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Well, who likes to play akali from the top laners at worlds?
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On September 19 2013 14:29 ProV1 wrote:Pretty sure I've 100% seen Insec jungle lee sin in this korean show thingamujigie in a past episode.
yup here it is+ Show Spoiler +
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Is that a support Katarina game I see in there? lol
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xusic, wot role you main? :o
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On September 19 2013 14:58 miicah wrote:Is that a support Katarina game I see in there? lol
Awww you got me all excited. Sadly its only aram.
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On September 19 2013 14:18 Ryuu314 wrote:I personally never have mana problems as Liss and i dont get tear or chalice. i start flask follow up with 1~2 drings and never have mana issues Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 14:05 Requizen wrote:On September 19 2013 14:00 koreasilver wrote: I've been Aatrox a lot (literally every game I can when I go top) and while going straight tank sucks, I don't think he really needs any more offensive items other than botrk. I've been having a lot of success going either cutlass -> situational defensive in hard lanes or just straight up botrk -> situational defensive. I'm just a gold scrub though. People have told me that Hydra is better with AD scaling and what not, but every game I went Hydra I got rolled and every game I went BotRK I was a murder machine. But then again I'm just a gold scrub  This is honestly how i feel about hydra in general on everyone cept maybe Lee Sin. I just don't think it's honestly that good, especially compared to Bork. I've never really seen anyone get Hydra and think, damn that item's doing work. It's also always been a meh item for me, as well. Whereas Bork is great for assassinating, chasing, fleeing, etc... I know that mathematically in a vacuum Hydra>Bork, but I just don't see the results translated to actual games. Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 14:14 cLutZ wrote: Who stopped playing Aatrox? Who stopped advocating him?
I want to say :p to everyone who poo-poo'd my "Manless + Sustain + Revive Passive can't be balanced" chants. Well Aatrox is basically a shittier version of pre-nerf Zac and now that Zac is out of the way Aatrox can shine.
As if ZAC still isn't hard to balance.
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On September 19 2013 15:11 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 14:18 Ryuu314 wrote:I personally never have mana problems as Liss and i dont get tear or chalice. i start flask follow up with 1~2 drings and never have mana issues On September 19 2013 14:05 Requizen wrote:On September 19 2013 14:00 koreasilver wrote: I've been Aatrox a lot (literally every game I can when I go top) and while going straight tank sucks, I don't think he really needs any more offensive items other than botrk. I've been having a lot of success going either cutlass -> situational defensive in hard lanes or just straight up botrk -> situational defensive. I'm just a gold scrub though. People have told me that Hydra is better with AD scaling and what not, but every game I went Hydra I got rolled and every game I went BotRK I was a murder machine. But then again I'm just a gold scrub  This is honestly how i feel about hydra in general on everyone cept maybe Lee Sin. I just don't think it's honestly that good, especially compared to Bork. I've never really seen anyone get Hydra and think, damn that item's doing work. It's also always been a meh item for me, as well. Whereas Bork is great for assassinating, chasing, fleeing, etc... I know that mathematically in a vacuum Hydra>Bork, but I just don't see the results translated to actual games. On September 19 2013 14:14 cLutZ wrote: Who stopped playing Aatrox? Who stopped advocating him?
I want to say :p to everyone who poo-poo'd my "Manless + Sustain + Revive Passive can't be balanced" chants. Well Aatrox is basically a shittier version of pre-nerf Zac and now that Zac is out of the way Aatrox can shine. As if ZAC still isn't hard to balance. Eh I'd say he's pretty balanced right now if World's is any indication.
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On September 19 2013 13:39 Ketara wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 13:32 MattBarry wrote:On September 19 2013 12:46 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 19 2013 12:38 jcarlsoniv wrote:On September 19 2013 12:33 onlywonderboy wrote:On September 19 2013 12:29 jcarlsoniv wrote: I...think I just discovered Lissandra... Adding her to your pool? Quite potentially. I couldn't figure her out the first few times I played her. But I was solo defending a tower against all 5 enemies, Singed flung me into the middle of them. They did not live very long. How many buffs has she gotten? Very few if any, as far as I know. I always found her early damage pretty lacklustre personally, though that might be more a factor of my inability to effectively farm/being in Silver. I've been told her damage is batshits but have never really experienced it. You should stream a game imo.... She is right there with Zed in terms of ease of farming. All of her abilities are great for farming and you shouldn't run out of mana once you get chalice Never get chalice on Lissandra. You shouldn't run out of mana once you have one dorans ring. I like Athenes. CDR op. Only comparable item for cdr is morellos and I just don't like that item
On a sidenote: Support lissandra is pretty good. Fun thing to try in normals
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Support anything can be fun in normals.
You know who have attack speed debuffs? Lee Sin, Darius, Anivia!
Who has AoE stuns? Viktor, Cassiopeia, Syndra!
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Thought for the day:
Malzahar is interesting. May consider testing out his viability at countering assassins like Zed/Ahri, and does well vs tanks with Liandrys+W. Also, oppressive lane phase against these mids I wouls think.
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On September 19 2013 14:59 NeoIllusions wrote: xusic, wot role you main? :o
jungle>adc/sup>mid>top are my roles based on relative strength to people at my elo. its hard to main a role in solo queue so i never bothered. jungle and support are just what ive played the most of recently.
edit: also i enjoy playing all the roles so i just play what i want to usually.
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On September 19 2013 17:11 Lord Tolkien wrote: Thought for the day:
Malzahar is interesting. May consider testing out his viability at countering assassins like Zed/Ahri, and does well vs tanks with Liandrys+W. Also, oppressive lane phase against these mids I wouls think.
once anyone gets qss it's over for you
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I hate playing against malzahar but he has a harder time snowballing games than other popular picks.
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On September 19 2013 18:41 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 17:11 Lord Tolkien wrote: Thought for the day:
Malzahar is interesting. May consider testing out his viability at countering assassins like Zed/Ahri, and does well vs tanks with Liandrys+W. Also, oppressive lane phase against these mids I wouls think. once anyone gets qss it's over for you
Forcing clamps like ahri or zed to get an early qss seems like a win in and off itself
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On September 19 2013 17:11 Lord Tolkien wrote: Thought for the day:
Malzahar is interesting. May consider testing out his viability at countering assassins like Zed/Ahri, and does well vs tanks with Liandrys+W. Also, oppressive lane phase against these mids I wouls think.
His late-game viability just falls hard, because he only have ult as a potential threat and his sustained dps is quite low. I could imagine opting for early/mid-game pressure similar to Lee Sin.
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On September 19 2013 18:41 GTR wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2013 17:11 Lord Tolkien wrote: Thought for the day:
Malzahar is interesting. May consider testing out his viability at countering assassins like Zed/Ahri, and does well vs tanks with Liandrys+W. Also, oppressive lane phase against these mids I wouls think. once anyone gets qss it's over for you
Spend 1800 on defensive item... destroy all you roaming capability.
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Syndra is as purple as Malz but a 10 times better champion.
Play Syndra
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On September 19 2013 14:14 cLutZ wrote: Who stopped playing Aatrox? Who stopped advocating him?
I want to say :p to everyone who poo-poo'd my "Manless + Sustain + Revive Passive can't be balanced" chants. You actually said Aatrox was crap at release. Still said he was impossible to balance (but that's your #1 complaint most of the time so it's not hard) but you specifically said that he was badly designed because he was too binary, and that he was trash atm.
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I feel like aatrox is still a very situational pick, it's just that the current meta favors his niche.
"Normally", he's not that strong.
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afaik qss doesnt stop dmg from maltz ult
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