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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 02 2013 02:26 GMT
#2261
On December 02 2013 11:21 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 10:51 Slusher wrote:
Relic shild not universal. Buying even rank 1 locks you out of shurelya even if you sell it

Wait, buying a basic gold income (or final jungle) item locks you out from buying any of the other items, regardless of your inventory's state?

No idea on jungle but if you buy relic shield you are locked out of coin for the entire game even if you sell it
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 03:09:24
December 02 2013 02:39 GMT
#2262
On December 02 2013 03:47 AsnSensation wrote:
http://www.sporcle.com/games/dench018/league-of-legends-116-champions

I'm so bad at this, only got like 70 before I had to cheat.

97, 96 if you count asking how to spell Cassiopeia as cheating. I noticed the easiest way for me to do this was to string champions together by city state/region. As a result, places like Shadow Isles, smaller regions, and oddly Noxus had most of my missing ones.

+ Show Spoiler [missing list] +
Darius, Dr. Mundo, Draven, Elise, Fiddlesticks, Hecarim, Karma, Karthus, Nautilus, Nidalee, Nocturne, Orianna, Rammus, Ryze, Shaco, Sivir, Swain, Viktor, Zyra


e. I had a mental hurdle where I was sure I forgot a yordle. It really got to me.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 02:45:24
December 02 2013 02:44 GMT
#2263
On December 02 2013 11:26 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 11:21 Alaric wrote:
On December 02 2013 10:51 Slusher wrote:
Relic shild not universal. Buying even rank 1 locks you out of shurelya even if you sell it

Wait, buying a basic gold income (or final jungle) item locks you out from buying any of the other items, regardless of your inventory's state?

No idea on jungle but if you buy relic shield you are locked out of coin for the entire game even if you sell it

I once sold relic shield and got a jungler item.

You're only allowed one gp10 at a time I think. Anything else is a bug.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
December 02 2013 02:45 GMT
#2264
On December 02 2013 11:44 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 11:26 Slusher wrote:
On December 02 2013 11:21 Alaric wrote:
On December 02 2013 10:51 Slusher wrote:
Relic shild not universal. Buying even rank 1 locks you out of shurelya even if you sell it

Wait, buying a basic gold income (or final jungle) item locks you out from buying any of the other items, regardless of your inventory's state?

No idea on jungle but if you buy relic shield you are locked out of coin for the entire game even if you sell it

I once sold relic shield and got a jungler item.

You're only allowed one gp10 at a time I think.

+ avarice blade.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
December 02 2013 02:46 GMT
#2265
On December 02 2013 11:45 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 11:44 obesechicken13 wrote:
On December 02 2013 11:26 Slusher wrote:
On December 02 2013 11:21 Alaric wrote:
On December 02 2013 10:51 Slusher wrote:
Relic shild not universal. Buying even rank 1 locks you out of shurelya even if you sell it

Wait, buying a basic gold income (or final jungle) item locks you out from buying any of the other items, regardless of your inventory's state?

No idea on jungle but if you buy relic shield you are locked out of coin for the entire game even if you sell it

I once sold relic shield and got a jungler item.

You're only allowed one gp10 at a time I think.

+ avarice blade.

Huh... It specifically said "you are only allowed one gold generation item"

In game announcer lies!
+ Show Spoiler +
It lies
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
December 02 2013 02:47 GMT
#2266
On December 02 2013 11:46 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 11:45 Gahlo wrote:
On December 02 2013 11:44 obesechicken13 wrote:
On December 02 2013 11:26 Slusher wrote:
On December 02 2013 11:21 Alaric wrote:
On December 02 2013 10:51 Slusher wrote:
Relic shild not universal. Buying even rank 1 locks you out of shurelya even if you sell it

Wait, buying a basic gold income (or final jungle) item locks you out from buying any of the other items, regardless of your inventory's state?

No idea on jungle but if you buy relic shield you are locked out of coin for the entire game even if you sell it

I once sold relic shield and got a jungler item.

You're only allowed one gp10 at a time I think.

+ avarice blade.

Huh... It specifically said "you are only allowed one gold generation item"

In game announcer lies!
+ Show Spoiler +
It lies

Avarice Blade is like magic cards. The rules are the rules until something says otherwise.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
December 02 2013 02:57 GMT
#2267
On December 02 2013 11:39 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 03:47 AsnSensation wrote:
http://www.sporcle.com/games/dench018/league-of-legends-116-champions

I'm so bad at this, only got like 70 before I had to cheat.

97, 96 if you count asking how to spell Cassiopeia as cheating. I noticed the easiest way for me to do this was to string champions together by city state/region. As a result, places like Zaun, Shadow Isles, smaller regions, and oddly Noxus had my mising ones.

Same: I grouped champions by lore relations/city-states/regions, which meant champions like fucking Nidalee, Shaco, and Aatrox (lol) took me near the time limit to figure out. Also Gragas, oddly enough. <_<
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
December 02 2013 03:13 GMT
#2268
Fuck that quizz

+ Show Spoiler [mathies plz] +
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Administrator@TL_Zess
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 03:16:18
December 02 2013 03:16 GMT
#2269
I thought Victribell 3 times while trying to think Viktor, seeing as my first involvement with this site was a first 151pkmn quiz.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 02 2013 03:16 GMT
#2270
On December 02 2013 11:44 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 11:26 Slusher wrote:
On December 02 2013 11:21 Alaric wrote:
On December 02 2013 10:51 Slusher wrote:
Relic shild not universal. Buying even rank 1 locks you out of shurelya even if you sell it

Wait, buying a basic gold income (or final jungle) item locks you out from buying any of the other items, regardless of your inventory's state?

No idea on jungle but if you buy relic shield you are locked out of coin for the entire game even if you sell it

I once sold relic shield and got a jungler item.

You're only allowed one gp10 at a time I think. Anything else is a bug.


yea it's for sure working now i just tried it, I rember it being one of the first things I tried on patch day to no avail.
Carrilord has arrived.
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
December 02 2013 04:01 GMT
#2271
Oh I was about to come and say its curious how I accidently grouped champions by lore in my mind but it seems so did everyone else. :S Riot lore is popular on team liquid it seems.
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
December 02 2013 04:02 GMT
#2272
Just did an all for one Leona vs Fiora. Lulz were had as sunfire popped sunlight.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 02 2013 04:08 GMT
#2273
On December 02 2013 12:16 Gahlo wrote:
I thought Victribell 3 times while trying to think Viktor, seeing as my first involvement with this site was a first 151pkmn quiz.


ME TOO! for the pokemon thing, not necessarily the viktor thing

i was so proud when i completed the 151
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Pantagruel
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1427 Posts
December 02 2013 04:16 GMT
#2274
I did champs by lane/role mostly. Seems like the most obvious way to do it.

As for support, I really like the changes. I see no detriment to having a proper amount of gold to spend on gear so you are more of a threat or more useful in a fight. The ward limits were hard to get used to, largely because it relies on other people to actually adjust and help carry the burden. This will take time for around silver ELO and admittedly may never happen in low bronze (but I suspect even supports don't ward much at those ratings). The only change that irks me a bit is pink wards being hot garbage now. Mostly because of evelynn but still. I end up just pinking my own jungle mostly as some have suggested on here because it is very useful against counter jungling and doesn't get destroyed so easily.
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
December 02 2013 05:12 GMT
#2275
Does mystery skin only give you skins of champions you own?
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 02 2013 05:13 GMT
#2276
On December 02 2013 14:12 nosliw wrote:
Does mystery skin only give you skins of champions you own?


Yes, it even says that in their write up.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 05:30:43
December 02 2013 05:27 GMT
#2277
On December 02 2013 11:47 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 11:46 obesechicken13 wrote:
On December 02 2013 11:45 Gahlo wrote:
On December 02 2013 11:44 obesechicken13 wrote:
On December 02 2013 11:26 Slusher wrote:
On December 02 2013 11:21 Alaric wrote:
On December 02 2013 10:51 Slusher wrote:
Relic shild not universal. Buying even rank 1 locks you out of shurelya even if you sell it

Wait, buying a basic gold income (or final jungle) item locks you out from buying any of the other items, regardless of your inventory's state?

No idea on jungle but if you buy relic shield you are locked out of coin for the entire game even if you sell it

I once sold relic shield and got a jungler item.

You're only allowed one gp10 at a time I think.

+ avarice blade.

Huh... It specifically said "you are only allowed one gold generation item"

In game announcer lies!
+ Show Spoiler +
It lies

Avarice Blade is like magic cards. The rules are the rules until something says otherwise.


That's what I don't like about this patch. It totally flies in the face of LoL design.

Could you imagine riot's response to having their game compared to Magic in terms of relationships between several things?

Riot had always been strong at keeping things simple and effective. This patch is confusing, convoluted, and forced.

Trinkets are confusing. No one understand or uses them effectively. No one knows how gold item's interact with one another. Player choices feel like they aren't actually choices anymore, instead they feel like guidelines you just follow because it's coded so that that method stronger.

It reminds me of when blizz made the decision to make talent trees all only good for one thing; rogues for example could pve and pvp efficiently with assassination or combat with splashing of subtlety. Then they made it so you could only ever pvp with assassination, and only ever pvp with combat.

kind of like how a jungle could have started cloth, boots, Doran, wards, even Oracle's in side occasions.Now you just start machete and get a jungle item because they are just coded optimal. Or how a support could get GP10s or instead opt for Dorans items and just win lanes harder etc, but now just get them GP10s because that is what is coded as the best.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 02 2013 05:41 GMT
#2278
Honestly, I dont care if there is an optimal start for everyone. The thing is, it was much better when that optimal start was Boots/3Pots. The Dorans starts and Machete S3 (or the mass pots starts when those were allowed), and on top of that the gold generation starts in S4 are much worse, particularly for junglers. Optimal starts, particualrly optimal starts that put every character at every position in the same place are good for the game because they reduce the power of lvl 1 fog of war (which is the worst part of the game competitively).

If there is an optimal path after the start, that can be a problem, though. Because it eliminates powercurves.
Freeeeeeedom
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 06:17:21
December 02 2013 05:56 GMT
#2279
I hate the jungler items. Wish they removed the "butcher" effect from the game.

I don't care if mids occasionally stole camps, having to build items because they let you kill creeps faster is worse.

Most annoying thing ever is starting Ravenous Hydra on a jungler for ten games, doing X damage, then noticing how smooth elder lizard is for letting you sustain the jungle and clear it, and doing .8X damage to champions.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
December 02 2013 06:06 GMT
#2280
On December 02 2013 14:56 obesechicken13 wrote:
I hate the jungler items. Wish they removed the "butcher" effect from the game.

I don't care if mids occasionally stole camps, having to build items because they let you kill creeps faster.

Most annoying thing ever is starting Ravenous Hydra on a jungler for ten games, doing X damage, then noticing how smooth elder lizard is for letting you sustain the jungle and clear it, and doing .8X damage to champions.


I used to like the jungler items when they were slot inefficient cost efficient items.

But Riot got upset cuz laners bought them too and that ruined their design philosophy or something.

Same with Locket/Aegis. As a jungler I could #4/5 and have Golem+Locket+Aegis late game and be pretty tanky anyway despite not having eons of gold. Instead, now I just forced to have less gold and has slot inefficient cost inneficeint items because riot says so. RAWR!
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