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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
September 27 2013 07:58 GMT
#5721
Fizz gives me the amazing power to Lift teams to wins. The more I play him, the more I think Playful/Trickster needs to be removed from the game.... Or atleast not be a sub 4 second CD at end game.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
September 27 2013 08:11 GMT
#5722
What the fuck if these numbers are real and Jinx has 500+ atk range then she is going to be worse than post-release Graves for sure.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 27 2013 08:13 GMT
#5723
On September 27 2013 17:11 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
What the fuck if these numbers are real and Jinx has 500+ atk range then she is going to be worse than post-release Graves for sure.

I haven't seen her Base stats to see as i don't have the PBE. all we know without checking that is she has 600 range without rockets. Base stats are enough to make or break a champion. Lucian has a fine kit for a carry but he has some of the worst base stats of the pool and so he's not exceptionally useful.
Kontossis
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada256 Posts
September 27 2013 08:15 GMT
#5724
On September 27 2013 17:13 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 17:11 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
What the fuck if these numbers are real and Jinx has 500+ atk range then she is going to be worse than post-release Graves for sure.

I haven't seen her Base stats to see as i don't have the PBE. all we know without checking that is she has 600 range without rockets. Base stats are enough to make or break a champion. Lucian has a fine kit for a carry but he has some of the worst base stats of the pool and so he's not exceptionally useful.


Jinx has 525 range... 600 is her rocket launcher stance attack range at level 1. Stays at 525 in minigun form.
Nom nom nom...
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 08:17:26
September 27 2013 08:17 GMT
#5725
On September 27 2013 17:15 Kontossis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 17:13 PrinceXizor wrote:
On September 27 2013 17:11 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote:
What the fuck if these numbers are real and Jinx has 500+ atk range then she is going to be worse than post-release Graves for sure.

I haven't seen her Base stats to see as i don't have the PBE. all we know without checking that is she has 600 range without rockets. Base stats are enough to make or break a champion. Lucian has a fine kit for a carry but he has some of the worst base stats of the pool and so he's not exceptionally useful.


Jinx has 525 range... 600 is her rocket launcher stance attack range at level 1. Stays at 525 in minigun form.

Ah the tooltip says 600 as range underneath minigun. which is where i misunderstood.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 27 2013 08:17 GMT
#5726
On September 27 2013 15:46 JonnyLaw wrote:
Hey guys, can we not resort to personal attacks and name calling? It's no fun to read. I enjoy reading this thread, albeit not much of what Xizor posts. He's been reprimanded already and could be again. No need to act childish.


yah i should just pretend he's not there like everyone else does, save myself some grief

User was temp banned for this post.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 27 2013 08:29 GMT
#5727
On September 27 2013 16:58 Cixah wrote:
Fizz gives me the amazing power to Lift teams to wins. The more I play him, the more I think Playful/Trickster needs to be removed from the game.... Or atleast not be a sub 4 second CD at end game.

Playful/Trickster is just the best move in the game :/ As if it also needs to be an AoE and to slow and to jump over walls
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
September 27 2013 08:33 GMT
#5728
playful trickster is the most annoying shit ever. - signed by brand player

anywho, been playing annie support a bit in normals and asides from the fact that she's a bit squishy early, she does A LOT of damage from the support position once she gets some levels.
BW -> League -> CSGO
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 08:41:34
September 27 2013 08:39 GMT
#5729
Fun way to screw with Fizz FOTMers: Pick Lux and toss your shield at him. Watch them all break their backs trying to dodge something thye can't get hit by to impress senpai.

On September 27 2013 15:41 PrinceXizor wrote:
Probably the best part of the whole Jinx Release:

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Vi

wave you might want to click that link.

Billionty years old.


In other news, rocket stance Jinx gonna stack tear crazy fast.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 27 2013 08:44 GMT
#5730
Hello there! I know I'm not the great and powerful gypsylord but I hope it will suffice that I'm jinx's concept & splash artist

I dreamed up jinx over a year ago now, I pitched her because there weren't any champions in LoL just yet who met my desires for a completely insane female villain champion, we have some ladies on the side of no-good but I really wanted a girl who is totally beyond any kind of reform or rehabilitation, I drew a lot of inspiration from the joker character (especially heath ledger's joker) and also gollum form lord of the rings, and a bit of helena bonham carter because she plays crazy people really well!

P.S. I also really wanted to introduce a different female silhouette & body type with jinx :D

Hope that helped!!
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
September 27 2013 08:46 GMT
#5731
On September 27 2013 17:44 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
Hello there! I know I'm not the great and powerful gypsylord but I hope it will suffice that I'm jinx's concept & splash artist

I dreamed up jinx over a year ago now, I pitched her because there weren't any champions in LoL just yet who met my desires for a completely insane female villain champion, we have some ladies on the side of no-good but I really wanted a girl who is totally beyond any kind of reform or rehabilitation, I drew a lot of inspiration from the joker character (especially heath ledger's joker) and also gollum form lord of the rings, and a bit of helena bonham carter because she plays crazy people really well!

P.S. I also really wanted to introduce a different female silhouette & body type with jinx :D

Hope that helped!!

cool inspired by joker, turned into harley quinn. thanks that explains the split between joker in attitude and voice acting making her harley.

User was temp banned for this post.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 27 2013 08:54 GMT
#5732
On September 27 2013 17:33 wussleeQ wrote:
playful trickster is the most annoying shit ever. - signed every league player

anywho, been playing annie support a bit in normals and asides from the fact that she's a bit squishy early, she does A LOT of damage from the support position once she gets some levels.

FTFY
Glorious SEA doto
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 09:12:25
September 27 2013 09:06 GMT
#5733
Maokai counters Fizz btw, his snare will lag until Fizz lands, it's impossible to dodge. Just wait and see us seeing everyone picking jungle Maokai to counter Fizz.

On September 27 2013 17:46 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2013 17:44 UniversalSnip wrote:
Hello there! I know I'm not the great and powerful gypsylord but I hope it will suffice that I'm jinx's concept & splash artist

I dreamed up jinx over a year ago now, I pitched her because there weren't any champions in LoL just yet who met my desires for a completely insane female villain champion, we have some ladies on the side of no-good but I really wanted a girl who is totally beyond any kind of reform or rehabilitation, I drew a lot of inspiration from the joker character (especially heath ledger's joker) and also gollum form lord of the rings, and a bit of helena bonham carter because she plays crazy people really well!

P.S. I also really wanted to introduce a different female silhouette & body type with jinx :D

Hope that helped!!

cool inspired by joker, turned into harley quinn. thanks that explains the split between joker in attitude and voice acting making her harley.

You've been saying this all the time(not even sure why, what's your point?) but I don't think she sounds anything like that so hmm... Do you just really love DC and want to find similarities?

I thought that her voiceovers were surprisingly good. Usually stuff like this is pretty cringeworthy(Vi's aren't very good in my opinion) but some of her jokes were really good and the voices are really well done overall. Will very likely buy her early and try to become good at her. Hopefully she won't be overpowered as fuck even though it sort of feels like it with the Q and the R(Seriously, AoE Garen ult wtf?)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
September 27 2013 09:13 GMT
#5734
On September 27 2013 18:06 Shikyo wrote:
Maokai counters Fizz btw, his snare will lag until Fizz lands, it's impossible to dodge. Just wait and see us seeing everyone picking jungle Maokai to counter Fizz.

yeah, but then you've got jungle maokai on your team, last time i was fortunate to be teamed up with a maokai he actually started repeatedly asking our top laner to switch roles with him about 10 minutes into the game so he could get some farm and exp.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
September 27 2013 09:14 GMT
#5735
Playful trickster is complete bullshit, combine it with a bit of cdr and a zhonya (and 6item GA for even more rage) and you have a perma-invincible champion that one-shots everybody with absolutely 0 ways of countering/outplaying him. Fizz will be changed, it's a bit sad that it took so much time for pros to figure out how batshit OP he is. I mean being an assassin killing people while being squishy blabla is fine but NOT when you're invincible/can hop over walls/disengage easily. Ahri and Zed can disengage too but at least you can kill them (and living shadow is a way longer cd).
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
September 27 2013 09:15 GMT
#5736
That's a bad jungler, not a bad champion. Maokai is the shit.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 27 2013 09:16 GMT
#5737
At least for soloq there are quite a few things that destroy fizz but nobody plays like mid kennen, kayle (prob skill mu but heavily in kayle's favour), riven (well common now) and ofc dunkmaster darius.

Was on purpleside the other day and our firstpick took fizz with the remark:"lolol they didnt ban or fp fizz" proceeded to go 0/5 in lane vs enem darius even after i asked him if he wants to swap with my liss top to lane afainst nidalee which quite an easy lane for fizz.
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
September 27 2013 09:16 GMT
#5738
To absolutely everyone on EUW who's up for TL Inhouses, I take the burden of organising them, cf. this post.
I got five reasons for you to shut up
Shadowpostin
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany798 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-27 09:17:55
September 27 2013 09:17 GMT
#5739
On September 27 2013 18:06 Shikyo wrote:
Maokai counters Fizz btw, his snare will lag until Fizz lands, it's impossible to dodge. Just wait and see us seeing everyone picking jungle Maokai to counter Fizz.

"counters" is a pretty loose term because the snare can backfire pretty badly.
you can end up porting yourself into a tower or the whole enemy team,while your team is 3 flashes away.
allow me to demonstrate the skill of shaolin
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
September 27 2013 09:21 GMT
#5740
On September 27 2013 18:15 Osmoses wrote:
That's a bad jungler, not a bad champion. Maokai is the shit.

yeah obviously he was terrible, but regardless of player skill, i'm pretty sure maokai is legit awful at clearing camps.
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