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Vegetarian Wolf
Profile Joined May 2010
China434 Posts
October 15 2013 14:25 GMT
#4161
there were rumors floating around that they were working on veteran rewards for old accounts that includes some more refunds

only rumors though
Awooo...
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 15 2013 14:26 GMT
#4162
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 15 2013 14:27 GMT
#4163
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schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
October 15 2013 14:31 GMT
#4164
On October 15 2013 19:12 Gahlo wrote:
Played my first game as jax a few days ago. Holy hell is he faceroll.


Not quite renekton levels of faceroll but yeah he's pretty strong right now, just has a few bad matchups (Singed, Malphite, Renekton) and a lot of skill matchups imo (Darius Riven Garen Vlad Kennen).
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 15 2013 14:34 GMT
#4165
On October 15 2013 23:26 JimmiC wrote:
I don't know if there is a strict answer to this question but I appreciate your opinions.

I've noticed one flaw to my game is I am defending a tower and I know I'm going to die but I sty anyways. My question is when do higher level players leave.

Do u stay if you have a decent chance to make it a 1 for 1.?

Do you stay if you think that you will die he will live but the time it takes will protect your tower?

Do you stay if you know there going to dive and you think you could possibly (like 25%) kill both or even live and get one?

Or just play it safe and never die. If they can kill you should I just back?

I find higher level games have objectives faster and less kills. I know some of this is teamwork (lots of it) but I also think it's my defend tower to my death attitude.


The less you die, the better. People in solo queue do not understand the concept of "how not to die". If you learn it, you'll start doing better.

If they are definitely getting your tower, leave it - you'll likely die afterwards. Yes, you could pull off some beautiful play, but chances are you won't. Dying trying to defend your tower grants them huge map control on top of what they've already gained taking your tower. They can then sweep around and take dragon 5v4, and snowball that lead very quickly away from your team.

When in doubt, let it fall.
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Celial
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
2602 Posts
October 15 2013 14:51 GMT
#4166
I have a genious idea. But most likely it's trash. I wouldn't know, I'm bad at this game.

Zac support. He only needs to hard engange with slingshot ult and can then die since he won't do anything else in a fight anyways if build pure tank, except slow people and do minimal aoe? His build is not so much worse than jungle I figured, where he would have Ancient Golem, boots and maybe aegis. As support he would have Sightstone, boots and maybe a Kindlegem?

Do not regret. Always forward, never back.
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-15 15:18:39
October 15 2013 14:57 GMT
#4167
On October 15 2013 23:51 Celial wrote:
I have a genious idea. But most likely it's trash. I wouldn't know, I'm bad at this game.

Zac support. He only needs to hard engange with slingshot ult and can then die since he won't do anything else in a fight anyways if build pure tank, except slow people and do minimal aoe? His build is not so much worse than jungle I figured, where he would have Ancient Golem, boots and maybe aegis. As support he would have Sightstone, boots and maybe a Kindlegem?



Zac is too item dependent to be put in the support position

edit: and level dependent as hell too.
Wrag
Profile Joined February 2012
France124 Posts
October 15 2013 14:59 GMT
#4168
What exactly would he be doing in lane?
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
October 15 2013 15:08 GMT
#4169
On October 15 2013 23:59 Wrag wrote:
What exactly would he be doing in lane?

bounce to assert lane dominance
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
October 15 2013 15:18 GMT
#4170
On October 16 2013 00:08 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 23:59 Wrag wrote:
What exactly would he be doing in lane?

bounce to assert lane dominance

/laugh and /taunt your opponents into a false engagment
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 15 2013 15:18 GMT
#4171
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Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
October 15 2013 15:35 GMT
#4172
On October 15 2013 23:31 schmutttt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 19:12 Gahlo wrote:
Played my first game as jax a few days ago. Holy hell is he faceroll.


Not quite renekton levels of faceroll but yeah he's pretty strong right now, just has a few bad matchups (Singed, Malphite, Renekton) and a lot of skill matchups imo (Darius Riven Garen Vlad Kennen).

I'd say Jax's resurgence has absolutely everything to do with the new Triforce/Phage. It's completely bonkers on him.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
October 15 2013 15:56 GMT
#4173
On October 16 2013 00:18 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 23:51 Celial wrote:
I have a genious idea. But most likely it's trash. I wouldn't know, I'm bad at this game.

Zac support. He only needs to hard engange with slingshot ult and can then die since he won't do anything else in a fight anyways if build pure tank, except slow people and do minimal aoe? His build is not so much worse than jungle I figured, where he would have Ancient Golem, boots and maybe aegis. As support he would have Sightstone, boots and maybe a Kindlegem?




Why not aatrox. long distance slow, knockup, and then you can use passive on ganks for tower diving fun.

Probably just as bad but could be funny

You can do a pretty awesome lvl 2 all in with Q and W on bot aatrox. Running ad marks, quints, and ignite you do a really surprising amount of damage. Open W and auto a few times to gain an xp advantage and make sure your proc is ready the moment you hit lvl 2. If you can still nail them when they're lvl 1 its pretty much a guaranteed first blood on their support.
Q knockup->ignite->w proc->auto->flash->auto->W proc is even better than a demacian lvl 2 all in.
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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-15 16:04:09
October 15 2013 16:02 GMT
#4174
On October 16 2013 00:56 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 00:18 JimmiC wrote:
On October 15 2013 23:51 Celial wrote:
I have a genious idea. But most likely it's trash. I wouldn't know, I'm bad at this game.

Zac support. He only needs to hard engange with slingshot ult and can then die since he won't do anything else in a fight anyways if build pure tank, except slow people and do minimal aoe? His build is not so much worse than jungle I figured, where he would have Ancient Golem, boots and maybe aegis. As support he would have Sightstone, boots and maybe a Kindlegem?




Why not aatrox. long distance slow, knockup, and then you can use passive on ganks for tower diving fun.

Probably just as bad but could be funny

You can do a pretty awesome lvl 2 all in with Q and W on bot aatrox. Running ad marks, quints, and ignite you do a really surprising amount of damage. Open W and auto a few times to gain an xp advantage and make sure your proc is ready the moment you hit lvl 2. If you can still nail them when they're lvl 1 its pretty much a guaranteed first blood on their support.
Q knockup->ignite->w proc->auto->flash->auto->W proc is even better than a demacian lvl 2 all in.

Autoing the wave in bot as a melee at level 1? What's their duo doing, you should be at half life before you even hit 2. Also, nearly every ranged support pushes faster than you do at level 1. The whole "has range" thing. If you take W at level 1, there's ZERO pressure on them to not just harass you to 30% health before you hit 2 while also pushing. Just pick Leona if you want to do this. Her CC is more reliable, she's tankier on 0 items, and she doesn't become dead weight at 10+ minutes off a laning phase that was anything besides a blowout.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 15 2013 16:05 GMT
#4175
On October 15 2013 21:56 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 16:25 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 15 2013 16:23 FinestHour wrote:
what do i even do now at 0 points plat 5
is it even worth playing more ranked or should i just grief people and ruin promos

You should be banned for even thinking about this.


clearly people losing promo series is srss bssns
the dude was clearly joking wat

I would respond with just lol but id get banned with roffles and cheep

Losing promo series to a griefer is a minimum 2hours of wasted time.
If some fucker wastes 2 hours of my time, I'd be pretty fucking pissed.
liftlift > tsm
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
October 15 2013 16:15 GMT
#4176
its not wasted time at all
all you did is not achieve a meaningless division promotion which you can get easily if you improve enough to deserve it

don't tell me you play this game only to get that platnium 2 to platnium 1 rank up and everything else is a waste of time
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
October 15 2013 16:16 GMT
#4177
Crocodile Freelo train officially got derailed - I got stomped out of my promotion matches by a toplane Thresh T_T

Turns out it might actually be a great hard counter to Renekton. Thresh is a huge lane bully early especially when he's getting farm, and after dying twice early it reached the point where he would just poke me down and then kill me under turret. He did end up relatively useless later on but it didn't matter because he was still more useful than me.

Did I just get dumpstered by a better player, or is this a new potential counter to renek?
SUNSFANNED
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 15 2013 16:19 GMT
#4178
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 15 2013 16:20 GMT
#4179
On October 16 2013 01:15 Slayer91 wrote:
its not wasted time at all
all you did is not achieve a meaningless division promotion which you can get easily if you improve enough to deserve it

don't tell me you play this game only to get that platnium 2 to platnium 1 rank up and everything else is a waste of time

It's an added 2 hours to your travel through plat to diamond, or from gold to plat, and what not.
liftlift > tsm
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-15 16:22:17
October 15 2013 16:20 GMT
#4180
how can you even be sure someone is on promotion series to "grief" them

im sure like 95%+ of "griefers" are just someone feeding, people feed all the time at every level of play and people just want an excuse to report them and blame them

On October 16 2013 01:20 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2013 01:15 Slayer91 wrote:
its not wasted time at all
all you did is not achieve a meaningless division promotion which you can get easily if you improve enough to deserve it

don't tell me you play this game only to get that platnium 2 to platnium 1 rank up and everything else is a waste of time

It's an added 2 hours to your travel through plat to diamond, or from gold to plat, and what not.


If your mmr is high enough you will jump up that much faster if you have to win another 2 games while still in the same division. Division doesn't affect what games you get in, your mmr does. Your mmr also affects how fast you gain points to get a promotion series.
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