• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 21:31
CET 03:31
KST 11:31
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT28Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 16-22): MaxPax doubles0Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0247LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2
StarCraft 2
General
Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book
Tourneys
WardiTV Team League Season 10 The Dave Testa Open #11 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare Mutation # 512 Overclocked
Brood War
General
Soma Explains: JD's Unrelenting Aggro vs FlaSh ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ CasterMuse Youtube TvZ is the most complete match up
Tourneys
Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [LIVE] [S:21] ASL Season Open Day 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason New broswer game : STG-World
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Mexico's Drug War Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here!
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1463 users

[Patch 3.11] General Discussion - Page 310

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 308 309 310 311 312 331 Next
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
September 29 2013 04:34 GMT
#6181
On September 29 2013 12:16 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 12:14 schmutttt wrote:
On September 29 2013 09:37 NeoIllusions wrote:
On September 29 2013 04:00 Slusher wrote:
I wonder how Neo feels about the split mabye not now but mabye after 2 cycles of it. I'd love for it to go back, but it's not like a big deal for me either.

I am content with the split.
I think most people are too.


For the love of god don't change it back pls neo

Don't you want to hear the latest pokemon news?


I like this thread without the circlejerk
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 29 2013 04:45 GMT
#6182
I wonder if they'll do anything with Hextech Gunblade for season 4.

I was trying to math out good times to use it today and it just seems bad. Mostly the active just seems bad.

AD champions prefer BotRK and AP champions prefer DFG, it seems like almost nobody outside of Akali likes Gunblade, and even for her it's questionable.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 29 2013 04:50 GMT
#6183
Yeah, Gunblade active is really meh. If you could reliably use it twice in a fight, or if for instance if refreshed its cooldown or at least half of its cooldown on kill it'd probably be used more often.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 29 2013 04:56 GMT
#6184
Or if it also had an AD ratio so it actually did damage.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Haiq343
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 05:02:01
September 29 2013 05:01 GMT
#6185
Didn't someone get it in an EU LCS game as a 6th item on Ahri? Not exactly a huge niche, but it didn't seem totally worthless.
E: My sales pitch is incredible. Does anyone want to buy something from me? It's not as terrible as it could be!
I am enough of an artist to draw freely upon my imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited, whereas imagination encircles the world. -Einstein
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 29 2013 05:03 GMT
#6186
On September 29 2013 14:01 Haiq343 wrote:
Didn't someone get it in an EU LCS game as a 6th item on Ahri? Not exactly a huge niche, but it didn't seem totally worthless.
E: My sales pitch is incredible. Does anyone want to buy something from me? It's not as terrible as it could be!


Froggen used to make it on her alot
Carrilord has arrived.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 05:08:31
September 29 2013 05:06 GMT
#6187
Boots, DFG, zhonyas, dcap, void staff are absolute core. 6th item could be hextech but I personally think rylais is super good. Seems like its situational usefulness is pretty limited compared to items like rylais/abyssal. I guess it's for if you want to still have that 100-0 burst potential on a target. Oh, and even lichbane is pretty decent lategame.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 05:13:56
September 29 2013 05:10 GMT
#6188
At the point that you have that many items the Lichbane passive will do more damage than the Gunblade active. And maybe proc more than once a battle too!

Oh, and also give movespeed!

And cost less!

And give more AP!
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
LaM
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1321 Posts
September 29 2013 05:30 GMT
#6189
6th item gunblade is ok on ahri. The spell vamp is nice and the active is useful and you auto a lot on Ahri. But yeah in general the item sucks. Riot has said it kinda has too tho. If gunblade is ever good in general it becomes WAY too good on certain champs (akali, jax, etc)
Anything is Possible
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 29 2013 05:36 GMT
#6190
It doesn't need to be good in general. Just good on the certain champs. Even Jax doesn't use it.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 29 2013 05:57 GMT
#6191
i hope season 4 brings some tryndamere and draven buffs
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 05:59:58
September 29 2013 05:59 GMT
#6192
On September 29 2013 14:36 Shikyo wrote:
It doesn't need to be good in general. Just good on the certain champs. Even Jax doesn't use it.

I think Jax should use it. In fact, I think Jax should use it over Bork.

copy/pasted my post in jax thread
On September 29 2013 14:09 Ryuu314 wrote:
Someone else can do that math, but I honestly think Gunblade would do more damage than Bork. Bork's effectiveness damage-wise is heavily impacted by armor and Jax is honestly never going to get any armor pen. Gunblade gives both AD and AP, two stats Jax scales off of. By boosting both Jax's autos and W/R, it makes it even harder than it already is to itemize defensively against him; indirectly giving him more damage potential.

On top of that, Gunblade also indirectly boosts Jax's survivability by giving him more sustain than Bork (20% spellvamp is pretty darn huge when you're W and R'ing on low cd) and also pumps his ult.

The biggest draw to Bork over Gunblade is the speed boost Bork gives. Gunblade, however, gives 40% slow (compared to Bork's 30%) and has 250 more range on Bork, which is arguably neglible since Jax's jump is 700 range. But given that Triforce is core on Jax, plus diminishing returns on movespeed boosts, I think Gunblade gives better chasing and sticking power.

EDIT: I think I can safely say that the reason why pros haven't/aren't building Gunblade on Jax (or anyone) is because Gunblade (and Jax for that matter) is basically completely unproven on the pro level so they're avoiding it due to unfamiliarity. I do think it's a good alternative to Bork, especially after all the Bork nerfs.


Gunblade isn't good on most champions, but on a select few I think it's arguably better than Bork.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 29 2013 06:06 GMT
#6193
Triforce so good though...
Also you guys forget BotRK allows Jax to stack up his passive significantly faster, and his ulti hits a lot more frequently. The math should be pretty close, in regards to damage.
liftlift > tsm
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
September 29 2013 06:11 GMT
#6194
On September 29 2013 14:57 FinestHour wrote:
i hope season 4 brings some tryndamere and draven buffs


Literally the devil.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 29 2013 06:14 GMT
#6195
On September 29 2013 14:57 FinestHour wrote:
i hope season 4 brings some tryndamere and draven buffs

I want them to lower passive gold gain, it pretty much allows shittier players to still have effect in games. It's pretty silly.
liftlift > tsm
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
September 29 2013 06:16 GMT
#6196
On September 29 2013 15:14 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 14:57 FinestHour wrote:
i hope season 4 brings some tryndamere and draven buffs

I want them to lower passive gold gain, it pretty much allows shittier players to still have effect in games. It's pretty silly.


As a support main, that was like the best patch ever.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 29 2013 06:18 GMT
#6197
On September 29 2013 15:16 silencefc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 15:14 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 29 2013 14:57 FinestHour wrote:
i hope season 4 brings some tryndamere and draven buffs

I want them to lower passive gold gain, it pretty much allows shittier players to still have effect in games. It's pretty silly.


As a support main, that was like the best patch ever.

Yeah more passive gold lets you buy more wards!

It doesn't fix anything if support itemization is still crap.
Moderator
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-29 06:25:50
September 29 2013 06:24 GMT
#6198
On September 29 2013 15:16 silencefc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 15:14 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 29 2013 14:57 FinestHour wrote:
i hope season 4 brings some tryndamere and draven buffs

I want them to lower passive gold gain, it pretty much allows shittier players to still have effect in games. It's pretty silly.


As a support main, that was like the best patch ever.

Did you watch Royal vs FNC? Tabe only had tier 1 boots, and wards til like 40 minutes.
Yes, cuz passive gold gain, is so fucking useful for support.
On September 29 2013 15:18 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 15:16 silencefc wrote:
On September 29 2013 15:14 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 29 2013 14:57 FinestHour wrote:
i hope season 4 brings some tryndamere and draven buffs

I want them to lower passive gold gain, it pretty much allows shittier players to still have effect in games. It's pretty silly.


As a support main, that was like the best patch ever.

Yeah more passive gold lets you buy more wards!

It doesn't fix anything if support itemization is still crap.

S3 jungler almost just as sad as S2 Jungler, except this time, they get one decent item (bluefist golem spirit item), then they just buy wards and oracles all day.
liftlift > tsm
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 29 2013 06:27 GMT
#6199
Just limit ward purchase per player =o

But still, even if that forces supports to buy items the items themselves won't do much except give support players a false sense of scaling.
silencefc
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States875 Posts
September 29 2013 06:29 GMT
#6200
It meant I started using combat runes instead of the shitty GP10's that everyone ran for Season 2.

I don't usually buy anything past Ruby Sightstone, Mobo Boots, Wards + Oracles but those runes changed how supports can play in lane early.
Slice like a goddamn hammer.
Prev 1 308 309 310 311 312 331 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
00:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #18
CranKy Ducklings130
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 201
SteadfastSC 155
Vindicta 39
NeuroSwarm 10
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 2073
Artosis 710
NaDa 36
Rock 8
Dota 2
monkeys_forever241
febbydoto32
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
Fnx 2085
taco 509
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox513
Other Games
summit1g10758
Day[9].tv1017
shahzam522
JimRising 502
C9.Mang0303
Maynarde123
ViBE45
Livibee36
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick954
Counter-Strike
PGL246
Other Games
BasetradeTV96
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH140
• Hupsaiya 93
• HeavenSC 18
• davetesta17
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 22
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21993
League of Legends
• Doublelift5157
Other Games
• Day9tv1017
• Shiphtur314
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
7h 29m
Replay Cast
21h 29m
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
OSC
2 days
SC Evo Complete
2 days
DaveTesta Events
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-22
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
ASL Season 21: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 21: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.