EPT[Patch 3.14] PreSeason 4 General Discussion - Page 119
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On December 03 2013 04:13 wei2coolman wrote: if you just want your jungle safe, just use regular ward. pink much better for zoning out areas for objectives. no he's right if you ward the bush behind dragon/baron near your wraiths you basically detect any invades or ganks from behind and they are rare enough that it justifies putting a pink, and also they won't always walk into the brush and see the ward, definitely worth. the problem with pinking around objectives is that they are likely to be found and killed, while a normal ward can do the same thing but the advantage of having a pink (you can kill wards) is kinda offset by the fact that they'll know theres a ward there unless they assumed you scanned it. obviously the more people expect pinks in certain areas the weaker they are, so there will be kind of a weird meta here | ||
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SagaZ
France3460 Posts
also, as i've said in a previous post, if you can manage to ward between enemy towers without being seen, your pink is probably going to sit there for 20 minutes+ and scouting all incoming movement to the lane, no1 checks that little brush | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 03 2013 04:15 Slayer91 wrote: no he's right if you ward the bush behind dragon/baron near your wraiths you basically detect any invades or ganks from behind and they are rare enough that it justifies putting a pink, and also they won't always walk into the brush and see the ward, definitely worth. the problem with pinking around objectives is that they are likely to be found and killed, while a normal ward can do the same thing but the advantage of having a pink (you can kill wards) is kinda offset by the fact that they'll know theres a ward there unless they assumed you scanned it. obviously the more people expect pinks in certain areas the weaker they are, so there will be kind of a weird meta here I suppose so, I mostly use the pink as a makeshift sweeper, right before doing objectives. I much prefer just using my trinket for warding out my jangle. | ||
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YouGotNothin
United States907 Posts
On December 03 2013 04:16 SagaZ wrote: the point is pinks don't expire, you can use them to have permanent vision on "not so interesting" spots, that can become crucial if you scout a jungle invade. Particularly useful to see enemy mid laner roaming to side lanes trough your jungle also, as i've said in a previous post, if you can manage to ward between enemy towers without being seen, your pink is probably going to sit there for 20 minutes+ and scouting all incoming movement to the lane, no1 checks that little brush Ah I have not thought of this spot, that sounds nifty. Is it really possible to ward that spot without being seen though? I am now on a quest to find all of the best pink ward hiding spots. | ||
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
On December 03 2013 03:33 Requizen wrote: I don't really want to play League, I just want to get on and Mystery Gift skins to myself. Riot is evil. I am doing all I can not to all in my wallet on them. At least till snowdown, then all bets are off. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On December 03 2013 04:26 YouGotNothin wrote: Ah I have not thought of this spot, that sounds nifty. Is it really possible to ward that spot without being seen though? I am now on a quest to find all of the best pink ward hiding spots. Sight unseen, in my head you'd have to Solid Snake the minion wave and then back in the bush. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
On December 03 2013 04:29 Gahlo wrote: Sight unseen, in my head you'd have to Solid Snake the minion wave and then back in the bush. Pretend to pink tri as purple side, instead head up towards red, flash down over golem wall, ward. EZPZ | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On December 02 2013 21:52 nafta wrote: Nasus is easily the most broken as fuck top laner atm it really doesnt matter what you build on him as long as it has hp or resists.Dont even need damage. He is definitely strong as shit. That ult is the most overpowered feeling ability. Ult that gives him huge amounts of bonus health, AoE % based damage that gives you AD and as a result even more lifesteal. He is nearly unkillable with the ult up, especially early game (seriously, has a nasus ever died at level 6 when he ults? Even with a jungle gank?), and it lasts 15 seconds. That amount of damage paired with wither is crazy. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On December 03 2013 04:36 Nos- wrote: Pretend to pink tri as purple side, instead head up towards red, flash down over golem wall, ward. EZPZ Wait, are we talking the brush that connects two sections at the edge of the jungle or the one on the boundary side? | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On December 03 2013 03:33 Requizen wrote: I don't really want to play League, I just want to get on and Mystery Gift skins to myself. Riot is evil. What this man said. | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
Ugh. So evil. | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
Also, what masteries are people using lately? Last I was paying attention everyone was complaining about both offense and defense being OP while utility was crap (though honestly I think potion-biscuiteer mastery probably the bestest of all the early game ones). | ||
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YouGotNothin
United States907 Posts
On December 03 2013 04:40 Gahlo wrote: Wait, are we talking the brush that connects two sections at the edge of the jungle or the one on the boundary side? I think we were talking about the small strip of brush on both bot and top lanes that is on the outer boundary of the map between the 1st and 2nd towers of those lanes. They are frequently unchecked and now that I think about it even after the first tower is down (making this ward much easier to place) that ward location could still be handy for spotting people coming into lane to farm. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
On December 03 2013 04:51 phyvo wrote: I only play league at the moment to play vroom vroom never-die mid lulu. All other champs pale when beside her glory. Also, what masteries are people using lately? Last I was paying attention everyone was complaining about both offense and defense being OP while utility was crap (though honestly I think potion-biscuiteer mastery probably the bestest of all the early game ones). 21/9/0, 9/21/0, 21/0/9, 21/5/4, 9/0/21, and 0/21/9. All with variances on who it's on. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
You're not supposed to agree with me on things. This is crazy - Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria! | ||
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little fancy
Germany2504 Posts
In the meantime, I still see a lot of double side lane comps (no jungler as a result) that try to abuse the money item. Is it worth it still or not? | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I caught her after I blocked her stun and thus got the fear off before she could switch and Rappel. 2nd spellshield blocked a spider-Q. She fought in my trail. I got another fear off, too. Used my ult to help burst her when she was low. I won with 200 HP left. The amount of damage she does with absolutely 0 items and while being so fucking behind me (you can count: 2 levels, 4 kills, 2-3 assists, and 3 towers, I also had a bit more farm than her) is so retarded. Give her chainvest+guise instead of sunfire, or take the locket active away from me, and despite my lead, the way I caught her and outplayed her while she just stayed in spider form and right-clicked me while spamming Q and W, I'd have died instead. Why aren't people playing support Elise more anyway? The only nerf she received since we casually saw a level 7 Elise drop level 9 solo laners from 100 to 20-30 in a single burst combo on a casual basis in competitive games was losing her spider resistances, and that doesn't take anything away from said combo. Their Lucian was depressing too, tearing through 160 armour, the randuin's active and passive, my fear tether, the locket active, and forcing me out of the fight with just dash out when I engage -> aa-Q-aa-W-aa — all he had was Triforce and BFS that time, BT a bit later, but no LW in sight. Couldn't even zone him because in the end he'd walk away, ult while running back in once I had to flash out at 300 HP, and I'd have bought 4 seconds, 5 at most, while after that it was as good as a 4v5. He wasn't even fed at first. Then again Nocturne is particularly sad in teamfights. It's frustrating how poor he does late game—sure, if he gets fed enough that he can afford to build damage and still not die he's pretty strong, but with the gold changes he's way less likely to get (and maintain/snowball) a big enough lead to afford that. Went 21-9-0, ArPen/AD marks/quints. I def. felt a lack of sustain early on, and I wouldn't clear too fast past some point (despite the lizard spirit). I'd have been better off using either AD/lifesteal or AS/AD runes, I think. Considering how pathetic Vi is with a 0-21-9 setup in terms of clear speed I don't think Nocturne would do well with it either. Their Blitz with Talisman and 5 kills, 25 assists was richer than their 12 kills, 11 assists, 190 cs more Gragas. Assist streaks are fucking retarded. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Also, Lucian was pretty much made to kite out people like Nocturne. | ||
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