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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 27 2013 00:24 Seuss wrote: NA shotcalling is awful. Most teams make really bad calls (either by doing something when they shouldn't, or doing nothing when they should) unless their shot caller or team is clearly ahead. NA barons pls. I feel like it's such an advantage that C9 has lemonation and meteos as it's clear their shots are a billion times better than all of NA. On September 27 2013 00:26 Requizen wrote: I don't really follow specific players and what not, I just watch the games and cheer for favorites. I always feel so left out of these discussions If it's American and not C9 hate on it. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
whenver i watch this video i notice Zuna's terrible Net+Peacemaker which he not only misses but also puts him out of autoattack range. | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On September 27 2013 00:26 Fusilero wrote: I do agree that MR itemisation is still pretty bad, I've somtimes just gotten an aegis on shen/zac because I need more MR and SV is already finished so I was just going "urm". Well I suppose there is wits end but that's a shen only thing. Wit's just feels underwhelming anymore, even though math will probably show that it's still quite good. The thing is, most champs it's good on (Udyr, Shen, etc), do much better with SV because it's so batshit OP right now, and you really want more tank stats than dumping lots of gold into AS. It's really good on AP Bruiser Teemo tho  | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
This is PX level stupidity. Iceborne gauntlet is a 3250 gold item that, if you already have Trinity, gives 70 armor, 500 mana, 30 AP and 10% CDR. Glacial Shroud and a Cutlass are giving you 45 armor, 300 mana, 25 AD, 12% lifesteal, 10% CDR and also giving you a slow. For 2750 gold. With the extra 500g you can throw in an amp tome if that 30 AP is oh so important to you. Do not build Trinity + IBG. Just stop. Stop. Please stop. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 27 2013 00:28 AsmodeusXI wrote: BloodWater's shotcalling isn't terrible, but as shown by Vul v. Gambit sometimes "not terrible" means "only terrible every so often, but then REALLY terrible." Bloodwater's calls are inconsistent, it can be clear when he's on point when vulcan just run a team over with the advantages xmithie creates but it's not uncommon for them to stall themselves for no reason or go full American. Still bloodwater has made the team do it less than average for NA. | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On September 26 2013 23:56 onlywonderboy wrote: I think you're jumping the gun on Curse as a team. I think Jacky needs some time off. Move Voy Mid and bring in Rhux for Top. I'd like to see how that iteration of the team works out. Everyone is so quick to jump on Saint, but he was playing bad before the LCS started, did really well in Spring, and then played bad in Summer. He's totally able to rebound, so I think it's fair to give him more time. I think Cop played pretty well in the Summer split as well along with EDward. If EDward leaves this creates much more problems for Curse. StV needs a lot of work. How can you not have smite timings down after 2 years playing the game, and calling yourself a professional LoL player? Jiji is currently better at smiting than StV. Jiji, who has only played as a jungler for around six months and role switched from mid is better at smiting than StV. Doesn't that make you question exactly what StV actually does? Smiting under pressure is definitely difficult, but it isn't something that should be difficult to learn. This is something that definitely should be easy to correct as a flaw in your game. It's not as if Riot is even hiding damage numbers with smite anymore. They have it directly listed on the skill. It confuses me that StV doesn't get more flak from Curse fans | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On September 27 2013 00:29 Fusilero wrote: Bloodwater's calls are inconsistent, it can be clear when he's on point when vulcan just run a team over with the advantages xmithie creates but it's not uncommon for them to stall themselves for no reason or go full American. Still bloodwater has made the team do it less than average for NA. I blame Zuna. I can just picture him yelling "WILDCARD BITCHES" and Rocket Jumping into 4 members of the enemy team. | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On September 27 2013 00:29 Ketara wrote: No Requizen, no. This is PX level stupidity. Iceborne gauntlet is a 3250 gold item that, if you already have Trinity, gives 70 armor, 500 mana, 30 AP and 10% CDR. Glacial Shroud and a Cutlass are giving you 45 armor, 300 mana, 25 AD, 12% lifesteal, 10% CDR and also giving you a slow. For 2750 gold. Do not build Trinity + IBG. Just stop. Stop. Please stop. Much like comparing a politician to Hitler, let's not whip out the PX label so quickly. Plus, even PX is right sometimes. No need to be rude. On September 27 2013 00:31 onlywonderboy wrote: I blame Zuna. I can just picture him yelling "WILDCARD BITCHES" and Rocket Jumping into 4 members of the enemy team. | ||
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Paegan
United States75 Posts
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 27 2013 00:31 onlywonderboy wrote: I blame Zuna. I can just picture him yelling "WILDCARD BITCHES" and Rocket Jumping into 4 members of the enemy team. I think zuna is still on the team is because xmithie and mancloud play league on hard mode. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On September 27 2013 00:31 AsmodeusXI wrote: Much like comparing a politician to Hitler, let's not whip out the PX label so quickly. Plus, even PX is right sometimes. No need to be rude. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HxwQwujqzM I have been carried by an Ohmwrecker and a support Warwick. I also saw support Wolf on Qtpie's stream. I must say PX is truly an innovator. | ||
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On September 27 2013 00:33 Roffles wrote: I have been carried by an Ohmwrecker and a support Warwick. I also saw support Wolf on Qtpie's stream. I must say PX is truly an innovator. Let the record show that Roffles said in Skype today, AND I QUOTE, "gonna spend the day trollin GD huehuehue" | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On September 27 2013 00:27 Fusilero wrote: NA barons pls. I feel like it's such an advantage that C9 has lemonation and meteos as it's clear their shots are a billion times better than all of NA. If it's American and not C9 hate on it. TSM because I think Dyrus is just such a cool dude. On September 27 2013 00:29 Ketara wrote: No Requizen, no. This is PX level stupidity. Iceborne gauntlet is a 3250 gold item that, if you already have Trinity, gives 70 armor, 500 mana, 30 AP and 10% CDR. Glacial Shroud and a Cutlass are giving you 45 armor, 300 mana, 25 AD, 12% lifesteal, 10% CDR and also giving you a slow. For 2750 gold. With the extra 500g you can throw in an amp tome if that 30 AP is oh so important to you. Do not build Trinity + IBG. Just stop. Stop. Please stop. I'd tend to disagree on that. Why would Nasus want a Cutlass, or for that matter a FMallet? If he's getting TF as a "single damage item", IBG offers him team utility in a slow and a good chunk of Armor and Mana (useful for E and Q spam in long fights). As I said, it's a very small number of champions that could use it. Bruiser Nid is also likely not going to build TF + Glacial + Cutlass, the Cutlass/BotRK item is superfluous for her at best. I'm also not advocating that TF/IBG is the best item combo. FH is often a better choice than IBG for a CDR/Mana/Armor combo. However, if you don't particularly need the AS slow and would like a slow, it's an option. The AP is generally superfluous, but it would be silly to get Glacial/Cutlass/Amp on a character that has little need for AD or Lifesteal. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 27 2013 00:36 Ketara wrote: I am willing to take back my PX comment if Requizen is willing to never say IBG+Trinity again. I present an alternative solution, 1v1. You pick two items of your choice and req goes IBG + Trinity. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On September 27 2013 00:36 Ketara wrote: I am willing to take back my PX comment if Requizen is willing to never say IBG+Trinity again. On September 26 2013 21:31 NeoIllusions wrote: Trinity/Visage/IBG, you're a beast. Let the record show that Ketara accuses His Darkness of PX status. | ||
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ketchup
14521 Posts
On September 27 2013 00:36 Ketara wrote: I am willing to take back my PX comment if Requizen is willing to never say IBG+Trinity again. How about not being insulting to other members of the TL LoL community? Especially when the said person isn't even remotely involved in the discussion. Let's be honest, you wouldn't want it done to you, so don't do it to others please. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On September 27 2013 00:37 Requizen wrote: TSM because I think Dyrus is just such a cool dude. I'd tend to disagree on that. Why would Nasus want a Cutlass, or for that matter a FMallet? If he's getting TF as a "single damage item", IBG offers him team utility in a slow and a good chunk of Armor and Mana (useful for E and Q spam in long fights). As I said, it's a very small number of champions that could use it. Bruiser Nid is also likely not going to build TF + Glacial + Cutlass, the Cutlass/BotRK item is superfluous for her at best. I'm also not advocating that TF/IBG is the best item combo. FH is often a better choice than IBG for a CDR/Mana/Armor combo. However, if you don't particularly need the AS slow and would like a slow, it's an option. The AP is generally superfluous, but it would be silly to get Glacial/Cutlass/Amp on a character that has little need for AD or Lifesteal. Why would Nasus want a Trinity Force? If you're building two damage items on a Nasus and the first is IBG, get IBG + Infinity Edge. IE is going to outdamage Trinity on a Nasus and you don't need the extra movespeed from Trinity when you have Wither and the IBG slow. If you're building a Trinity Force, get Trinity + Frozen Heart, don't get IBG. Nasus already has a huge slow, doesn't need AP, and FH gives more armor and more CDR. And why would bruiser Nid not want a BotRK? Please stop. | ||
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