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Hyren
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States817 Posts
September 10 2013 04:21 GMT
#1481
On September 10 2013 11:59 IMoperator wrote:
is there any way to fix twitch lag??? since the stream quality options change it's been lagging nonstop for me.

What browser are you using? I had to switch to Chrome from Firefox because apparently Firefox is busted for hd streams/videos.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 10 2013 04:29 GMT
#1482
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/25652-unofficial-pbe-changes-for-9-9-new-champion-trades

So basically Riot decided the Katarina rework was a mistake and reverted back to the older Katarina.
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 10 2013 04:33 GMT
#1483
On September 10 2013 13:29 Sufficiency wrote:
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/25652-unofficial-pbe-changes-for-9-9-new-champion-trades

So basically Riot decided the Katarina rework was a mistake and reverted back to the older Katarina.

Except they didn't change the abilities back
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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
September 10 2013 04:41 GMT
#1484
i thought thats kat's buff, i totally forgot how the old kat looks like.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
September 10 2013 04:50 GMT
#1485
On September 10 2013 13:21 Hyren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 11:59 IMoperator wrote:
is there any way to fix twitch lag??? since the stream quality options change it's been lagging nonstop for me.

What browser are you using? I had to switch to Chrome from Firefox because apparently Firefox is busted for hd streams/videos.

im using chrome.

some streams seem fine while at the exact same time others lag like crazy. Like phantoml0rd's stream stutters every 5-10 seconds and then goes back to normal and then goes back to messed up again. Destiny's stream on the other hand, seems to work perfectly fine. I don't understand why some streams wont work and others do.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
September 10 2013 04:56 GMT
#1486
I don't know what Katrina's problems are, but the ultimate was not it.

Then again, I never thought she was unviable anyway, so maybe this small buff will just remind players she exists.
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
September 10 2013 05:12 GMT
#1487
On September 10 2013 13:33 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 13:29 Sufficiency wrote:
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/25652-unofficial-pbe-changes-for-9-9-new-champion-trades

So basically Riot decided the Katarina rework was a mistake and reverted back to the older Katarina.

Except they didn't change the abilities back


I mean, all they did was extend the ult duration .5s, the other changes reflect that, except at lvl 6 where it's for practical purposes a nerf(full channeled ult is a buff because of the increased total ratio, but non full channel is a nerf because ratio/s is changed and damage is the same but channeled over longer period of time).
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smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
September 10 2013 05:15 GMT
#1488
Why does Cop get 3 dorans
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
September 10 2013 05:17 GMT
#1489
Sweet jesus, I can't get over the fact that Olaf now has scaling True Damage on his E instead of just the base.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
September 10 2013 05:19 GMT
#1490
On September 10 2013 14:17 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Sweet jesus, I can't get over the fact that Olaf now has scaling True Damage on his E instead of just the base.


40% of bonus AD isn't really alot though. With 80 from ult and maybe 100 (at most) from items, it's an extra 72 damage. And it's base damage went down by like 40 at max rank too.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 10 2013 05:22 GMT
#1491
On September 10 2013 14:15 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Why does Cop get 3 dorans

He thinks he's Genja.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
September 10 2013 05:30 GMT
#1492
On September 10 2013 14:22 Gahlo wrote:
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On September 10 2013 14:15 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Why does Cop get 3 dorans

He thinks he's Genja.

Not very ambitious, is he?
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
September 10 2013 05:32 GMT
#1493
But really, why
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MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
September 10 2013 05:33 GMT
#1494
So why don't people pick support Morg against Ashe/Zyra or just Ashe in general. It makes Ashe so hilariously useless if her only strength is completely mitigated
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-10 05:38:08
September 10 2013 05:36 GMT
#1495
Because support morg is pretty useless. If you don't land your shit you lose the lane. Absolutely no harass potential whatsoever and would get ran over by zyra/sona. Don't even get me started about morg's midgame. I don't see how a 16 second cd shield counters ashe.
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
September 10 2013 05:40 GMT
#1496
On September 10 2013 14:36 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Because support morg is pretty useless. If you don't land your shit you lose the lane. Absolutely no harass potential whatsoever and would get ran over by zyra/sona. Don't even get me started about morg's midgame. I don't see how a 16 second cd shield counters ashe.

Because it blocks cc? How do you not see how that would be useful against Ashe. And requiring skillshots is not a drawback, nami requires you land bubble and Morg requires you land binding. Her ult is actually really good in a 2v2 fight bot (especially when their supports cc doesn't work and yours does). Although her harass is pretty poor if you don't get any points in W (you shouldn't) Her mid game is great, she has what every support requires- cc people.
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dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
September 10 2013 05:48 GMT
#1497
On September 10 2013 14:40 MattBarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 14:36 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Because support morg is pretty useless. If you don't land your shit you lose the lane. Absolutely no harass potential whatsoever and would get ran over by zyra/sona. Don't even get me started about morg's midgame. I don't see how a 16 second cd shield counters ashe.

Because it blocks cc? How do you not see how that would be useful against Ashe. And requiring skillshots is not a drawback, nami requires you land bubble and Morg requires you land binding. Her ult is actually really good in a 2v2 fight bot (especially when their supports cc doesn't work and yours does). Although her harass is pretty poor if you don't get any points in W (you shouldn't) Her mid game is great, she has what every support requires- cc people.


Any good botlane with a ranged support (janna, lulu, zyra, nami, sona) is just going to sit behind creeps and punish your adc hard for every single cs, which you cant respond to since morgana that can't hit a bind (creep wave in the way) is useless.

It can be decent with a godlike morgana as a counterpick to blitz but that is about it. Things like support annie, lux, and nid all have more potential and can actually lane (though nid requires ez adc)
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
September 10 2013 05:50 GMT
#1498
Morg support hard counters Leona.

And...yeah, there are a bunch of losing matchups there. Still better than what some people make it out to be though. The shield man, the shield.
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MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
September 10 2013 05:50 GMT
#1499
On September 10 2013 14:48 dae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2013 14:40 MattBarry wrote:
On September 10 2013 14:36 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Because support morg is pretty useless. If you don't land your shit you lose the lane. Absolutely no harass potential whatsoever and would get ran over by zyra/sona. Don't even get me started about morg's midgame. I don't see how a 16 second cd shield counters ashe.

Because it blocks cc? How do you not see how that would be useful against Ashe. And requiring skillshots is not a drawback, nami requires you land bubble and Morg requires you land binding. Her ult is actually really good in a 2v2 fight bot (especially when their supports cc doesn't work and yours does). Although her harass is pretty poor if you don't get any points in W (you shouldn't) Her mid game is great, she has what every support requires- cc people.


Any good botlane with a ranged support (janna, lulu, zyra, nami, sona) is just going to sit behind creeps and punish your adc hard for every single cs, which you cant respond to since morgana that can't hit a bind (creep wave in the way) is useless.

It can be decent with a godlike morgana as a counterpick to blitz but that is about it. Things like support annie, lux, and nid all have more potential and can actually lane (though nid requires ez adc)

If you pick support nid you're a bad person. Support Morg works best with Cait in my experience because once you land a binding they can't respond to Cait's autos
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zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
September 10 2013 05:58 GMT
#1500
What about Morgana mid vs ashe comps? Doesn't help vs arrows in botlane, but will negate arrow engages in mid-late game
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