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On September 17 2013 00:15 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 00:11 Nos- wrote:On September 17 2013 00:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Ah, ok thanks. I noticed people building Triforce more. I certainly don't mind the item being used again, but yeah, Corki is strong as hell. More than once my team and I have gone for clean up in a skirmish only for corki to come in and make us all cry. The 1 item timing with triforce on corki makes him such a monster. You add a sorc boot on top and his burst in the early-mid game (since you can get a trifroce by like 15-16 minutes now) is huge. That raises an interesting question: What is the earliest Triforce timing we will see at Worlds? I would have said sub-10 minutes if Royal was in groups, but otherwise I dunno.
a "good" but not Crazy RoA+Tear timing (100g cheaper) is 14m so if you run a Corki mid and manage a fb I could see 10-11m
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On September 17 2013 00:19 Slusher wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 00:15 TheYango wrote:On September 17 2013 00:11 Nos- wrote:On September 17 2013 00:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Ah, ok thanks. I noticed people building Triforce more. I certainly don't mind the item being used again, but yeah, Corki is strong as hell. More than once my team and I have gone for clean up in a skirmish only for corki to come in and make us all cry. The 1 item timing with triforce on corki makes him such a monster. You add a sorc boot on top and his burst in the early-mid game (since you can get a trifroce by like 15-16 minutes now) is huge. That raises an interesting question: What is the earliest Triforce timing we will see at Worlds? I would have said sub-10 minutes if Royal was in groups, but otherwise I dunno. a "good" but not Crazy RoA+Tear timing (100g cheaper) is 14m so if you run a Corki mid and manage a fb I could see 10-11m
???
14m roa tear is pretty crazy @_@
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On September 17 2013 00:12 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 00:11 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:im so sad weixiao isnt at worlds with the corki fotm  Wx is dead. Be glad you can't see him Valk into a group of 5 as Corki. Cause I've seen him Rocket Jump into 5 plenty.
neo pls
you don't understand aggressive playstyle
#wxistheregiofcn
#baylieve
in all seirousness though that's one fo the reasons i love wx so much
in the era of adc farming for 40 min like scared bitches wx showed us how to make da big prays as adc
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I'm pretty sure thats the normal timing in OGN games because the old shy build would have the SV done as well by 18
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On September 17 2013 00:20 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 00:19 Slusher wrote:On September 17 2013 00:15 TheYango wrote:On September 17 2013 00:11 Nos- wrote:On September 17 2013 00:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Ah, ok thanks. I noticed people building Triforce more. I certainly don't mind the item being used again, but yeah, Corki is strong as hell. More than once my team and I have gone for clean up in a skirmish only for corki to come in and make us all cry. The 1 item timing with triforce on corki makes him such a monster. You add a sorc boot on top and his burst in the early-mid game (since you can get a trifroce by like 15-16 minutes now) is huge. That raises an interesting question: What is the earliest Triforce timing we will see at Worlds? I would have said sub-10 minutes if Royal was in groups, but otherwise I dunno. a "good" but not Crazy RoA+Tear timing (100g cheaper) is 14m so if you run a Corki mid and manage a fb I could see 10-11m ??? 14m roa tear is pretty crazy @_@
It's not that unheard of. Running Annie, I usually get my RoA around 12-14 min, and that's with a DRing start.
To be fair, 14 min is probably a little ambitious for a "good" timing assuming you aren't just getting fed. But I don't think it's that far off base.
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well I mean the games I'm basing that # off of are korean so it's possible my math is skewed by double tower take at that timing.
Unfortunatly with Corki, you can't both farm wraiths / wolves and push towers at the same time, so that timing is probly irrelevant w/o kills
and you pretty much have to ban Nasus and Shen if you want to go for tower push as Corki and that just isn't viable banning atm
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On September 17 2013 00:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 00:20 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On September 17 2013 00:19 Slusher wrote:On September 17 2013 00:15 TheYango wrote:On September 17 2013 00:11 Nos- wrote:On September 17 2013 00:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Ah, ok thanks. I noticed people building Triforce more. I certainly don't mind the item being used again, but yeah, Corki is strong as hell. More than once my team and I have gone for clean up in a skirmish only for corki to come in and make us all cry. The 1 item timing with triforce on corki makes him such a monster. You add a sorc boot on top and his burst in the early-mid game (since you can get a trifroce by like 15-16 minutes now) is huge. That raises an interesting question: What is the earliest Triforce timing we will see at Worlds? I would have said sub-10 minutes if Royal was in groups, but otherwise I dunno. a "good" but not Crazy RoA+Tear timing (100g cheaper) is 14m so if you run a Corki mid and manage a fb I could see 10-11m ??? 14m roa tear is pretty crazy @_@ It's not that unheard of. Running Annie, I usually get my RoA around 12-14 min, and that's with a DRing start. To be fair, 14 min is probably a little ambitious for a "good" timing assuming you aren't just getting fed. But I don't think it's that far off base.
I guess it depends on how we define good/normal timings
i don't consider getting 1-2 early kills with more than 1-2 objectives thrown in normal, and without that 14 minutes is pretty ambitious
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I guess I think of it as normal because that was the meta when Ryze was good.
also I miscalculated yet again, SApphire crystal open makes the combo effectively that much cheaper since there is 0 way you can open a component of triforce.
it's not a both either, one of the two would hit that timing.
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I've also had jungle Vi in every game today.
This shit is so funny.
I should just ban worlds champs. Ban Corki Vi Ahri npnp
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On September 17 2013 00:33 Ketara wrote:
I've also had jungle Vi in every game today.
This shit is so funny.
I should just ban worlds champs. Ban Corki Vi Ahri npnp
Goddamn it, I was playing Vi because of fucking Bengi and now she's going to be banned because of TOO and Xmithie?
#injustice
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I thought we saw a 13-14 minute Corki triforce in one of the games, I don't particularly remember, could have been OMG vs SKT. The damage was disgusting all game long, although there were definitely other factors in play.
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On September 17 2013 00:03 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2013 00:03 jcarlsoniv wrote:
What did they do to Corki to make him so strong? I'm not sure if I missed it or if it's recent enough and I'm just oblivious to changes. recent triforce buff combined with latent corki buffs from a few patches ago mainly some mana cost stuff from a while back and now carries who can use TF well are stronk.
It's also important to note that Draven, Twitch, and Vayne were all nerfed recently.
Based on my experiences experimenting with IBG Corki a few months ago for TROLLS, I'd say he was just a step below the competition. Then Riot buffed his mana costs, nerfed his competition, and made his favorite item ridiculously OP.
Surprise surprise, Corki is suddenly first pick/ban material.
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Sounds like typical Riot balancing.
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In Season 4 I just hope they just go full Dota and make everything OP so everyone here is happy :p
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On September 17 2013 00:42 Nos- wrote:
I thought we saw a 13-14 minute Corki triforce in one of the games, I don't particularly remember, could have been OMG vs SKT. The damage was disgusting all game long, although there were definitely other factors in play.
triforce at 13:39 in omg v skt. 2 kills, 1 assist, 105 cs, 2 towers
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On September 17 2013 00:53 onlywonderboy wrote:
In Season 4 I just hope they just go full Dota and make everything OP so everyone here is happy :p
yea because TI3 Wisp wasn't annoying as fuck.
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On September 17 2013 00:33 Ketara wrote:
I've also had jungle Vi in every game today.
This shit is so funny.
I should just ban worlds champs. Ban Corki Vi Ahri npnp
I just ban Ahri Fizz Eve every game. Seems the Eve should be Corki
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On September 17 2013 00:53 onlywonderboy wrote:
In Season 4 I just hope they just go full Dota and make everything OP so everyone here is happy :p
Don't be ridiculous. You can't make everyone here happy.
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On September 16 2013 22:17 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2013 22:13 mr_tolkien wrote:
Fnatic is and will always be a big question mark when they come in a tournament. Sometimes they melt faces like they're the best team in the world, sometimes they lose in convincing fashion to second tier teams like Vulcun. I feel like they're really hit-or-miss.
I'm sure they could surprise many people in pool play and just generally disrupt the rankings. I don't think their "hit-or-miss" is all that surprising, tbh. They're a team that preps and strategizes very well but aren't that clutch when their backs are against the wall. So they look really good against the teams they prep for/situations they've prepped for, but when they're winging it (and I don't think it's too unlikely that they wrote off Vulcun as a team that's weak enough for them to wing it against) they can look really bad. I've had this impression of them since IPL5, when they crushed TPA and Blaze with preparation (as I said then, soaz on Kha'zix was for sure a strat prepared exclusively for TPA because they never played the champ against any other team in the tournament) because those two were the teams that were on everyone's radar going into the event, but didn't really have an answer to WE because only the people who really did their homework or were familiar with Asian LoL going into the event marked them as contenders for the title.
Would you say it has to do with Soaz? While he has a gigantic champion pool, he doesn't really excel at anything.
For that match, their arrogance in thinking that they are above the TF adcs undid them. There isn't a single western adc that should be that arrogant.
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