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On October 25 2013 05:08 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2013 05:06 AsmodeusXI wrote:On October 25 2013 05:02 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
What is the Buddha, but a pile of poop
What is the Requizen, but a pile of poop What is the sound of one TL user shitposting? With all the vagueness surrounding a potential new Champion, are we thinking it'll be the last for the year? If so, only 8 this year in compared to 19 last year. Certainly not complaining seeing as this time last year everyone was all like "HOLY CRAP RIOT SLOW DOWN" I really like the slow down on patches.
I concur. I felt like the once-per-two-week schedule was really annoying. There were a lot more "knee-jerk" nerfs and buffs, I think, than things progressing as people learned them.
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On October 25 2013 05:09 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2013 05:08 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 25 2013 05:06 AsmodeusXI wrote:On October 25 2013 05:02 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
What is the Buddha, but a pile of poop
What is the Requizen, but a pile of poop What is the sound of one TL user shitposting? With all the vagueness surrounding a potential new Champion, are we thinking it'll be the last for the year? If so, only 8 this year in compared to 19 last year. Certainly not complaining seeing as this time last year everyone was all like "HOLY CRAP RIOT SLOW DOWN" I really like the slow down on patches. I concur. I felt like the once-per-two-week schedule was really annoying. There were a lot more "knee-jerk" nerfs and buffs, I think, than things progressing as people learned them.
Imagine if they had "dealt" with the assassin meta a month after it got popular. I don't think Lissandra's true strengths would have really been discovered.
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Pink wards being visible is a pretty sweet change I never thought of. The current system just with the pink change would be awesome. Still optimistic about the rest of the changes working out though. Trinkets sound dumb but I miss CV so badly I don't even care. Let me show off my leet CV skills and save my top laner repeatedly like the old days. I'm worried it'll mean no more brush jukes though if anyone can CV a whole teamfight at will.
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On October 25 2013 04:55 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2013 04:50 wei2coolman wrote:On October 25 2013 04:46 CreationSoul wrote:
As a support main, I actually like the new vision system, at least in theory. Now you can buy all the great expensive "support" items Riot intended for you, with all those expensively useless regen stats, and all the AP (with your terrible AP ratios!) Items are being reworked, but you're exaggerating how expensive they are.
They are very expensive without farm. Sure, with sololaner farm it's considered quite cheap, but when the only coins in your coffer is from passive gp10 (barring games when your team is snowballing) they are expenaive items, especially since the stats that come with the items blow. Just imagine how good shurelyas would be if it was a straight up upgrade from kindlegem without having to get like 800 gold of regen stats with it.
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If they go through with the changes to pink wards being visible Evelynn is going to be freaking batshit OP when this rolls out. I mean seriously, pink wards being visible just sounds so stupid as an Evelynn player.
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On October 25 2013 05:08 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2013 05:06 AsmodeusXI wrote:On October 25 2013 05:02 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
What is the Buddha, but a pile of poop
What is the Requizen, but a pile of poop What is the sound of one TL user shitposting? With all the vagueness surrounding a potential new Champion, are we thinking it'll be the last for the year? If so, only 8 this year in compared to 19 last year. Certainly not complaining seeing as this time last year everyone was all like "HOLY CRAP RIOT SLOW DOWN" I really like the slow down on patches.
For sure. It's definitely interesting to see the change.
Also, for some reason, I kinda expected two more Champs this year, but suddenly it's basically November. O_O
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The return of mid evelynn since you can't pink the midlane anymore? I would like that.
As for jungle Eve, it's good that you won't sit on a pink waiting for a gank anymore. But as long as the pink is in a brush, you won't know it's there before you're on top of it
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On October 25 2013 05:14 Fildun wrote:
If they go through with the changes to pink wards being visible Evelynn is going to be freaking batshit OP when this rolls out. I mean seriously, pink wards being visible just sounds so stupid as an Evelynn player.
On October 25 2013 05:19 Anakko wrote:
The return of mid evelynn since you can't pink the midlane anymore? I would like that.
As for jungle Eve, it's good that you won't sit on a pink waiting for a gank anymore. But as long as the pink is in a brush, you won't know it's there before you're on top of it
There's a special place in hell reserved for you two.
to actually add content to my post...
Will vision wards be priced the same as Stealth wards now? Playing against eve will suck ass because they can just sweep and rid of any pinks with very little issue. But at least it will be slightly (?) less financially burdening to keep vision up I guess.
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On October 25 2013 05:12 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2013 04:55 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 25 2013 04:50 wei2coolman wrote:On October 25 2013 04:46 CreationSoul wrote:
As a support main, I actually like the new vision system, at least in theory. Now you can buy all the great expensive "support" items Riot intended for you, with all those expensively useless regen stats, and all the AP (with your terrible AP ratios!) Items are being reworked, but you're exaggerating how expensive they are. They are very expensive without farm. Sure, with sololaner farm it's considered quite cheap, but when the only coins in your coffer is from passive gp10 (barring games when your team is snowballing) they are expenaive items, especially since the stats that come with the items blow. Just imagine how good shurelyas would be if it was a straight up upgrade from kindlegem without having to get like 800 gold of regen stats with it.
I usually end up with full items I support by the time games hit 35-40 minutes playing Janna and Nami. granted I do that by loading up on GP 10 and buying less wards early,and I wouldn't recommend it in organized play, but its perfectly viable in SQ on a select number of Champions.
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On October 25 2013 05:20 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2013 05:14 Fildun wrote:
If they go through with the changes to pink wards being visible Evelynn is going to be freaking batshit OP when this rolls out. I mean seriously, pink wards being visible just sounds so stupid as an Evelynn player. Show nested quote +On October 25 2013 05:19 Anakko wrote:
The return of mid evelynn since you can't pink the midlane anymore? I would like that.
As for jungle Eve, it's good that you won't sit on a pink waiting for a gank anymore. But as long as the pink is in a brush, you won't know it's there before you're on top of it There's a special place in hell reserved for you two. to actually add content to my post... Will vision wards be priced the same as Stealth wards now? Playing against eve will suck ass because they can just sweep and rid of any pinks with very little issue. But at least it will be slightly (?) less financially burdening to keep vision up I guess.
You've said that before about us. More originality plz.
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On October 25 2013 05:06 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2013 05:02 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
What is the Buddha, but a pile of poop
What is the Requizen, but a pile of poop What is the sound of one TL user shitposting? With all the vagueness surrounding a potential new Champion, are we thinking it'll be the last for the year? If so, only 8 this year in compared to 19 last year.
Thank God.
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On October 25 2013 05:26 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2013 05:12 wei2coolman wrote:On October 25 2013 04:55 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 25 2013 04:50 wei2coolman wrote:On October 25 2013 04:46 CreationSoul wrote:
As a support main, I actually like the new vision system, at least in theory. Now you can buy all the great expensive "support" items Riot intended for you, with all those expensively useless regen stats, and all the AP (with your terrible AP ratios!) Items are being reworked, but you're exaggerating how expensive they are. They are very expensive without farm. Sure, with sololaner farm it's considered quite cheap, but when the only coins in your coffer is from passive gp10 (barring games when your team is snowballing) they are expenaive items, especially since the stats that come with the items blow. Just imagine how good shurelyas would be if it was a straight up upgrade from kindlegem without having to get like 800 gold of regen stats with it. I usually end up with full items I support by the time games hit 35-40 minutes playing Janna and Nami. granted I do that by loading up on GP 10 and buying less wards early,and I wouldn't recommend it in organized play, but its perfectly viable in SQ on a select number of Champions.
Riot should be balancing for top play, not scrub league.
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On October 25 2013 05:28 Fildun wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2013 05:20 jcarlsoniv wrote:On October 25 2013 05:14 Fildun wrote:
If they go through with the changes to pink wards being visible Evelynn is going to be freaking batshit OP when this rolls out. I mean seriously, pink wards being visible just sounds so stupid as an Evelynn player. On October 25 2013 05:19 Anakko wrote:
The return of mid evelynn since you can't pink the midlane anymore? I would like that.
As for jungle Eve, it's good that you won't sit on a pink waiting for a gank anymore. But as long as the pink is in a brush, you won't know it's there before you're on top of it There's a special place in hell reserved for you two. to actually add content to my post... Will vision wards be priced the same as Stealth wards now? Playing against eve will suck ass because they can just sweep and rid of any pinks with very little issue. But at least it will be slightly (?) less financially burdening to keep vision up I guess. You've said that before about us. More originality plz.
There is no way to explain with words how much I hate eve, so I must do so with redundancy.
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On October 25 2013 05:31 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2013 05:26 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 25 2013 05:12 wei2coolman wrote:On October 25 2013 04:55 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 25 2013 04:50 wei2coolman wrote:On October 25 2013 04:46 CreationSoul wrote:
As a support main, I actually like the new vision system, at least in theory. Now you can buy all the great expensive "support" items Riot intended for you, with all those expensively useless regen stats, and all the AP (with your terrible AP ratios!) Items are being reworked, but you're exaggerating how expensive they are. They are very expensive without farm. Sure, with sololaner farm it's considered quite cheap, but when the only coins in your coffer is from passive gp10 (barring games when your team is snowballing) they are expenaive items, especially since the stats that come with the items blow. Just imagine how good shurelyas would be if it was a straight up upgrade from kindlegem without having to get like 800 gold of regen stats with it. I usually end up with full items I support by the time games hit 35-40 minutes playing Janna and Nami. granted I do that by loading up on GP 10 and buying less wards early,and I wouldn't recommend it in organized play, but its perfectly viable in SQ on a select number of Champions. Riot should be balancing for top play, not scrub league.
Riot fundamentally disagrees. Honestly they do a decent job of doing both, it just happens to go against a lot of TL ideals of balance.
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On October 25 2013 05:06 AsmodeusXI wrote:
With all the vagueness surrounding a potential new Champion, are we thinking it'll be the last for the year? If so, only 8 this year in compared to 19 last year.
To me, that seems like how it should be, like a champ every 4-6 weeks, as it gives the community enough time to experience the new one and determine if it's OP/UP and let Riot rebalance it.
I suspect we actually had a fair number of patches since s3 started, mainly to balance the game out as the meta shifted/evolved.
Personally, all I want to see is us hit patch 3.14, and Riot to rename the support biscuit a Pie Slice.
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On October 25 2013 05:35 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On October 25 2013 05:31 wei2coolman wrote:On October 25 2013 05:26 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 25 2013 05:12 wei2coolman wrote:On October 25 2013 04:55 Lord Tolkien wrote:On October 25 2013 04:50 wei2coolman wrote:On October 25 2013 04:46 CreationSoul wrote:
As a support main, I actually like the new vision system, at least in theory. Now you can buy all the great expensive "support" items Riot intended for you, with all those expensively useless regen stats, and all the AP (with your terrible AP ratios!) Items are being reworked, but you're exaggerating how expensive they are. They are very expensive without farm. Sure, with sololaner farm it's considered quite cheap, but when the only coins in your coffer is from passive gp10 (barring games when your team is snowballing) they are expenaive items, especially since the stats that come with the items blow. Just imagine how good shurelyas would be if it was a straight up upgrade from kindlegem without having to get like 800 gold of regen stats with it. I usually end up with full items I support by the time games hit 35-40 minutes playing Janna and Nami. granted I do that by loading up on GP 10 and buying less wards early,and I wouldn't recommend it in organized play, but its perfectly viable in SQ on a select number of Champions. Riot should be balancing for top play, not scrub league. Riot fundamentally disagrees. Honestly they do a decent job of doing both, it just happens to go against a lot of TL ideals of balance.
Even then, just look at where "support" items are right now.
If you simply got rid of a lot of useless support stats, you'd be able to have awesome support items for very nice pricepoint.
Imagine getting rid of the AP on Banner of Command, boom, that's a 900 gold drop, the item now costs 1500.
Mikael Crucible, get rid of all the health regen stats, boom, thats 1600-1700 gold.
Drop the AP and health/mana regen on ohmwrecker. Rather than cost 2800 gold, it'd be down to 1.2k-1.3k gold.
Shard of true ice, get rid of the AP part of it, and it only costs like 800 gold.
Now do these items looks a lot more attractive in current S3? Yes it fucking does. I don't understand why these ideas seem so hard for Riot to implement.
Also in regards to sighstone, why not just make sight stone wards only 1min 30sec coverage? That'd shore up a lot of the "too much" vision problem.
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all those ideas would make too much sense
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Something of note from the Quas AMA:
Liquid says there is much different structure [to the LCS] this time than what was used last time
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On October 25 2013 05:50 onlywonderboy wrote:Something of note from the Quas AMA: Show nested quote +Liquid says there is much different structure [to the LCS] this time than what was used last time
Maybe now the Spring Season and/or the Regular Season will matter!
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On October 25 2013 05:50 FinestHour wrote:
all those ideas would make too much sense
Sad, but oh so true.
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