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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-19 14:23:18
September 19 2013 14:22 GMT
#3921
Aatrox max E is the only build IMO. How can you not gank with it? It's like a 5000 year slow and deals 300+ damage. Q gains no utility from leveling it up, save for last imo(not even a significant CDR like with Vi)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-19 14:25:18
September 19 2013 14:24 GMT
#3922
On September 19 2013 23:22 Shikyo wrote:
Aatrox max E is the only build IMO. How can you not gank with it? It's like a 5000 year slow and deals 300+ damage. Q gains no utility from leveling it up, save for last imo(not even a significant CDR like with Vi)


I RECANT MY POSITION. I'M JUST BAD.

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I'll do more jungle Aatrox when I'm playing like less shit. Also because I'm READY TO BE A MAN. Anyone have Rune recommendations for Jungle? I'm going with an AS/AD + Ar + MRes + LS quints because of DProx again.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 19 2013 14:45 GMT
#3923
Uh, even without taking CDR into account the damage is enough to make you max Q on Vi, 'cept if you're wanting to take drakes super early and then every subsequent one. It's her best burst skill and once you start thinking in terms of dps rather than burst you've maxed Q and W anyway.

And saying that Jayce has been killed would be like saying that raising Void Spikes cooldown on pre-change Kha'Zix from 8 to 12 would have killed him, or that making Zhonya more expensive would be killing Lissandra (or same with Deathcap and Karthus).
Jayce still hits like a truck, you just need to adjust your build if you want to keep his powerspike at the same timing, or to accept that you'll be in that "I don't take half your health in one QE so I'll just use it once or twice more" zone for a bit longer before you become godlike. Obviously since timings can be pretty important (and I don't really trust pros when it comes to discovering something underused, or learning to make up for a nerf*) it has an impact professionally if you hoped to keep playing Jayce in the same obscenely overpowered way you did before, but Jayce? Killed? He's still a monster.


* like most of the pro teams dropping Zac altogether, not to replace him with something better (some did it with Aatrox, but the combo of the 2 was already something Gambit, for example, used to great effect), but just because he was nerfed and not an autowin anymore. Surprise, when some of them stick with him he proves to actually still be relevant and powerful.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
September 19 2013 14:52 GMT
#3924
Well good news. Snoopeh visited UBC, specifically the ubc esports society(My university) a few weeks ago, and travis convinced Doublelift+Snoopeh to go back and visit again.

Downside: I chose this year to go and find a stupid internship so I don't get to meet them ==;
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
September 19 2013 14:52 GMT
#3925
I would quote you Alaric, but it would take up too much screen real estate.

But yeah, I still ban Zac because he's still ridiculous.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 19 2013 14:53 GMT
#3926
On September 19 2013 23:52 AsmodeusXI wrote:
I would quote you Alaric, but it would take up too much screen real estate.

But yeah, I still ban Zac because he's still ridiculous.

I regularly spoiler tag Alaric quotes, just sayin.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
September 19 2013 14:57 GMT
#3927
Korean breakfast is kinda meh
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
September 19 2013 14:57 GMT
#3928
Guys quick. What do you max first on jungle ZAC?
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 19 2013 14:58 GMT
#3929
On September 19 2013 23:57 ArchAngelSC wrote:
Guys quick. What do you max first on jungle ZAC?


E
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 19 2013 14:58 GMT
#3930
On September 19 2013 23:53 onlywonderboy wrote:
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On September 19 2013 23:52 AsmodeusXI wrote:
I would quote you Alaric, but it would take up too much screen real estate.

But yeah, I still ban Zac because he's still ridiculous.

I regularly spoiler tag Alaric quotes, just sayin.

Sometimes I spoiler tag my own posts.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
September 19 2013 15:00 GMT
#3931
On September 19 2013 23:58 Alaric wrote:
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On September 19 2013 23:53 onlywonderboy wrote:
On September 19 2013 23:52 AsmodeusXI wrote:
I would quote you Alaric, but it would take up too much screen real estate.

But yeah, I still ban Zac because he's still ridiculous.

I regularly spoiler tag Alaric quotes, just sayin.

Sometimes I spoiler tag my own posts.


That's bad and you should feel bad.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 19 2013 15:02 GMT
#3932
See, I do that to protect your eyes and make you feel less assaulted when your brain has to process that wall of text that suddenly popped in front of you, but you're being ungrateful.
THERE CAN BE NO CLOSURE BETWEEN US.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
September 19 2013 15:03 GMT
#3933
On September 19 2013 14:01 Gahlo wrote:
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On September 19 2013 13:09 Parametric wrote:
Been starting to try out Varus mid (after going on a massive losing streak) and building him as an AD caster.

Skills
R>Q>E>W

Build has ended up being
Boots 2Pot Ward
Bruta + CDR boots
then varying order of (usually goes hex -> BF -> LW then finish BT)
Hexdrinker
LW
BT
Lastly
Zephyr to round out the end of the build. I haven't gotten farther than that in game although that's pretty much an end game build.

Can't be zoned from farming, my turret can't be pushed and diving on me when my ult is up ends poorly for the other team. If anyone feels like messing around and trying it for themselves so i can brainstorm with someone else it'd be cool.

Edit: The main draw is just sniping the crap out of everyone and being able to selfishly take blue at every opportunity.

I've always felt that he's better off going AP in mid. That stack burst is insane.


All about the range, I'm a roaming long range turret of doom with a team fight ult.
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 19 2013 15:04 GMT
#3934
On September 19 2013 21:32 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
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On September 19 2013 21:07 NeoIllusions wrote:
On September 19 2013 20:49 kongoline wrote:
afaik qss doesnt stop dmg from maltz ult

But it does clear all the DoTs and allow you to get off Null Zone.
Needlessly to say, QSS hard counters Malz's combo kit.


its like 5am neo go to sleep wtf

Cheep plz.

On September 19 2013 22:32 AsmodeusXI wrote:
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On September 19 2013 21:32 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 19 2013 21:07 NeoIllusions wrote:
On September 19 2013 20:49 kongoline wrote:
afaik qss doesnt stop dmg from maltz ult

But it does clear all the DoTs and allow you to get off Null Zone.
Needlessly to say, QSS hard counters Malz's combo kit.


its like 5am neo go to sleep wtf


He does this shit all the time.

I jungled Aatrox for the first time yesterday and was trolled hard by Diamondprox because I looked up a build he had for the Champ and it maxed E first and then I could never gank because Dark Flight was more like a Dark Hop.

Asmo plz.
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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
September 19 2013 15:05 GMT
#3935
and neo still manages to be afk in skype
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 19 2013 15:09 GMT
#3936
On September 20 2013 00:05 Chexx wrote:
and neo still manages to be afk in skype


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"Chexx plz"




http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
September 19 2013 15:09 GMT
#3937
On September 20 2013 00:05 Chexx wrote:
and neo still manages to be afk in skype


Neo pls.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
September 19 2013 15:11 GMT
#3938
Roffles has kind of ruined the word pls for me, except now I keep saying it cause I keep hearing it. It's a curse I tell you
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 19 2013 15:14 GMT
#3939
On September 20 2013 00:09 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2013 00:05 Chexx wrote:
and neo still manages to be afk in skype


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"Chexx plz"





See Asmo, that's how not to do it. Don't let scrub Ketara fool you.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-19 15:15:57
September 19 2013 15:14 GMT
#3940
TL LoL dictionary

Please: Verb
- To give pleasure or satisfaction.
- Like, Wish
- To have the kindness (to do something)
Ex: "will you please to enter the carriage"

Pls or Plz: Verb
- What are you talking about?
- Shut up.
- You are an idiot.
Ex: "KissBlade plz."
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