[Patch 3.11] General Discussion - Page 196

On September 19 2013 20:49 kongoline wrote:
afaik qss doesnt stop dmg from maltz ult

On September 19 2013 20:49 kongoline wrote:
afaik qss doesnt stop dmg from maltz ult

On September 19 2013 21:07 NeoIllusions wrote:

But it does clear all the DoTs and allow you to get off Null Zone.
Needlessly to say, QSS hard counters Malz's combo kit.

On September 19 2013 14:38 Ketara wrote:


I don't like the idea of Tear on Lissandra, although to be fair I haven't tried it. But here's my logic on the matter.

#1 - The only skill she can spam to charge tear is Q, since W and E are both long cooldowns and you need to save them in case crazy things happen.

#2 - Spamming Q is how you go oom on Lissandra. Lissandras passive is ridiculous but you have to make use of it correctly. Because her passive recharges between minion waves, and because Q is your farming skill and your high mana skill, if you make your passive-proc a Q that hits all the enemy minions, you'll never go oom when farming even without mana items. If you're spamming Q to charge Tear you're going to end up using your passives on Q's that don't hit much, and you'll go oom even with the extra mana.

Basically the way you farm on her is you hit all the minions with a passive-Q that costs no mana, then walk into the wave and kill them all with W, which has a low mana cost and also drops your passive by 6 seconds because it just hit 6 things.

#3 - Lissandra does damage. Lissandra has the ability to really bully some lane opponents (like AHRI and ZED), but in order to be threatening you need to be building damage on her. That's why I go Dorans Ring > Haunting Guise. This makes me very strong at level 6-9 when I have like, Dorans, Sorc Shoes and an Amp Tome, which is when her damage is comparatively the highest. You get kills in lane when you're doing that, whereas if you do more passive items like I used to do on her, you end up playing very defensive because you don't have enough damage.


It'd be interesting to see a Tear build in bad matchups though, like against Leblanc or Syndra. I really haven't figured out what to do in those lanes yet.

On September 19 2013 21:32 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:


its like 5am neo go to sleep wtf

On September 19 2013 22:32 AsmodeusXI wrote:


He does this shit all the time.

I jungled Aatrox for the first time yesterday and was trolled hard by Diamondprox because I looked up a build he had for the Champ and it maxed E first and then I could never gank because Dark Flight was more like a Dark Hop.

On September 19 2013 22:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:


I will be running more experiments on her in the future. I had a blast playing her.

I did go chalice on her, but I honestly didn't notice having low damage. I was chunking people from pretty early on. I am worried about going DRing because I do play fairly aggressively and end up spamming Q quite a lot, but I'll see what happens if I temper the harass early.

On September 19 2013 22:32 AsmodeusXI wrote:


He does this shit all the time.

I jungled Aatrox for the first time yesterday and was trolled hard by Diamondprox because I looked up a build he had for the Champ and it maxed E first and then I could never gank because Dark Flight was more like a Dark Hop.

On September 19 2013 22:38 Ketara wrote:


We gotta start theorycrafting the shit out of this shit Soniv.

Lissandra is totes OP and I want to make her the OPest OP in OPland.

On September 19 2013 22:34 Gorsameth wrote:
dark flight range doesnt change per rank. Max E has always been the standard be it jungle or lane.

On September 19 2013 22:46 AsmodeusXI wrote:


WELL GODDAMMIT IT FELT LIKE IT DID.

T_T

Honestly, it was probably just because I had a shit day for LoL yesterday. Always lose games, never not lose games.

On September 19 2013 22:52 Ketara wrote:


Every first game I do with a new jungle champion basically everything goes horribly wrong. People don't leash, I die to their jungler at the second buff, miss a baron smite, etc. It is a curse.

On September 19 2013 22:52 Ketara wrote:


Every first game I do with a new jungle champion basically everything goes horribly wrong. People don't leash, I die to their jungler at the second buff, miss a baron smite, etc. It is a curse.

On September 19 2013 22:52 Ketara wrote:


Every first game I do with a new jungle champion basically everything goes horribly wrong. People don't leash, I die to their jungler at the second buff, miss a baron smite, etc. It is a curse.

On September 19 2013 23:03 BobMcJohnson wrote:

Haha, I think it's the same for everybody. First time I tried Vi, the enemy jungler was 3.8 Nunu (which I had never played against, since I had just picked up the game again at the time), when I finally got to level 2 he was already 6+ T.T

On September 19 2013 20:37 Alaric wrote:

You actually said Aatrox was crap at release. Still said he was impossible to balance (but that's your #1 complaint most of the time so it's not hard) but you specifically said that he was badly designed because he was too binary, and that he was trash atm.

On September 19 2013 23:11 cLutZ wrote:


I said probably a little weak. But that was my Experience with him in a PBE environment that has about as much to do with pro play as, breakfast does.

On September 19 2013 23:15 AsmodeusXI wrote:


Breakfast is the most important meal of the day. I bet SKT T1 eats an amazing breakfast every day and that's why they're so good at LoL.

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