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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 24 2013 15:40 GMT
#4861
I'm thinking about making an anti LB/Syndra page for Lissandra that has MR quints, what do you guys think of that?

Hybrid pen/mpen reds (7 and 2), HP/level yellows, MR blues, MR quints. Thoughts?
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 24 2013 15:41 GMT
#4862
On September 25 2013 00:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
ruffles are toxic and have ridges...
sheep are warm and fluffy and cuddly :3


Have you ever cuddled a sheep?

They are not fluffy.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 24 2013 15:43 GMT
#4863
On September 25 2013 00:40 Ketara wrote:
I'm thinking about making an anti LB/Syndra page for Lissandra that has MR quints, what do you guys think of that?

Hybrid pen/mpen reds (7 and 2), HP/level yellows, MR blues, MR quints. Thoughts?


Certainly not a bad thought.

I personally like armor yellows because I like to be aggressive and end up inevitably taking some minions attacks. Not sure if MR quints would reduce your damage too much.

You just have to be careful about going TOO defensive because the assassins can snowball off other lanes, and if you don't offer enough damage early on, you won't be able to do too much to help.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
September 24 2013 15:49 GMT
#4864
On September 24 2013 23:35 Ketara wrote:
Welp, I finally won a lane against Leblanc as Lissandra.

I had to go Flask+3 > Null mantle > Negatron cloak > Chalice and take Barrier, but I won the goddamn lane.

Nothing wrong with going Mercs+Abyssal. Especially if you're double AP
Platinum Support GOD
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 24 2013 15:52 GMT
#4865
Yeah I'll try Mercs+Abyssal next time. Still feel like chalice is a bad buy on her. Soniv is craaaaaaazy.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
September 24 2013 15:54 GMT
#4866
On September 25 2013 00:52 Ketara wrote:
Yeah I'll try Mercs+Abyssal next time. Still feel like chalice is a bad buy on her. Soniv is craaaaaaazy.


I generally get the chalice after codex (CDR on her is REAAAALLLLLYYY GOOOOOOOD), but considering how much I spam my spells, never having to worry about going oom on her once I get athene's is awesome.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
September 24 2013 15:55 GMT
#4867
this world has forgotten true power
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 24 2013 15:57 GMT
#4868
Oh btw i tried dat Karma jungle at it was actually pretty good until Ghandi fed

+ Show Spoiler +
<3
It's your boy Guzma!
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
September 24 2013 16:00 GMT
#4869
Cdr is nice because of the huge E cd. I suppose Morellos would be my source of cdr if i'm going against Kass, Syn, Leb and I need mercs and abyssal
Platinum Support GOD
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-24 16:11:23
September 24 2013 16:09 GMT
#4870
On September 25 2013 00:39 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
ruffles are toxic and have ridges...
sheep are warm and fluffy and cuddly :3

Would you cuddle me?

On September 25 2013 00:55 FinestHour wrote:
this world has forgotten true power

Too many different champions claiming to yield true power.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
September 24 2013 16:10 GMT
#4871
On September 25 2013 00:57 Requizen wrote:
Oh btw i tried dat Karma jungle at it was actually pretty good until Ghandi fed

+ Show Spoiler +
<3


I would never lie 2 u bb
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 24 2013 16:14 GMT
#4872
On September 25 2013 01:10 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2013 00:57 Requizen wrote:
Oh btw i tried dat Karma jungle at it was actually pretty good until Ghandi fed

+ Show Spoiler +
<3


I would never lie 2 u bb

That's a lie

liar
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 24 2013 17:13 GMT
#4873
So I have a question about this current assassin meta. Often times in pro games we see the assassin mids (namely Ahri/Zed/Kass) blow their combo on a support and eliminate them from a fight instantly at the very start. This usually leads to good fights where there is no Sona/Zyra ult, no Thresh combo, etc.

However, does this not somewhat limit the assassin's power past that point, especially when it comes to taking out the high-value squish targets in the ADC or opposing mid?
It's your boy Guzma!
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
September 24 2013 17:25 GMT
#4874
On September 25 2013 02:13 Requizen wrote:
So I have a question about this current assassin meta. Often times in pro games we see the assassin mids (namely Ahri/Zed/Kass) blow their combo on a support and eliminate them from a fight instantly at the very start. This usually leads to good fights where there is no Sona/Zyra ult, no Thresh combo, etc.

However, does this not somewhat limit the assassin's power past that point, especially when it comes to taking out the high-value squish targets in the ADC or opposing mid?


4v5 for a couple of cooldowns is generally worth it, as the one extra player is worth more then ahri ult/dfg most of the time, and you often dont need to use everything to get the kill on them.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-24 17:28:57
September 24 2013 17:28 GMT
#4875
If you're zed you shouldn't use your ultimate in a team fight for a support obviously.... When you assassinate a support it should typically be well before the team fight begins.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
September 24 2013 17:33 GMT
#4876
On September 25 2013 02:13 Requizen wrote:
So I have a question about this current assassin meta. Often times in pro games we see the assassin mids (namely Ahri/Zed/Kass) blow their combo on a support and eliminate them from a fight instantly at the very start. This usually leads to good fights where there is no Sona/Zyra ult, no Thresh combo, etc.

However, does this not somewhat limit the assassin's power past that point, especially when it comes to taking out the high-value squish targets in the ADC or opposing mid?


Not completely related, but I've noticed a higher influx of Fiddlesticks support picks, especially after a mid assassin has been picked. Fear seems too good if you're fast enough to negate a lot of followup damage after the initial burst.

As to answer the question, I'm not completely sure, although straight up killing an impactful support like Zyra/Sona before they get ults off, I can imagine it being worth than straight focusing the ADC and letting the support get their ultis off.
Forever Young
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 24 2013 17:46 GMT
#4877
On September 25 2013 02:13 Requizen wrote:
So I have a question about this current assassin meta. Often times in pro games we see the assassin mids (namely Ahri/Zed/Kass) blow their combo on a support and eliminate them from a fight instantly at the very start. This usually leads to good fights where there is no Sona/Zyra ult, no Thresh combo, etc.

However, does this not somewhat limit the assassin's power past that point, especially when it comes to taking out the high-value squish targets in the ADC or opposing mid?

Well for champs like Ahri and Kass, using their combo on the support doesn't really cripple them that hard. They have reasonably low cooldowns on their burst combos so they can still contribute to the fight after getting rid of the support.

On top of that, if you kill the support, the carry won't have nearly as much peel, making it easier for you or your bruiser to dive and kill/zone the enemy carry.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
September 24 2013 18:19 GMT
#4878
There's also the fact that instakilling the support when there isn't a teamfight instantly following means you have blinded the other team, and it's really hard for them to punish you for cooldowns if they can't see.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 24 2013 18:27 GMT
#4879
I think that supports have become far more squishy due to the Aegis/Locket changes... so instabursting them is a much better strategy... That also makes assassins stronger, I feel.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
September 24 2013 18:27 GMT
#4880
As someone who has interacted with sheep for the past 11.5 months on a daily basis I can confirm they are super awesome, cuddly, AND tasty - YUM.

Baby sheep are also top 10 cutest animals ever.
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