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Morzas
Profile Joined August 2005
United States387 Posts
December 02 2013 00:20 GMT
#2241
Is there any merit to this or is it just a gimmick?
What has four wheels and flies? Stephen Hawking on LSD!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 02 2013 00:31 GMT
#2242
On December 02 2013 09:20 Morzas wrote:
Is there any merit to this or is it just a gimmick?

It's presented in a way that makes it worth checking out. More than I can say for some suggestions.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 02 2013 00:37 GMT
#2243
Marquis Vlad
Kennen MD
Subterranean Nautilus


....riot pls
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 02 2013 00:48 GMT
#2244
On December 02 2013 09:37 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Marquis Vlad
Kennen MD
Subterranean Nautilus


....riot pls

Lucky... you got the SCV skin.
ExoFun
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2041 Posts
December 02 2013 00:49 GMT
#2245
got 2x yorick skin...
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
December 02 2013 00:52 GMT
#2246
On December 02 2013 07:39 Fildun wrote:
Am I the only one here who actually thinks that playing support with no items and just oracles + sightstone was more fun? I miss oracles + ward wars already
Besides that I have to say that it feels good to oneshot an ADC as Taric while you lose only 10% of your life. Although it feels less fun when a random Nocturne ults in to steal the kill.


I agree with you a lot.

I dunno, I can't fathom playing support now.

Just feels wrong.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 02 2013 01:06 GMT
#2247
On December 02 2013 09:49 ExoFun wrote:
got 2x yorick skin...

Gotta live up to actually owning Yorick.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 02 2013 01:07 GMT
#2248
On December 02 2013 09:20 Morzas wrote:
Is there any merit to this or is it just a gimmick?

WW still blows, just play something else.
liftlift > tsm
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 01:17:14
December 02 2013 01:14 GMT
#2249
On December 02 2013 10:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 09:20 Morzas wrote:
Is there any merit to this or is it just a gimmick?

WW still blows, just play something else.

Lol

Ignoring the personal biases joke, blue gp5 if it becomes popular and considered OP will just get hard nerfed. You can apply the thing with Runaan's hurricane as well. But 8 gold per hit isn't that much so you're basically getting it as a gp10 item and for the active.

Most junglers aren't ap based and the ones that are, generally want the ap jungle item first.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
December 02 2013 01:29 GMT
#2250
Soraka feels so good right now!

Her laning feels much stronger now and with the silence amazing AA and the armor buff to end all armor she feels safe vs taric's shred and burst.

shurelya's + sightstone+ cooldown boots + 5 from masteries and hit 40% before 20 minutes almost every game. Teamfighting become so much more fun.

I tend to follow it with rylais and then rabadon's/zhonya followed by the other one. Since you how so much heal you dont have to base all that often and sometimes run into mana issues so I want to add a tear. But I am not sure when to so it since at the start the gp5 (coin upgrade + ss) are the priority and from there hitting the cdr cap sooner feels most effective.

With most of the the cooldown items all giving 20% I am starting to think that taking no cdr in masteries might be better for the majority of supports since it allows you to get shurelya's/face + athene/morello/banner/FH/SV and then better boots.
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
December 02 2013 01:43 GMT
#2251
So what's the recommended starting items for supports now?

Gold income + 2 wards?
Forever Young
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
December 02 2013 01:45 GMT
#2252
On December 02 2013 10:43 sung_moon wrote:
So what's the recommended starting items for supports now?

Gold income + 2 wards?


Usually relic shield + pots/wards, depending upon what rank you are. Probably relic + pots for sub-plat, and a mix of pots and wards for plat and up, depending upon enemy team comp.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 02 2013 01:51 GMT
#2253
Relic shild not universal. Buying even rank 1 locks you out of shurelya even if you sell it
Carrilord has arrived.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
December 02 2013 01:55 GMT
#2254
On December 02 2013 10:43 sung_moon wrote:
So what's the recommended starting items for supports now?

Gold income + 2 wards?

Riot strongly recommends the scyring orb.

+ Show Spoiler +
I really feel the cooldown needs to be shorter before anyone even thinks of buying it. Is there anyone that wants this trinket more than the other two?
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
December 02 2013 01:58 GMT
#2255
On December 02 2013 10:55 layabout wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 10:43 sung_moon wrote:
So what's the recommended starting items for supports now?

Gold income + 2 wards?

Riot strongly recommends the scyring orb.

+ Show Spoiler +
I really feel the cooldown needs to be shorter before anyone even thinks of buying it. Is there anyone that wants this trinket more than the other two?

They need to change pink wards before anybody buys that's piece of butt trinket.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 02 2013 02:03 GMT
#2256
Dammnit, all these WCG VODS are terrible.
Freeeeeeedom
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 02 2013 02:07 GMT
#2257
On December 02 2013 09:01 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2013 07:24 Ryuu314 wrote:
On December 02 2013 07:23 Cr4zyH0r5e wrote:
@ryu
how would you get more vision if everyone gets to 6 items almost immediately after laning phase. You get 1-2 wards per player and you have decent map contorl until midgame, then it the map slowly goes dark.

I guess fnatic is very happy about this?

1 ward per non-support + 3 wards for support. That's 7 wards - be honest, pre-3.14 how often as support did you have over 7 wards on the map at a time?

A lot?

I usually had 5-6 wards on my own. Ruby SS is 3, plus I'd get 4-5 more.

The other thing that makes vision control riskier is that support can now be a credible threat, meaning that if you bump into a support you could get murdered when trying to ward, or conversely, if you die it could mean much more.

I'm talking about wards out on the map at once. There's literally nothing stopping you from still having 1~2 stacks of wards in your inventory on top of sightstone.

Vision control is definitely harder and that's a good thing. Pre-3.14 it was pretty dumb. There was literally 0 thought behind 99% of ward placements outside of the obvious. Granted, loss of oracles and pink wards being super shitty is a big issue, but I don't think pre-3.14 vision was necessarily better.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-02 02:16:31
December 02 2013 02:10 GMT
#2258
Soraka feela better cuz her E is a fucking lazer. It feels so satisfying to use.

These Cursemas sweepstakes promo pics are too fucking hilarious.
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 02 2013 02:21 GMT
#2259
On December 02 2013 10:51 Slusher wrote:
Relic shild not universal. Buying even rank 1 locks you out of shurelya even if you sell it

Wait, buying a basic gold income (or final jungle) item locks you out from buying any of the other items, regardless of your inventory's state?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
layabout
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom2600 Posts
December 02 2013 02:25 GMT
#2260
Holy crap there is an undo button!
Be the Best You Can Be ! Play MAFIA II http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/ II Dragonsound Best Band
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