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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 24 2013 13:08 GMT
#4821
Xerath is so good on eu atm.With kassa/fizz/ahri/zed pretty much banned every game there aren't even that many champs left to shut him down.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-24 13:12:18
September 24 2013 13:12 GMT
#4822
On September 24 2013 22:08 Alaric wrote:
There's already a Liss thread iirc.

Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 21:59 phyvo wrote:
I want to finish my placement matches before ranked ends but I am literally too scared to do so. halp!

yolo it up, doesn't matter where you end as long as you just finish the placements o/

Fizz and Diana have MR/level, which doesn't bother me since they're melee. However, I'm left wondering why Maokai doesn't. >_>

Probably lore reasons. Magic has been his nemesis, defeating him at every turn.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 24 2013 13:13 GMT
#4823
On September 24 2013 22:05 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I think Liss is another one of those heroes that look and feel really good when you're winning and is pretty bad when you're losing. See: Xerath, for example


Yes and no. She does feel kinda rough when you're behind, but unless you're REALLY behind, then you can make it up through team fighting wisely (pretty standard for most mages).

She's also awesome for really saying "nope" to the assassin meta that's going on.

On September 24 2013 22:03 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 22:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Upon actually learning the champion, I have determined that Lissandra is batshit op.

Play IHs today as Liss. tyvm


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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 24 2013 13:16 GMT
#4824
soniv, how often do you self-ult on Liss? I feel like I ult the enemy 95% of the time. even if I initiate 1v4.
Lounge
Profile Joined November 2011
537 Posts
September 24 2013 13:17 GMT
#4825
On September 24 2013 22:08 Alaric wrote:
There's already a Liss thread iirc.

Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 21:59 phyvo wrote:
I want to finish my placement matches before ranked ends but I am literally too scared to do so. halp!

yolo it up, doesn't matter where you end as long as you just finish the placements o/

Fizz and Diana have MR/level, which doesn't bother me since they're melee. However, I'm left wondering why Maokai doesn't. >_>


The same reason Gragas/Poppy/Shen/Singed don't. Riot is inconsistent.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 24 2013 13:19 GMT
#4826
On September 24 2013 22:16 AsnSensation wrote:
soniv, how often do you self-ult on Liss? I feel like I ult the enemy 95% of the time. even if I initiate 1v4.


Depends entirely on the circumstances. And I still also struggle with making that decision.

There have been times I E into the middle, W, self ult, and then proceed from there. Other times I wait until an assassin tried to come for me or the AD carry and freeze them before they can actually do anything.

There's not really an all-encompassing answer.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 24 2013 13:27 GMT
#4827
Welp, I thought Maokai was the only one. I remembered others like Amumu didn't have it (or it was a bit less, like 0.75/level instead of 1.25?) and these were changed in pretty old patches. Knew Singed lacked MR because of the huge long-duration steroid on his ult.
I wonder how I missed it for Shen tho. ._.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
September 24 2013 13:31 GMT
#4828
A Lissandra who's ahead is really strong, much like a Kassadin.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 24 2013 13:37 GMT
#4829
On September 24 2013 22:31 Osmoses wrote:
A Lissandra who's ahead is really strong, much like a Kassadin.


She feels a lot like Annie with her ult. Except she has a built in, low CD "flash". So there's that.
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Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
September 24 2013 13:42 GMT
#4830
On September 24 2013 22:08 nafta wrote:
Xerath is so good on eu atm.With kassa/fizz/ahri/zed pretty much banned every game there aren't even that many champs left to shut him down.

Exactly. With those four banned the mid playing field is pretty even right now. I've been pulling out an old favorite of mine, Evelynn mid, with great success.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 24 2013 13:45 GMT
#4831
On September 24 2013 22:42 Fildun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 22:08 nafta wrote:
Xerath is so good on eu atm.With kassa/fizz/ahri/zed pretty much banned every game there aren't even that many champs left to shut him down.

Exactly. With those four banned the mid playing field is pretty even right now. I've been pulling out an old favorite of mine, Evelynn mid, with great success.


You're literally worse than hitler
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Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-24 13:48:24
September 24 2013 13:47 GMT
#4832
On September 24 2013 22:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 22:42 Fildun wrote:
On September 24 2013 22:08 nafta wrote:
Xerath is so good on eu atm.With kassa/fizz/ahri/zed pretty much banned every game there aren't even that many champs left to shut him down.

Exactly. With those four banned the mid playing field is pretty even right now. I've been pulling out an old favorite of mine, Evelynn mid, with great success.


You're literally worse than hitler

Yup. But I enjoy it.

And it's a great way to carry those noobs who go Atma's first on jungle Nocturne. Gold I ladies and gentlemen.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
September 24 2013 13:50 GMT
#4833
On September 24 2013 22:47 Fildun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 22:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 24 2013 22:42 Fildun wrote:
On September 24 2013 22:08 nafta wrote:
Xerath is so good on eu atm.With kassa/fizz/ahri/zed pretty much banned every game there aren't even that many champs left to shut him down.

Exactly. With those four banned the mid playing field is pretty even right now. I've been pulling out an old favorite of mine, Evelynn mid, with great success.


You're literally worse than hitler

Yup. But I enjoy it.

And it's a great way to carry those noobs who go Atma's first on jungle Nocturne. Gold I ladies and gentlemen.


So did Hitler.

Also I'm the most sad that I can't even reach Gold 1 when people are still buying Atma's at all at "that high level."

I'M SO BAD.

For S4, Riot pls make all items viable. That would be kewl.
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Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-24 13:55:14
September 24 2013 13:54 GMT
#4834
On September 24 2013 22:50 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 22:47 Fildun wrote:
On September 24 2013 22:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 24 2013 22:42 Fildun wrote:
On September 24 2013 22:08 nafta wrote:
Xerath is so good on eu atm.With kassa/fizz/ahri/zed pretty much banned every game there aren't even that many champs left to shut him down.

Exactly. With those four banned the mid playing field is pretty even right now. I've been pulling out an old favorite of mine, Evelynn mid, with great success.


You're literally worse than hitler

Yup. But I enjoy it.

And it's a great way to carry those noobs who go Atma's first on jungle Nocturne. Gold I ladies and gentlemen.


So did Hitler.

Also I'm the most sad that I can't even reach Gold 1 when people are still buying Atma's at all at "that high level."

I'M SO BAD.

For S4, Riot pls make all items viable. That would be kewl.

Lets just remove the whole shop system. Now you can instantly buy stat boosts with your gold.
The sad thing is that I could actually see that happening.

Also what role(s) do you main?
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 24 2013 14:00 GMT
#4835
If you can see Riot removing the shop system entirely you're a silly, silly man.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
September 24 2013 14:01 GMT
#4836
On September 24 2013 23:00 Ketara wrote:
If you can see Riot removing the shop system entirely you're a silly, silly man.

If they hold a poll exclusively for Silver and Bronze users and 60% votes yes they would do it.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
September 24 2013 14:01 GMT
#4837
I bought Fizz. I played him. I feel dirty.

Time to go back to real manliness.
The legend of Darien lives on
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-24 14:11:24
September 24 2013 14:11 GMT
#4838
On September 24 2013 22:27 Alaric wrote:
Welp, I thought Maokai was the only one. I remembered others like Amumu didn't have it (or it was a bit less, like 0.75/level instead of 1.25?) and these were changed in pretty old patches. Knew Singed lacked MR because of the huge long-duration steroid on his ult.
I wonder how I missed it for Shen tho. ._.

When they were doing their pass-through to make MR growths more consistent (melee = MR/lvl, ranged = no MR/lvl), Shen was too strong (as he always is) so they probably didn't feel comfortable buffing him.

Singed, yeah, it's probably due to his steroid (fun fact: Singed also technically has the lowest base HP of any melee champion, except once you factor in his passive it's not anywhere close)

Riot got rid of the "hybrid MR growth" that was halfway between melee and ranged, at least. All hybrid champs -- nid, kayle, jayce -- now have 0 MR/lvl. (probably because they were OP at some point or another)

poppy probably doesn't have it because they're not touching her until the rework that's going to come sometime in S5 (haha joke, but if you asked me to guess when it was coming I'd say S5)

I dunno why maokai doesn't have it ._.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 24 2013 14:11 GMT
#4839
faker killing hotshot while being half the map away.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-24 14:13:24
September 24 2013 14:12 GMT
#4840
On September 24 2013 22:54 Fildun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2013 22:50 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On September 24 2013 22:47 Fildun wrote:
On September 24 2013 22:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 24 2013 22:42 Fildun wrote:
On September 24 2013 22:08 nafta wrote:
Xerath is so good on eu atm.With kassa/fizz/ahri/zed pretty much banned every game there aren't even that many champs left to shut him down.

Exactly. With those four banned the mid playing field is pretty even right now. I've been pulling out an old favorite of mine, Evelynn mid, with great success.


You're literally worse than hitler

Yup. But I enjoy it.

And it's a great way to carry those noobs who go Atma's first on jungle Nocturne. Gold I ladies and gentlemen.


So did Hitler.

Also I'm the most sad that I can't even reach Gold 1 when people are still buying Atma's at all at "that high level."

I'M SO BAD.

For S4, Riot pls make all items viable. That would be kewl.

Lets just remove the whole shop system. Now you can instantly buy stat boosts with your gold.
The sad thing is that I could actually see that happening.

Also what role(s) do you main?


Support and Jungle. Not in that order.

On September 24 2013 23:00 Ketara wrote:
If you can see Riot removing the shop system entirely you're a silly, silly man.


SEASON 4 PREDICTION: At certain levels of play you don't buy things. When you get enough gold you just GET a Triforce (or w/e, probably a Triforce). It's a feature. Don't worry about it. Only Silver and Bronze.

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