[Patch 3.11] General Discussion - Page 285

On September 27 2013 13:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3897827
PX, tell me the change some random dude made doesn't look better.
Just try and fucking tell me that.

On September 27 2013 13:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3897827
PX, tell me the change some random dude made doesn't look better.
Just try and fucking tell me that.

On September 27 2013 13:54 PrinceXizor wrote:

They changed her eye color and removed her makeup. its nonsensical she'd wear makeup anyway. I never disagreed that a facial change is bad. When you wanted her to look more psychotic i thought you meant her stance and model, which could make her more difficult to change, and palette changes do affect visibility if done poorly as well

On September 27 2013 14:02 WaveofShadow wrote:

Can't you just agree with someone simply for once without sounding argumentative?
What happened to you as a child?

On September 27 2013 13:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3897827
PX, tell me the change some random dude made doesn't look better.
Just try and fucking tell me that.

On September 27 2013 13:34 Alaric wrote:

People.
Just.
Read.
The.
Damn.
Trundle.
Judgement.

Dammit. Once and for all.

(TL;DR: Trundle comes to the League, they tell him "We already have a cure: the curse merged with your tribe's regeneration and losing one means losing both, so they'll die from AIDS unless we revert the ritual to heal you while giving them both back", Trundle thinks he could become a loved hero of his people, remembers he thought that the first time before he accepted the ritual and became even more an outcast after than before, decides to teach the tribe a lesson by dooming them to AIDS, and joins the League because sharing his mind with summoners and being accepted there is the cure to his "true" disease: living alone and shunned.)

He fucking condemned his whole tribe to die over the next few generations, out of spite for them using him, lying to him and treating him like a pariah. He definitely has his reasons, but he's not a paragon at all. He didn't accept the ritual out of kindness either, he was as much of an ugly duckling to them before as he'd be to us now because his regeneration let him look "normal" (so it was also jealousy on their part on top of that) and he was a runt, so he was being bullied and he hoped to be loved and hailed as a savior and basically revered by all those who despised him previously.
And that's what makes him one of League's best-written characters in passing.

On September 27 2013 14:17 GhandiEAGLE wrote:

AND THEN THEY TOOK THIS LORE AND THIS PERSONALITY THAT I LOVED SO MUCH AND TURNED IT INTO SOME DOUCHE WHO DID DUMB THINGS AND THEN RIOT PUT THE ADJECTIVE CLEVER NEXT TO IT TO TRY AND MAKE IT CLEVER BUT NO ALL HE DID WAS GET CAUGHT AND THEN SELL OUT HIS OWN TRIBE RIOT SRS WTF

Sorry about this rant, but I just have so much beef with the Riot lore department, lol

On September 27 2013 14:22 Requizen wrote:

*ahem*

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On September 27 2013 14:45 UniversalSnip wrote:
she's supposed to be the derpy female lol ripoff of the joker, I don't know what you guys expect.

On September 27 2013 14:50 PrinceXizor wrote:

* Harley Quinn* Shaco is the joker rip-off.

On September 27 2013 14:58 UniversalSnip wrote:

No, he isn't, lol. I mean, he might be, but if so he completely fails at it because he only hits the 'killer clown' archetype and completely fails to rip off the other aspects of the joker, which are numerous and significant. If shaco had been even vaguely a success in that mission they wouldn't be revisiting the concept like this, although, again, I don't think shaco is supposed to be the joker, because I don't think shaco is all that well thought out.

She's much more joker than harley. For starters, look at her competence and independence, and her abuse of the public forum (notice how the joker is obsessed with manipulating the media?), or the 'this changes all the rules' backstory.

On September 27 2013 15:04 PrinceXizor wrote:

Riots kind of known for making nods to other lore physically and in skins rather than in backstory/personality, unless its a literary reference.
From: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Shaco/SkinsTrivia

-His story's description of him as "Valoran's first fully functioning homicidal comic" is a direct reference to Tim Burtons's Batman where Joker describes himself as "the worlds first fully-functioning homicidal artist".

-His taunt "Why so serious?" is a reference to The Dark Knight, being the famous catchphrase uttered by The Joker throughout the movie.

On September 27 2013 15:08 UniversalSnip wrote:
Like I said, he might be intended to be, although those references really don't do anything to push me toward that idea, but if so he's a complete failure at it. I'm pretty sure most people don't think of the joker as a midget in plaid, because that contradicts his character traits and his style, which are pretty well reflected in what I'm seeing of jinx.

On September 27 2013 15:09 PrinceXizor wrote:

If you expect deep correlations to be riots goal you'll be disappointed at every step. they only every give a cursory nod to things. Like Alhazred and Malzahar. Fully expect Harley Quinn References in her quotes.

i'm not saying you are wrong about Jinx being more like the joker than Shaco. But don't expect "joker" to be the direction Riot takes. she's going to be Riot's Harley.