EPTOn September 29 2013 12:16 Requizen wrote:
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I like this thread without the circlejerk
[Patch 3.11] General Discussion - Page 310
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
I like this thread without the circlejerk | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
I was trying to math out good times to use it today and it just seems bad. Mostly the active just seems bad. AD champions prefer BotRK and AP champions prefer DFG, it seems like almost nobody outside of Akali likes Gunblade, and even for her it's questionable. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
E: My sales pitch is incredible. Does anyone want to buy something from me? It's not as terrible as it could be! | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On September 29 2013 14:01 Haiq343 wrote: Didn't someone get it in an EU LCS game as a 6th item on Ahri? Not exactly a huge niche, but it didn't seem totally worthless. E: My sales pitch is incredible. Does anyone want to buy something from me? It's not as terrible as it could be! Froggen used to make it on her alot | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Oh, and also give movespeed! And cost less! And give more AP! | ||
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LaM
United States1321 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On September 29 2013 14:36 Shikyo wrote: It doesn't need to be good in general. Just good on the certain champs. Even Jax doesn't use it. I think Jax should use it. In fact, I think Jax should use it over Bork. copy/pasted my post in jax thread On September 29 2013 14:09 Ryuu314 wrote: Someone else can do that math, but I honestly think Gunblade would do more damage than Bork. Bork's effectiveness damage-wise is heavily impacted by armor and Jax is honestly never going to get any armor pen. Gunblade gives both AD and AP, two stats Jax scales off of. By boosting both Jax's autos and W/R, it makes it even harder than it already is to itemize defensively against him; indirectly giving him more damage potential. On top of that, Gunblade also indirectly boosts Jax's survivability by giving him more sustain than Bork (20% spellvamp is pretty darn huge when you're W and R'ing on low cd) and also pumps his ult. The biggest draw to Bork over Gunblade is the speed boost Bork gives. Gunblade, however, gives 40% slow (compared to Bork's 30%) and has 250 more range on Bork, which is arguably neglible since Jax's jump is 700 range. But given that Triforce is core on Jax, plus diminishing returns on movespeed boosts, I think Gunblade gives better chasing and sticking power. EDIT: I think I can safely say that the reason why pros haven't/aren't building Gunblade on Jax (or anyone) is because Gunblade (and Jax for that matter) is basically completely unproven on the pro level so they're avoiding it due to unfamiliarity. I do think it's a good alternative to Bork, especially after all the Bork nerfs. Gunblade isn't good on most champions, but on a select few I think it's arguably better than Bork. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Also you guys forget BotRK allows Jax to stack up his passive significantly faster, and his ulti hits a lot more frequently. The math should be pretty close, in regards to damage. | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On September 29 2013 14:57 FinestHour wrote: i hope season 4 brings some tryndamere and draven buffs Literally the devil. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 29 2013 14:57 FinestHour wrote: i hope season 4 brings some tryndamere and draven buffs I want them to lower passive gold gain, it pretty much allows shittier players to still have effect in games. It's pretty silly. | ||
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silencefc
United States875 Posts
On September 29 2013 15:14 wei2coolman wrote: I want them to lower passive gold gain, it pretty much allows shittier players to still have effect in games. It's pretty silly. As a support main, that was like the best patch ever. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 29 2013 15:16 silencefc wrote: As a support main, that was like the best patch ever. Yeah more passive gold lets you buy more wards! It doesn't fix anything if support itemization is still crap. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 29 2013 15:16 silencefc wrote: As a support main, that was like the best patch ever. Did you watch Royal vs FNC? Tabe only had tier 1 boots, and wards til like 40 minutes. Yes, cuz passive gold gain, is so fucking useful for support. On September 29 2013 15:18 TheYango wrote: Yeah more passive gold lets you buy more wards! It doesn't fix anything if support itemization is still crap. S3 jungler almost just as sad as S2 Jungler, except this time, they get one decent item (bluefist golem spirit item), then they just buy wards and oracles all day. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
But still, even if that forces supports to buy items the items themselves won't do much except give support players a false sense of scaling. | ||
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silencefc
United States875 Posts
I don't usually buy anything past Ruby Sightstone, Mobo Boots, Wards + Oracles but those runes changed how supports can play in lane early. | ||
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