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On October 25 2013 03:42 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2013 03:38 wei2coolman wrote:
Range indicator on auto attack command is soooooooooooo nice when playing adcs. Just keep in mind that AA range is different from spell range (former is base to base, latter is center of champ to center of champ). On the vision changes: My mind currently cannot process it. give me a day or two. As an aside, the way they're implementing ward limits seems somewhat more reasonable than my preliminary musings of limiting ward buying. No idea what to think of the vision trinkets.
Range indicators on ADC's have easily increased my last hitting abilities, before I'd sometimes be a smidgen too far away, so when I go to auto attack, there's a slight walk animation which makes me miss the last hit sometimes. Now with range indicators I'll always know if I'm instantly in range or not.
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More fakeness evidence:
3 - no mana costs listed for abilities - both the AIR client and the in-game client has these, so there's no reason for these to be missing, unless he's a manaless champ.
4 - the AIR client tooltips generally don't give any damage numbers, while the in-game client has all numbers. The leak has a mix of both (some damage numbers while others are vague) which makes me think that someone made them up and it didn't come from either the AIR client or the in-game client.
5 - E has a weird conflict with his passive. "illusions will copy any spell used by him" and "E absorbs all illusions" don't directly work together.
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On October 25 2013 03:39 Alaric wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2013 03:35 Ryuu314 wrote:
If the leak is true I'm guessing the images probably don't move. Sounds pretty neat as a concept. I like how the ult drains AP in contrast to Nasus's AD drain. Sounds like the champ will probably be played as a support tho since no real steroids outside of his ulti but instead has a fuckton of utility. The AP drain is the thing that made me call fake with the 2s knock-up. It's bland and serves no purpose at all against teams too AD-oriented (or relying on champs like Amumu for magic damage, don't build much AP). It's an obvious rip-off from Nasus and Renekton to try and make it sound legit as a Shurima champion. Nasus doesn't drain AD, he gains some based on the damage he deals.
The description for Nasus ult used to say "drain AD" even though it doesn't actually drain any AD.
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On October 25 2013 03:24 Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2013 03:21 Alaric wrote:
Plus how would you control the illusions, how would they move? 1a2a3a4a gogo! Edit: From the reddit post: "Currently the sweeper trinket does not affect stealthed champions. SO." Edit 2: "The basic red trinket does not currently reveal champions. There is an option later to improve this functionality but it is not available at level 1."
I'm rather ok with that. It would have legit murderized Akali, Twitch, and a few others.
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On October 25 2013 03:46 thenexusp wrote:
More fakeness evidence:
3 - no mana costs listed for abilities - both the AIR client and the in-game client has these, so there's no reason for these to be missing, unless he's a manaless champ.
4 - the AIR client tooltips generally don't give any damage numbers, while the in-game client has all numbers. The leak has a mix of both (some damage numbers while others are vague) which makes me think that someone made them up and it didn't come from either the AIR client or the in-game client.
5 - E has a weird conflict with his passive. "illusions will copy any spell used by him" and "E absorbs all illusions" don't directly work together.
Ofc he's manaless huehuehue
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Isn't this guy just a repeat of another "fake" "released" champion? I remember a sand mage being "leaked" like 8 months ago, and also like 8 months before that.
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Well the concept was confirmed. Riot said they had plans for a sand mage related to Nasus/Renekton but this was ages ago.
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So the sweeper disables wards' vision in addition to revealing them, so a laner could potentially disable the ward without killing it and let the jungler sneak by. Interesting.
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TIL nasus ulti does more than just a sunfire and give hp
The other day I learned Merc scim active doesn't give movespeed to ranged characters.
Before that I learned triforce gives bonus damage based on your champion's base ad.
Way before that, I learned shiv can crit.
So many more things I wanna add but can't remember that many WTF IDIDN'T KNOW THAT moments. Kinda sad that I didn't know a lot of these things after 3k+ games lol.
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A guy on reddit points out a very real downside of the new vision system
Wells I guess we can't arrange 50 wards into a giant penis anymore 
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On October 25 2013 04:17 thenexusp wrote:A guy on reddit points out a very real downside of the new vision system
just need teamwork
team effort penises
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On October 25 2013 04:21 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2013 04:17 thenexusp wrote:A guy on reddit points out a very real downside of the new vision system Wells I guess we can't arrange 50 wards into a giant penis anymore just need teamwork team effort penises
Not only that, if you do it with pinks, the other team can see it in all it's glory too!
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On October 25 2013 04:14 wussleeQ wrote:
TIL nasus ulti does more than just a sunfire and give hp
The other day I learned Merc scim active doesn't give movespeed to ranged characters.
Before that I learned triforce gives bonus damage based on your champion's base ad.
Way before that, I learned shiv can crit.
So many more things I wanna add but can't remember that many WTF IDIDN'T KNOW THAT moments. Kinda sad that I didn't know a lot of these things after 3k+ games lol.
It also steals from Baron. You can get a lot of AD from Baron around the time your ult ends.
So if Baron has 10k life, you get 240*15s*.0675=230 bonus AD.
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On October 25 2013 04:23 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2013 02:34 Slayer91 wrote:On October 25 2013 02:29 JimmiC wrote:On October 25 2013 02:14 Slayer91 wrote:On October 25 2013 02:09 JimmiC wrote:On October 25 2013 02:02 Slayer91 wrote:
you are talking about knowledge relevant for game design and knowledge relevant to playing the game
they are in different categories
you guys seem to want to argue you can be bad and still understand the game but you cant design the game if you are silver
i think its the opposite
game design and game play are a different set of skills
people who designed bw might have been good designers but they were terrible at bw
if someone is bad then they dont understand the game
however it doesnt mean they dont understand a good way to design the game and set up good gameplay WHAT???????????????????????????????? Thats exactly my point. And thats why yango was a good example. Because he's not diamond but has great understanding. And therefore why morello being silver has no impact on him being able to balance and so on. If you agree with this stop disagreement. That's why your arguements don't make sense to me because they are saying the samething I am so I couldn't figure out how they were proving what I thought was your point, LOL Basically you are 100% agreeing with me. You apparently just didn't understand my point or Ketara's, the irony is in your second post you said I don't understand you in a condesending way, which though some one true, it funny because you clearly missed my point entirely. So lets move on. you arent differentiating between understanding the game and understanding game design. If someone suggests a champion of a strategy and he's a gold player you can probably pick out things which he doesnt get right because he doesnt understand the game very well the same person could argue for why you should change the jungle this way or that to promote play and have a much better esitimation (but again you can get things wrong from getting the wrong conclusions from your own experience) the only reason i said you and ketera didnt understand was because you kept saying im agreeing with you and i am onsome points (the argument that morello sucks because he's silver) but not all Um I never made the point you are saying I did and are argueing against. I think maybe you assumed it or something but ummm I don't know where you got it. I did make the point you are agreeing with in fact that was my only point on this subject. I was strickly talking about game design and Morello. The point you think I am making a basically agree with. However if some thing works in gold by a gold level player it may not work in diamound because the opponets are better and might be better at stopping it. However the person using it might also use it better so with out actual trial I don't think it's a given. Same can be said for bring strats/ builds down from diamound to silver. But again that had 0 to do with my point. You throwing it in there really confused it. thing is there are multiple people i was responding and if you tend to reference their posts and agree with them (even if olny on some points) then you have to be aware of what they said cause I tend to blanket responses. I referenced one post. And specifically one point from that post " What league is Yango I wonder? You guys all give Yango a ton of respect for game knowledge (not that he doesn't deserve it) but I wonder if he's Diamond league." And my comment after has nothing to do with your point. It's a pretty terrible system you have of "blanketing your response" because you, as prooven here get in to arguments with people about things you agree with. Now to quote you "the only reason i said you and ketera didnt understand was because you kept saying im agreeing with you and i am onsome points (the argument that morello sucks because he's silver) but not all" Yes that was all my points. What I find interesting about you. Is instead of saying something simple like "oops thought u meant that" You first blaimed me for not understanding you and now your blaiming me for you not understanding me. Take some responsibility.The fact that you like to paint a bunch of people with the same brush is your problem not mine, and quite frankly will be a problem in more important places in your life then TL message boards. if thats just how you work. Maybe listen to what people say and treat them as individuals, might keep you out of some arguements or at least have you argueing the right things. Two people can agree on some things and not on all things, there is no reasonable reason to assume otherwise, and then there is esspecially no reason to be condensending to them when "they dont get your point" Because your point isn't a point because you never understood them, just made assumptions. Assumptions are the mother of all fuckups bro.
maybe im just evil.
i didnt make that post about yango's league. I thought i remembered you quoting my post so i figured you disagreed with me about something. maybe im wrong tho
have to delve back a few pages
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Jimmic plz. Yango doesn't even play the game.
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Yango is diamond in my eyes. *swoon*
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Anyone who's played with Yango knows he's a fucking shitter.
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On October 25 2013 04:23 Amui wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2013 04:21 Slayer91 wrote:On October 25 2013 04:17 thenexusp wrote:A guy on reddit points out a very real downside of the new vision system Wells I guess we can't arrange 50 wards into a giant penis anymore just need teamwork team effort penises Not only that, if you do it with pinks, the other team can see it in all it's glory too!
Good luck getting anything that remotely resembles a penis using only 5 wards.
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On October 25 2013 04:32 thenexusp wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2013 04:23 Amui wrote:On October 25 2013 04:21 Slayer91 wrote:On October 25 2013 04:17 thenexusp wrote:A guy on reddit points out a very real downside of the new vision system Wells I guess we can't arrange 50 wards into a giant penis anymore just need teamwork team effort penises Not only that, if you do it with pinks, the other team can see it in all it's glory too! Good luck getting anything that remotely resembles a penis using only 5 wards.
Stand in fountain. Buy new wards as you plant them.
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