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remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
September 27 2013 04:15 GMT
#5661
Without delving into pure nonsense, it is safe to say that Riot is not going in that ridiculous, hilarious direction simply based on their continued production of "happy" content, such as pool party skins. There are no sunbathing Lee Sins in 1984. You must be trolling if you actually believe Riot wants a dystopian environment. It is literally anathema to Riot Games' model.
Stay positive!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 04:20:47
September 27 2013 04:17 GMT
#5662
It was pretty heavily implied early on (see Swain's judgement where one of the summoners from the High Council pretty much acknowledge that the Institute hosts behind-the-scene ploys), and later the Kalamanda story-line can be summed up as "Nexus discovered at Kalamanda, the summoners wants it to study it, they associate with Noxians with ties to the Black Rose [eg. Swain/LB as opposed to Katarina/Talon] and higher-ups from the JoJ to fabricate a crisis and justify the League taking over the region to protect it".
Brand's interview implies that he knows about the League's hidden agenda, although Riot didn't really try hard with this one (I like to think it's tied to his guinea pig status for them tho).

There's a ton of stuff like that, and aside from the "scientific" goals (with restraints put on magic usage since the Rune Wars, the League is the best excuse for studying nexuses of power in plain view for current Xerath-wannabes) there is the fact that the Institute of War holds a lot more influence as it entices City-States to pressure each other into enlisting. Arbitrating a dispute between Noxus and Demacia is one thing, progressively establishing oneself as the go-to arbitrator for every single inter-state dispute while being "trusted" by each side to be neutral makes you the indirect ruler of the continent.

But if Riot tries to delete the Institute by ceasing to reference it (and basically keep it alive) then there's only the League left, as "that place where champions gather". Which saddens me a bit, but oh well.


Thing is, Kalamanda's format makes it great to follow while it's ongoing, but there's no ingame impact and after it's over there's only written material for people who'd like to know about it.
With stuff like the Freljord event, there's a bunch of ingame easter eggs and stuff (like the 3 sisters' quest, the shopkeepers, Lissandra's speech once you win an ARAM, etc.) to make players feel involved, or give "easier" access to the lore (by delivering it/spoon-feeding it to players rather than make it accessible for whoever wants to make the effort themselves—yes, this sounds elitist, I know). Supposedly once it ends you can more easily show the repercussions to players too. But then again, Riot has said that the Freljord's war is supposed to be over, but they'll never be able to give it durable effects because the champions still have to be in the game, the factions still have to exist, and they didn't remove the 3 sisters' quest either.

So officially, with how they work and stuff, the war's over, the story has moved on. Yay! But we don't have the faintest damned clue about what happened after its launch, who won, was Lissandra's cover blown, to which extent were the losers hurt, etc. I personally don't see how it's a better way to serve lore and stuff and bring it to the players, but eh. Whatever.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 27 2013 04:17 GMT
#5663
On September 27 2013 13:15 remedium wrote:
Without delving into pure nonsense, it is safe to say that Riot is not going in that ridiculous, hilarious direction simply based on their continued production of "happy" content, such as pool party skins. There are no sunbathing Lee Sins in 1984. You must be trolling if you actually believe Riot wants a dystopian environment. It is literally anathema to Riot Games' model.

But all those Battlecast skins are so gloomy and serious, and awesome!
liftlift > tsm
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 04:21:52
September 27 2013 04:21 GMT
#5664
On September 27 2013 13:10 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 13:08 UniversalSnip wrote:
Damn, if you like his post just give it to him without a backhand

Eh, Comments like that are fine, because at least comments like that are + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 13:10 Chexx wrote:
no humor in this place :<

i laughed don't worry buddy.

at least one person has humor

On September 27 2013 13:17 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 13:15 remedium wrote:
Without delving into pure nonsense, it is safe to say that Riot is not going in that ridiculous, hilarious direction simply based on their continued production of "happy" content, such as pool party skins. There are no sunbathing Lee Sins in 1984. You must be trolling if you actually believe Riot wants a dystopian environment. It is literally anathema to Riot Games' model.

But all those Battlecast skins are so gloomy and serious, and awesome!


pretty sure that they will receive the beach party theme treatment
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 04:23:11
September 27 2013 04:22 GMT
#5665
On September 27 2013 13:17 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 13:15 remedium wrote:
Without delving into pure nonsense, it is safe to say that Riot is not going in that ridiculous, hilarious direction simply based on their continued production of "happy" content, such as pool party skins. There are no sunbathing Lee Sins in 1984. You must be trolling if you actually believe Riot wants a dystopian environment. It is literally anathema to Riot Games' model.

But all those Battlecast skins are so gloomy and serious, and awesome!

Overall the art direction has been more and more "serious" with the alternate art being far more bright. See Justicar skins being non standard. and even Leona's splash art, theoretically someone who should have the brightest and most cheery art, she's turning away from the sun hidden in a cloud filled sky with a very serious look on her face. Then if you look at even Trundle, who turned from a paragon savior of his clan by taking on the entire burden himself, to a war monger.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 27 2013 04:22 GMT
#5666
I like the splash art, too bad the ingame model looks nothing like that. Not nearly psychotic-looking enough and way too....generic?
Riot I am disappoint.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 27 2013 04:23 GMT
#5667
On September 27 2013 13:22 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 13:17 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 27 2013 13:15 remedium wrote:
Without delving into pure nonsense, it is safe to say that Riot is not going in that ridiculous, hilarious direction simply based on their continued production of "happy" content, such as pool party skins. There are no sunbathing Lee Sins in 1984. You must be trolling if you actually believe Riot wants a dystopian environment. It is literally anathema to Riot Games' model.

But all those Battlecast skins are so gloomy and serious, and awesome!

Overall the art direction has been more and more "serious" with the alternate art being far more bright. See Justicar skins being non standard. and even Leona's splash art, theoretically someone who should have the brightest and most cheery art, she's turning away from the sun hidden in a cloud filled sky with a very serious look on her face.

Wow, too deep for me.

Seriously though, some of the "serious" skins, are pretty fucking sweet. Arc Light Varus was simply awesome.
liftlift > tsm
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 04:29:10
September 27 2013 04:28 GMT
#5668
Question regarding Game 1 between Bears and SKT1:

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.twitch.tv/riotgames/b/464765347?t=1h37m40s


Why does bengi get 401 gold for first blood?
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 04:29:50
September 27 2013 04:28 GMT
#5669
On September 27 2013 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
I like the splash art, too bad the ingame model looks nothing like that. Not nearly psychotic-looking enough and way too....generic?
Riot I am disappoint.

You can't have in game art outside of spell effects be radically different as even art/models can be balance issue in this genre (see Gondar being possibly the most imbalanced model in DotA 1)

Proofs (spoilered for size/language):+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


On September 27 2013 13:28 ItsFunToLose wrote:
Question regarding Game 1 between Bears and SKT1:

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.twitch.tv/riotgames/b/464765347?t=1h37m40s


Why does bengi get 401 gold for first blood?

+ Show Spoiler +
Vi and cait's On the case passive gives them +1 gold per kill.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 27 2013 04:30 GMT
#5670
On September 27 2013 13:28 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
I like the splash art, too bad the ingame model looks nothing like that. Not nearly psychotic-looking enough and way too....generic?
Riot I am disappoint.

You can't have in game art outside of spell effects be radically different as even art/models can be balance issue in this genre (see Gondar being possibly the most imbalanced model in DotA 1)

Proofs (spoilered for size/language):+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 13:28 ItsFunToLose wrote:
Question regarding Game 1 between Bears and SKT1:

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.twitch.tv/riotgames/b/464765347?t=1h37m40s


Why does bengi get 401 gold for first blood?

+ Show Spoiler +
Vi and cait's On the case passive gives them +1 gold per kill.

How is making her face not look retarded and actually psychotic looking a radically different game-changing ingame art change?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 27 2013 04:32 GMT
#5671
On September 27 2013 13:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 13:28 PrinceXizor wrote:
On September 27 2013 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
I like the splash art, too bad the ingame model looks nothing like that. Not nearly psychotic-looking enough and way too....generic?
Riot I am disappoint.

You can't have in game art outside of spell effects be radically different as even art/models can be balance issue in this genre (see Gondar being possibly the most imbalanced model in DotA 1)

Proofs (spoilered for size/language):+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


On September 27 2013 13:28 ItsFunToLose wrote:
Question regarding Game 1 between Bears and SKT1:

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.twitch.tv/riotgames/b/464765347?t=1h37m40s


Why does bengi get 401 gold for first blood?

+ Show Spoiler +
Vi and cait's On the case passive gives them +1 gold per kill.

How is making her face not look retarded and actually psychotic looking a radically different game-changing ingame art change?

I thought you meant her overall model different from standard. just the face shouldn't change much, but even psychopaths have normal faces unless they have a reason otherwise (like the joker or shaco)
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 04:40:33
September 27 2013 04:34 GMT
#5672
On September 27 2013 13:22 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 13:17 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 27 2013 13:15 remedium wrote:
Without delving into pure nonsense, it is safe to say that Riot is not going in that ridiculous, hilarious direction simply based on their continued production of "happy" content, such as pool party skins. There are no sunbathing Lee Sins in 1984. You must be trolling if you actually believe Riot wants a dystopian environment. It is literally anathema to Riot Games' model.

But all those Battlecast skins are so gloomy and serious, and awesome!

Overall the art direction has been more and more "serious" with the alternate art being far more bright. See Justicar skins being non standard. and even Leona's splash art, theoretically someone who should have the brightest and most cheery art, she's turning away from the sun hidden in a cloud filled sky with a very serious look on her face. Then if you look at even Trundle, who turned from a paragon savior of his clan by taking on the entire burden himself, to a war monger.

People.
Just.
Read.
The.
Damn.
Trundle.
Judgement.

Dammit. Once and for all.

(TL;DR: Trundle comes to the League, they tell him "We already have a cure: the curse merged with your tribe's regeneration and losing one means losing both, so they'll die from AIDS unless we revert the ritual to heal you while giving them both back", Trundle thinks he could become a loved hero of his people, remembers he thought that the first time before he accepted the ritual and became even more an outcast after than before, decides to teach the tribe a lesson by dooming them to AIDS, and joins the League because sharing his mind with summoners and being accepted there is the cure to his "true" disease: living alone and shunned.)

He fucking condemned his whole tribe to die over the next few generations, out of spite for them using him, lying to him and treating him like a pariah. He definitely has his reasons, but he's not a paragon at all. He didn't accept the ritual out of kindness either, he was as much of an ugly duckling to them before as he'd be to us now because his regeneration let him look "normal" (so it was also jealousy on their part on top of that) and he was a runt, so he was being bullied and he hoped to be loved and hailed as a savior and basically revered by all those who despised him previously.
And that's what makes him one of League's best-written characters in passing.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
September 27 2013 04:34 GMT
#5673
On September 27 2013 13:10 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 13:08 UniversalSnip wrote:
Damn, if you like his post just give it to him without a backhand

Eh, Comments like that are fine, because at least comments like that are + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



salty?
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 27 2013 04:35 GMT
#5674
On September 27 2013 13:34 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:

salty?

no, Classic.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 27 2013 04:36 GMT
#5675
On September 27 2013 13:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
I like the splash art, too bad the ingame model looks nothing like that. Not nearly psychotic-looking enough and way too....generic?
Riot I am disappoint.

I just really hope her in game effects and VO are as psychotic as the lore. Crazy chicks and punk chicks OP.
It's your boy Guzma!
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 27 2013 04:43 GMT
#5676
her chest isnt a 50DDD size well done riot games artists for once
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 27 2013 04:45 GMT
#5677
On September 27 2013 13:43 FinestHour wrote:
her chest isnt a 50DDD size well done riot games artists for once

yeah but her weapons need 34 D batteries, so jokes on us.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 27 2013 04:48 GMT
#5678
On September 27 2013 13:45 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 13:43 FinestHour wrote:
her chest isnt a 50DDD size well done riot games artists for once

yeah but her weapons need 34 D batteries, so jokes on us.

"weapons"
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 27 2013 04:51 GMT
#5679
Oh gosh Reddit comments don't often get things right but when they do

I can't wait to hear casters shout "SUPER MEGA DEATH ROCKET!!!" in the middle of a match


SUUPAA MEEEGUUU DEEEESUUUU ROOOOKETTOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
It's your boy Guzma!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 27 2013 04:52 GMT
#5680
http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3897827
PX, tell me the change some random dude made doesn't look better.
Just try and fucking tell me that.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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