside a solo lane.


He's op because it's Liam O'briens voice. Jungle Yasuo here I come. While he actually seems hilariously broken it looks like you could do some crazy stuff if you mastered use of E, the passive stacking and the knockup's.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
December 12 2013 05:17 GMT
#4107
Wind Wall looks like the best teamfighting non-ultimate ability in the game by several orders of magnitude. Need further clarification about what counts as a projectile though.
I am the Town Medic.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 05:18:37
December 12 2013 05:18 GMT
#4108
On December 12 2013 14:14 ticklishmusic wrote:
He's viable. You can play him as anything.

His E is essentially a FREE version of Irelia's Q for example. Passive + W means he can dive towers with impunity.

W doesn't block towers.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
December 12 2013 05:19 GMT
#4109
On December 12 2013 14:17 Alzadar wrote:
Wind Wall looks like the best teamfighting non-ultimate ability in the game by several orders of magnitude. Need further clarification about what counts as a projectile though.


Watch the Champ Preview. All auto-attacks, skillshots, and ranged target abilities (it seems).
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 12 2013 05:21 GMT
#4110
On December 12 2013 13:59 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 13:49 cLutZ wrote:
So that Yasuo preview. He looks totally bizarre. They seem to have avoided one of my larger fears by making his Q into essentially an Auto-Attack. The worrying part of his kit is E, and the EQ (3rd proc). It seems like much too reliable of cc that is available much too often. Getting behind at all for most of the common mids looks like it would lead to an endless wave of all ins.


Pretty much. When he can dash melee->dash ranged->dash your face without repercussions at all(unless he misjudged and wants an out), it's a 6 second CD, stupid long range gap closer, without the downsides of say irelia Q. And his W is one of, if not the most broken non-ultimate spell in the game.


according to the wiki http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Yasuo the gapcloser basically has no cooldown. Its Q with the CD which gates (slightly) your ability to gain knockup power.

He seems like a more snowbally riven.
Freeeeeeedom
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 05:27:16
December 12 2013 05:23 GMT
#4111
Man, it's going to be really interesting to see this guy's power level when he hits live. And probably even more interesting to see if/how he's nerfed afterwards!

EDIT: Can we talk about how riot's been all 'we don't like passives that just give flat stats/item equivalents' but apparently giving multiplicative stats is ok?
:3
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 12 2013 05:30 GMT
#4112
elementz starting a new team with some pretty good players, better than him at least, but his AD is a huge fucking rager and the only guy i've ever lashed out at in league over voicechat and it wasn't even a serious game.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
December 12 2013 05:39 GMT
#4113
Generally speaking, isn't it usually the case where after the champ spotlight video is released the actual champ is released within the next day or so? So shouldn't Yasuo be hitting live servers soon-ish?
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
December 12 2013 05:43 GMT
#4114
Yeah, but they haven't announced downtime yet, probably next week.
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
December 12 2013 05:45 GMT
#4115
For those curious about what his wall blocks and doesn't block:



TLDW: it blocks pretty much everything you could imagine and more



I got nothin'...
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 12 2013 05:47 GMT
#4116
I might actually start playing regularly again for Yasuo...
It's your boy Guzma!
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
December 12 2013 05:52 GMT
#4117
WTF it blocks things like Whimsy?

I take away my qualifiers.

Wind Wall looks like the best teamfighting non-ultimate ability in the game by several orders of magnitude.
I am the Town Medic.
Tal
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United Kingdom1018 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 06:12:47
December 12 2013 06:03 GMT
#4118
On December 12 2013 14:52 Alzadar wrote:
WTF it blocks things like Whimsy?

I take away my qualifiers.

Wind Wall looks like the best teamfighting non-ultimate ability in the game by several orders of magnitude.


Yeah, it seems like even if you're not that good with it you will block crazy amounts of damage, and if you are good it will be game winning. Looks like it should either have a long cast time (so you can't use it like god's spell shield) or shorter duration.

EDIT: Or better yet let it be dissipated by enemy champs walking through it. Counterplay and everything.

Also why doesn't E have a higher cooldown?

I have to say though, he looks incredibly fun to play. I just hope they have got the numbers right.
It is what you read when you don't have to that determines what you will be when you can't help it.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
December 12 2013 06:07 GMT
#4119
--- Nuked ---
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 06:18:07
December 12 2013 06:17 GMT
#4120
On December 12 2013 14:18 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 14:14 ticklishmusic wrote:
He's viable. You can play him as anything.

His E is essentially a FREE version of Irelia's Q for example. Passive + W means he can dive towers with impunity.

W doesn't block towers.


I know, passive shield tanks towers, W means enemy champs can't hit you.

Well, the melee ones can but who cares? Gank the other lanes then gank them when you're fed.
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