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RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
October 15 2013 06:17 GMT
#4121
On October 15 2013 13:36 miicah wrote:
So in dota an 'oracles' costs around the price of 11 regular wards or 8 pink wards while in lol an oracles is 5 regular/3 pinks. Would significantly increasing the price of oracles stop the early vision snowball? It may also encourage people to buy pinks rather than oracles and increase the importance of where they are placed.


there is too much vision in the game, and anything that removes vision is a good thing
konadora, in Racenilatr's blog: "you need to stop thinking about starcraft or anything computer-related for that matter. It's becoming a bad addiction imo"
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
October 15 2013 06:25 GMT
#4122
wei2cool has a point. At the moment support is that chill role people play so they don't get blamed. Buffing costs won't make the support suddenly stop buying oracles. It'll just make them poorer. They could revert the oracles changes so you lose it on death and supports would still throw all their gold into clearing and setting up wards.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
1ntrigue
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia948 Posts
October 15 2013 06:45 GMT
#4123
On October 15 2013 15:17 RoieTRS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 13:36 miicah wrote:
So in dota an 'oracles' costs around the price of 11 regular wards or 8 pink wards while in lol an oracles is 5 regular/3 pinks. Would significantly increasing the price of oracles stop the early vision snowball? It may also encourage people to buy pinks rather than oracles and increase the importance of where they are placed.


there is too much vision in the game, and anything that removes vision is a good thing

It goes deeper than that. Oracles removes vision, sure, but in the current state of LoL, this comes hand in hand with "monopolising vision". In DotA, that is quite difficult until gem is bought, and gem itself is a very expensive item with no cost-effectiveness apart from its one purpose. Beyond that, gem itself, is a risky item if one team is not absolutely dominating teamfights, and even then, the presence of buybacks and tp scrolls makes everything less predictable.

In LoL, Oracles is far more important beginning from the mid game to control vision, not only removing it. Because of its importance, rebalancing vision in LoL will be very delicate.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
October 15 2013 06:54 GMT
#4124
Of course all of this vision talk only applies to the very highest levels of play where oracles and wards are more than common. Teams often place 2-3+ before minions even arrive in lane.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
October 15 2013 07:09 GMT
#4125
So zed still untouched ?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-15 07:17:15
October 15 2013 07:14 GMT
#4126
On October 15 2013 16:09 Lylat wrote:
So zed still untouched ?

Yes. #riotplz.
I think the reason they changed Ahri and not Zed, cuz since Zed is pretty much 100% ban, while Ahri is a bit more dubious.
liftlift > tsm
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 15 2013 07:23 GMT
#4127
what do i even do now at 0 points plat 5
is it even worth playing more ranked or should i just grief people and ruin promos
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
1ntrigue
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia948 Posts
October 15 2013 07:24 GMT
#4128
On October 15 2013 16:23 FinestHour wrote:
what do i even do now at 0 points plat 5
is it even worth playing more ranked or should i just grief people and ruin promos

Make them fear the gatekeeper.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 15 2013 07:25 GMT
#4129
On October 15 2013 16:23 FinestHour wrote:
what do i even do now at 0 points plat 5
is it even worth playing more ranked or should i just grief people and ruin promos

You should be banned for even thinking about this.
liftlift > tsm
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
October 15 2013 07:27 GMT
#4130
what can i say meat eating sheep is a horrible influence
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 15 2013 07:28 GMT
#4131
On October 15 2013 13:38 LaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 10:00 oneofthem wrote:
so pobelter is playing with CLG in rank 5's.

http://www.azubu.tv/channel/detail.do?cn_id=2125982474001&vod_id


Lol not really. Link/hotshot/nintendude/wingsofdeath is not really CLG.

was talking about that blitzcrank game. was link htgg and doublelift.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
JazzVortical
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia1825 Posts
October 15 2013 07:34 GMT
#4132
On October 15 2013 11:31 iCanada wrote:
Wait...

Swain is getting buffed?

Fuck my life.

Swain is my kryptonite. Why the fuck would they give him more mana regen... any time his mana bar not 100% empty he unstoppable and he already has too much mana on anyone who can last hit.


Mana is too hard to manage obviously. Everyone's mana costs are going down, might as give him help too.

Mind you I do play a bit of Swain now and again

obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
October 15 2013 07:35 GMT
#4133
On October 15 2013 16:25 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 16:23 FinestHour wrote:
what do i even do now at 0 points plat 5
is it even worth playing more ranked or should i just grief people and ruin promos

You should be banned for even thinking about this.

Come on, if he really griefs enough he won't be at the mmr required to grief :p
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 15 2013 07:35 GMT
#4134
On October 15 2013 16:27 FinestHour wrote:
what can i say meat eating sheep is a horrible influence

I'm 100% fucking serious. Pull this kind of shit and you deserve to be in the level of hell of where pedophiles and clowns exist.
liftlift > tsm
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
October 15 2013 07:57 GMT
#4135
On October 15 2013 16:35 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 16:27 FinestHour wrote:
what can i say meat eating sheep is a horrible influence

I'm 100% fucking serious. Pull this kind of shit and you deserve to be in the level of hell of where pedophiles and clowns exist.


....
What did a clown do to you when you were still a young asian boy?
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 15 2013 07:59 GMT
#4136
On October 15 2013 16:57 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 16:35 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 15 2013 16:27 FinestHour wrote:
what can i say meat eating sheep is a horrible influence

I'm 100% fucking serious. Pull this kind of shit and you deserve to be in the level of hell of where pedophiles and clowns exist.


....
What did a clown do to you when you were still a young asian boy?

Who the fuck likes clowns? They're literally worse than Yorick players.
liftlift > tsm
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
October 15 2013 08:10 GMT
#4137
On October 15 2013 16:35 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 16:27 FinestHour wrote:
what can i say meat eating sheep is a horrible influence

I'm 100% fucking serious. Pull this kind of shit and you deserve to be in the level of hell of where pedophiles and clowns exist.

lol
God Bless
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-15 08:14:43
October 15 2013 08:14 GMT
#4138
On October 15 2013 16:14 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 16:09 Lylat wrote:
So zed still untouched ?

Yes. #riotplz.
I think the reason they changed Ahri and not Zed, cuz since Zed is pretty much 100% ban, while Ahri is a bit more dubious.

i think it's more likely cuz they gave him a million mechanics nobody can even read until they've played him 80 times so he's kind of hard to adjust
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 15 2013 08:14 GMT
#4139
On October 15 2013 15:17 RoieTRS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2013 13:36 miicah wrote:
So in dota an 'oracles' costs around the price of 11 regular wards or 8 pink wards while in lol an oracles is 5 regular/3 pinks. Would significantly increasing the price of oracles stop the early vision snowball? It may also encourage people to buy pinks rather than oracles and increase the importance of where they are placed.


there is too much vision in the game, and anything that removes vision is a good thing


really? you want more randomness?
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 15 2013 08:17 GMT
#4140
new zed skin probably. after that nerf. hue
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
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