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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
On September 27 2013 00:49 Requizen wrote: That's because SV just broken lol. Also sometimes you need 0 MR because Zed mid and no one knows to pick AP jungle/top This happens so often in Bronze. Going full armor Renekton is my new favorite thing. | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4123 Posts
On September 27 2013 00:56 Roffles wrote: Stop calling Req bad when your ideas are bad too. Aaaaand there goes the logic... | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On September 27 2013 01:00 Requizen wrote: Didn't they drop a game to Coast in that one tourney? Considering how dominant C9 is and how much lower the rest of the teams were (even if C9 doesn't compare to the international teams), if Quantic isn't steamrolling as hard as C9 did it's kind of hard to call. They were 0-2'd by Coast and VES, though to be fair, only Loco had a level 30 account. | ||
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Advocado
Denmark994 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
I'm pretty sure logic flew out the door when he mentioned IE on nasus. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On September 27 2013 01:02 Lord Tolkien wrote: They were 0-2'd by Coast and VES, though to be fair, only Loco had a level 30 account. I don't remember the games being particularly close either lol. Though it's a fair assessment. I'm interested to see how they perform with full accounts, but at the same time I find it hard to believe that they'll go from 0-4 in a tourney to dominating the NA scene just because of Runes/Masteries. I think they'll be a strong contender and one of the top teams, but there's clearly room to improve. | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4123 Posts
On September 27 2013 01:07 wei2coolman wrote: I'm pretty sure logic flew out the door when he mentioned IE on nasus. That was Ketara right? Maybe he thought Q could crit. Although that was removed like 6 patches ago I think? | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On September 27 2013 01:10 Fildun wrote: That was Ketara right? Maybe he thought Q could crit. Although that was removed like 6 patches ago I think? It used to be able to, though that was a bug. IE is potentially a good late game item on Nasus to be fair. Once you can tank 5 people and just sit on a Withered AD autoing and Qing, it's going to be amazing. But as a 1 or 2 item timing that's kind of... not a good idea. | ||
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Fildun
Netherlands4123 Posts
On September 27 2013 01:12 Requizen wrote: It used to be able to, though that was a bug. IE is potentially a good late game item on Nasus to be fair. Once you can tank 5 people and just sit on a Withered AD autoing and Qing, it's going to be amazing. But as a 1 or 2 item timing that's kind of... not a good idea. Isn't Last Whisper way better in a situation like that? Because that actually scales with Q stacks. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Triforce provides rounded offensive stats in 1 item, which is generally the highest number of slots Nasus can commit to a purely offensive item. BotRK is the most obvious competitor for "single slot damage item with rounded offensive stats" but for obvious reasons has poorer interactions with Nasus' kit. | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On September 26 2013 23:44 SnK-Arcbound wrote: This should be a nice topic; who whould be replaced on the NA teams? I think everyone on curse should be replaced. Honerable mention to voyboy because I think with some better training he could come back, but SV, cop, and Jacky just can't pull their weight. TSM should replace Regi and TOO. I'm a little weary on Dyrus and Xpecial, because dyrus usually eats all the shit from the enemy team since regi can't win lane, and xpecial is obviously doing well with turtle. Dig should replace everyone. Not a single player is up to standards. I have no idea how vulcan even wins games, except that the teams they play against are even worse then they are. Replace TOO? He was by far TSM's most consistent player at Worlds, with the exception of one game (vs OMG or SKT, forget which) he was rock solid in every game, basically the reason TSM didn't go 0-20 every game. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 27 2013 01:09 Requizen wrote: I don't remember the games being particularly close either lol. Though it's a fair assessment. I'm interested to see how they perform with full accounts, but at the same time I find it hard to believe that they'll go from 0-4 in a tourney to dominating the NA scene just because of Runes/Masteries. I think they'll be a strong contender and one of the top teams, but there's clearly room to improve. You'd be surprised what lack of runes of masteries can do in a game. It's a HUGE amount of early gold deficit worth of stats. And then that snow balls even harder throughout the game. Pretty much all your lanes are relegated to avoiding ALLL trades in lane because no matter how well they fight it out in a lane trade, they always come out behind because lack of runes/masteries. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On September 27 2013 01:09 Requizen wrote: I don't remember the games being particularly close either lol. Though it's a fair assessment. I'm interested to see how they perform with full accounts, but at the same time I find it hard to believe that they'll go from 0-4 in a tourney to dominating the NA scene just because of Runes/Masteries. I think they'll be a strong contender and one of the top teams, but there's clearly room to improve. I'm skeptical about the strong contender part. I am highly doubtful of their ability to perform. Given Quantic consists of players whom were "bottom of the barrel", so to speak, given their inability to make it in OGN, and overall unimpressive play, I'm inclined to refuse boarding a Quantic hype train (which that the ggLA tourney unsurprisingly derailed, in any event). Don't get me wrong, NA has plenty of problems in competitive (that we can hopefully sort out the next year for S4), but I have enough faith that NA teams can beat a team of 3rd/4th tier KR pros. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
The problem is that currently the way the teams are, the old blood sticks to itself, and the new blood sticks to itself, meaning that the new blood doesn't get to draw on the experience of the older players, while the older players don't get to lean on the talent of the newer players. The scene develops most healthily if you have teams that are like 2 older players with 3 younger talented players, because that fosters the growth of the younger players in the long run, while utilizing the experience of the older players for shot-calling/drafting in the short term. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On September 27 2013 01:15 Lord Tolkien wrote: I'm skeptical about the strong contender part. I am highly doubtful of their ability to perform. Given Quantic consists of players whom were "bottom of the barrel", so to speak, given their inability to make it in OGN, and overall unimpressive play, I'm inclined to refuse boarding a Quantic hype train (which that the ggLA tourney unsurprisingly derailed, in any event). Don't get me wrong, NA has plenty of problems in competitive (that we can hopefully sort out the next year for S4), but I have enough faith that NA teams can beat a team of 3rd/4th tier KR pros. This is the feeling I'm getting too. They have potential, especially if they keep up KOR discipline and style, but it's not like NJS or SKT coming to NA. On September 27 2013 01:14 wei2coolman wrote: You'd be surprised what lack of runes of masteries can do in a game. It's a HUGE amount of early gold deficit worth of stats. And then that snow balls even harder throughout the game. Pretty much all your lanes are relegated to avoiding ALLL trades in lane because no matter how well they fight it out in a lane trade, they always come out behind because lack of runes/masteries. While this is true, if they really were a top contender team, they'd have enough game sense and patience to play a game and beat one of two relegated teams at least once. Time will tell though. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
On September 26 2013 22:15 Thermia wrote: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2jP6vZC.jpg) I think I've ascended to the point where everything comes full circle from bronze; teemo top, gragas support that rushed a ga after sightstone, and two people with "x is god" usernames... that gragas used to play top gragas and wreck people with it. on top of that, support gragas isn't the worst support ever... attack speed slow, slow, displacement and a lot of tankiness/damage for a support. as for the ga on him idk lol he's always built sorta weird imo ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/NQ3bEvk.png) | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 27 2013 01:19 Nos- wrote: Teams are also reluctant to let go of old players even if they underperform, due to their popularity with the audience. I understand the reasoning for it, it just contributes to why NA is uncompetitive. The streamer culture in NA is integral to why LoL was successful and still key to its popularity, but also does inhibit its competitive growth on NA. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On September 27 2013 01:23 TheYango wrote: I understand the reasoning for it, it just contributes to why NA is uncompetitive. The streamer culture in NA is integral to why LoL was successful and still key to its popularity, but also does inhibit its competitive growth on NA. Partially why I was rather impressed when HSGG stepped down. I'm not his biggest fan, but it takes a fair amount of composure and modesty to step down as the face of an organization for the betterment of the team. Sadly it didn't do enough to help them :\ | ||
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