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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 16 2013 16:05 GMT
#3281
On September 17 2013 01:00 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 00:53 onlywonderboy wrote:
In Season 4 I just hope they just go full Dota and make everything OP so everyone here is happy :p


Don't be ridiculous. You can't make everyone here happy.

Yeah I know, I wasn't being serious. People just always point out how Riot often nerfs things instead of buffing them. Maybe Season 4 will give them a chance to change things up.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
September 16 2013 16:09 GMT
#3282
On September 17 2013 00:19 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 00:15 TheYango wrote:
On September 17 2013 00:11 Nos- wrote:
On September 17 2013 00:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Ah, ok thanks. I noticed people building Triforce more. I certainly don't mind the item being used again, but yeah, Corki is strong as hell. More than once my team and I have gone for clean up in a skirmish only for corki to come in and make us all cry.

The 1 item timing with triforce on corki makes him such a monster. You add a sorc boot on top and his burst in the early-mid game (since you can get a trifroce by like 15-16 minutes now) is huge.

That raises an interesting question:

What is the earliest Triforce timing we will see at Worlds?

I would have said sub-10 minutes if Royal was in groups, but otherwise I dunno.


a "good" but not Crazy RoA+Tear timing (100g cheaper) is 14m so if you run a Corki mid and manage a fb I could see 10-11m



What? If you get a FB you can probably get a 14 min RoA, but not RoA+tear. My timing on kassadin is usually 18-20 min.
hi
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-16 16:11:07
September 16 2013 16:09 GMT
#3283
On September 17 2013 01:05 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 01:00 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On September 17 2013 00:53 onlywonderboy wrote:
In Season 4 I just hope they just go full Dota and make everything OP so everyone here is happy :p


Don't be ridiculous. You can't make everyone here happy.

Yeah I know, I wasn't being serious. People just always point out how Riot often nerfs things instead of buffing them. Maybe Season 4 will give them a chance to change things up.

Technically they buffed Corki, but noone noticed. I guess the community being so slow to pick up stuff plays a role. :<

On September 17 2013 00:36 AsmodeusXI wrote:
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On September 17 2013 00:33 Ketara wrote:
I've also had jungle Vi in every game today.

This shit is so funny.

I should just ban worlds champs. Ban Corki Vi Ahri npnp


Goddamn it, I was playing Vi because of fucking Bengi and now she's going to be banned because of TOO and Xmithie?

#injustice

Please, I was playing Vi because she was released.

Come to think about it I'd be in a tough spot, I've only jungled her and since Nautilus' W was raped I haven't been able to do too well with him. Sounds like I'd have to get another jungler ready, J4 maybe? His playstyle is pretty close, although he's much less damage later and I can't build lizard first as easily to dunk people on him.


Damn, I managed to lose to Shen with Jax despite an early gank that gave me a kill, an assist, and double buff while he got an assist. I guess him hitting 6 first and getting something like 10+ cs because my team was passive as hell after the wave naturally hit his turret and I roamed explained it, but I still somehow end up losing to Shen even after level 6 pretty regularly since I started going Triforce instead of BotRK (which was before the buff).
I guess I make the trades last too long. I should just double tap a minion -> hit Shen then gtfo as soon as he answers. I'm probably losing trades because I don't wait for him to burn his passive on a minion right before I attack, and because I don't disengage fast enough so he can use his shield. I still do more raw damage than him, but it doesn't matter because with his shield and sustain and my lack thereof I end up lower than him. Jax is supposed to naturally have the advantage so it's definitely me not thinking enough rather than a mechanics problem.
Also Shen tends to have a bigger creep wave against me because he can harass with Q and I tend to just shove into his tower and leave lane when I notice my wave's pushing, since Jax can't do anything to people under tower unless they're killable (which a healthy Shen isn't) so he gets a bigger wave when he pushes back. I gotta determine what's going wrong here, but shorter trades and gtfo when he uses his shield then go back in when it fades it def the first step.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 16 2013 16:09 GMT
#3284
On September 17 2013 01:05 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 01:00 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On September 17 2013 00:53 onlywonderboy wrote:
In Season 4 I just hope they just go full Dota and make everything OP so everyone here is happy :p


Don't be ridiculous. You can't make everyone here happy.

Yeah I know, I wasn't being serious. People just always point out how Riot often nerfs things instead of buffing them. Maybe Season 4 will give them a chance to change things up.

*hint* they already did, it was called the tons of damage patch.
liftlift > tsm
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 16 2013 16:11 GMT
#3285
Hopefully they don't do tons of damage before worlds next year too :D
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-16 16:14:45
September 16 2013 16:11 GMT
#3286
On September 17 2013 00:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
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On September 17 2013 00:11 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
im so sad weixiao isnt at worlds with the corki fotm

Wx is dead. Be glad you can't see him Valk into a group of 5 as Corki. Cause I've seen him Rocket Jump into 5 plenty.

His spirit lives within Turtle. Turtle even flashes in to ensure he's in the middle of the team. That fight yesterday against OMG where he killed Ahri and decided to manmode Valk into a full Kennen ult was godlike.

What a man.

Confirmed most awesome players at worlds:
1. Lovelin - Gives no fucks
2. Looper - Also gives no fucks
3. Turtle - So manly.

Biggest pussy:
1. Cyanide - What kind of a pussy Aatrox build is that? Real men build Cutlass + Dblade.
God Bless
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 16 2013 16:15 GMT
#3287
On September 17 2013 01:09 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 01:05 onlywonderboy wrote:
On September 17 2013 01:00 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On September 17 2013 00:53 onlywonderboy wrote:
In Season 4 I just hope they just go full Dota and make everything OP so everyone here is happy :p


Don't be ridiculous. You can't make everyone here happy.

Yeah I know, I wasn't being serious. People just always point out how Riot often nerfs things instead of buffing them. Maybe Season 4 will give them a chance to change things up.

*hint* they already did, it was called the tons of damage patch.

Not quite what I meant. But I guess it's all a moot point till we see how Riot decides to change up itemization again.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 16 2013 16:17 GMT
#3288
On September 17 2013 01:11 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 00:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
On September 17 2013 00:11 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
im so sad weixiao isnt at worlds with the corki fotm

Wx is dead. Be glad you can't see him Valk into a group of 5 as Corki. Cause I've seen him Rocket Jump into 5 plenty.

His spirit lives within Turtle. Turtle even flashes in to ensure he's in the middle of the team. That fight yesterday against OMG where he killed Ahri and decided to manmode Valk into a full Kennen ult was godlike.

What a man.

Confirmed most awesome players at worlds:
1. Lovelin - Gives no fucks
2. Looper - Also gives no fucks
3. Turtle - So manly.

Biggest pussy:
1. Cyanide - What kind of a pussy Aatrox build is that? Real men build Cutlass + Dblade.

The lack of love to Tgee in that list is saddening. Tgee #1 give no fucks support.
liftlift > tsm
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
September 16 2013 16:19 GMT
#3289
Real men engage lvl8 to lvl11 with half life Aatrox with bilge and dorans against Rumble 1v1 cause fuck everything
Bronze player stuck in platinum
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 16 2013 16:20 GMT
#3290
On September 17 2013 01:19 Nos- wrote:
Real men engage lvl8 to lvl11 with half life Aatrox with bilge and dorans against Rumble 1v1 cause fuck everything

That was probably the most notable thing for me about the OMG vs TSM match. LoveLin chasing away Dyrus but he's like 3 levels under. fk da wot
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 16 2013 16:21 GMT
#3291
On September 17 2013 01:20 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 01:19 Nos- wrote:
Real men engage lvl8 to lvl11 with half life Aatrox with bilge and dorans against Rumble 1v1 cause fuck everything

That was probably the most notable thing for me about the OMG vs TSM match. LoveLin chasing away Dyrus but he's like 3 levels under. fk da wot

Considering how bad Dyrus wiffed his ulti....
liftlift > tsm
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 16 2013 16:22 GMT
#3292
On September 17 2013 01:20 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 01:19 Nos- wrote:
Real men engage lvl8 to lvl11 with half life Aatrox with bilge and dorans against Rumble 1v1 cause fuck everything

That was probably the most notable thing for me about the OMG vs TSM match. LoveLin chasing away Dyrus but he's like 3 levels under. fk da wot


LoveLin plays like he's got his whole team behind him even if he doesn't. Don't know how you play against someone with testicles that big
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 16 2013 16:24 GMT
#3293
On September 17 2013 01:09 Sponkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 00:19 Slusher wrote:
On September 17 2013 00:15 TheYango wrote:
On September 17 2013 00:11 Nos- wrote:
On September 17 2013 00:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Ah, ok thanks. I noticed people building Triforce more. I certainly don't mind the item being used again, but yeah, Corki is strong as hell. More than once my team and I have gone for clean up in a skirmish only for corki to come in and make us all cry.

The 1 item timing with triforce on corki makes him such a monster. You add a sorc boot on top and his burst in the early-mid game (since you can get a trifroce by like 15-16 minutes now) is huge.

That raises an interesting question:

What is the earliest Triforce timing we will see at Worlds?

I would have said sub-10 minutes if Royal was in groups, but otherwise I dunno.


a "good" but not Crazy RoA+Tear timing (100g cheaper) is 14m so if you run a Corki mid and manage a fb I could see 10-11m



What? If you get a FB you can probably get a 14 min RoA, but not RoA+tear. My timing on kassadin is usually 18-20 min.


kassadin RoA timing is about as irrelevant as it gets when comparing to ADC farm
Carrilord has arrived.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
September 16 2013 16:26 GMT
#3294
Lucian vs Corki, who wins?
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 16 2013 16:28 GMT
#3295
the number of times Looper ran past the entire team just to flip Ahri was hilarious
Carrilord has arrived.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-16 16:30:14
September 16 2013 16:28 GMT
#3296
Riot only nerfs things, never buffs things.

Patch 3.9:
Buffed 5 champions
Nerfed 5 champions
Buffed 1 item
Nerfed 1 item

Patch 3.8:
Buffed 5 champions
Nerfed 3 champions
Buffed 5 items
Nerfed 3 items

Patch 3.7:
Buffed 5 champions
Nerfed 7 champions
Buffed 1 item

Total:
Buffed 15 champions
Nerfed 15 champions
Buffed 7 items
Nerfed 3 items

Confirmed Riot only nerfs things.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-16 16:29:19
September 16 2013 16:28 GMT
#3297
On September 17 2013 01:26 Dark_Chill wrote:
Lucian vs Corki, who wins?


Not Lucian. Actually I think early game Lucian probably wins that match up. But once 6 Corki should win easy.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
September 16 2013 16:29 GMT
#3298
On September 17 2013 01:28 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2013 01:26 Dark_Chill wrote:
Lucian vs Corki, who wins?


Not Lucian. Actually I think early game Lucian probably wins that match up. But once 6 Corki should win easy.

Given Corki's current state I'm inclined to agree.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 16 2013 16:29 GMT
#3299
On September 17 2013 01:28 Ketara wrote:
Riot only nerfs things, never buffs things.

Patch 3.9:
Buffed 5 champions
Nerfed 5 champions
Buffed 1 item
Nerfed 1 item

Patch 3.8:
Buffed 5 champions
Nerfed 3 champions
Buffed 5 items
Nerfed 3 items

Patch 3.7:
Buffed 5 champions
Nerfed 7 champions
Buffed 1 item


Confirmed Riot only nerfs things.

let's be honest here, riots nerfs are far more dramatic than their buffs, at least in regards to champions.
liftlift > tsm
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 16 2013 16:30 GMT
#3300
On September 17 2013 01:28 Ketara wrote:
Riot only nerfs things, never buffs things.

Patch 3.9:
Buffed 5 champions
Nerfed 5 champions
Buffed 1 item
Nerfed 1 item

Patch 3.8:
Buffed 5 champions
Nerfed 3 champions
Buffed 5 items
Nerfed 3 items

Patch 3.7:
Buffed 5 champions
Nerfed 7 champions
Buffed 1 item


Confirmed Riot only nerfs things.


degree is highly relevant here, Ryze nerfs are probly worth 3 of those buffs.
Carrilord has arrived.
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