EPT[Patch 3.11] General Discussion - Page 166
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Slusher
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 17 2013 01:31 Slusher wrote: Dlift said yesterday on the broadcast best pick to lane counter Corki is Graves. I don't really see how? Out shove lanes? or outburst? | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On September 17 2013 01:24 Slusher wrote: kassadin RoA timing is about as irrelevant as it gets when comparing to ADC farm After 14 min, you'll have like 140 cs if you hit everything. With a FB that's enough to net you roa+tear naked without boots. Now when was the last time that happened? EDIT: Using Kassadin was indeed a stupid choice. But even when i play Anivia and i get something like FB i'm only sitting on Boots1+RoA after 14 min or so. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On September 17 2013 01:31 Slusher wrote: Dlift said yesterday on the broadcast best pick to lane counter Corki is Graves. Real Season 2 | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On September 17 2013 01:31 wei2coolman wrote: I don't really see how? Out shove lanes? or outburst? No idea, but I trust Doublelift. he probly out trades because of the free mr from passive? not sure. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On September 17 2013 01:22 Numy wrote: LoveLin plays like he's got his whole team behind him even if he doesn't. Don't know how you play against someone with testicles that big He did have someone behind him, lol. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On September 17 2013 01:34 Sponkz wrote: After 14 min, you'll have like 140 cs if you hit everything. With a FB that's enough to net you roa+tear naked without boots. Now when was the last time that happened? EDIT: Using Kassadin was indeed a stupid choice. But even when i play Anivia and i get something like FB i'm only sitting on Boots1+RoA after 14 min or so. number isn't out of thin air, it was the common timing when not behind on OGN back when Ryze was in every game. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On September 17 2013 01:43 Roffles wrote: Triforce Graves. You heard it here first. Out of the jungle | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
On September 17 2013 01:31 Slusher wrote: Dlift said yesterday on the broadcast best pick to lane counter Corki is Graves. Old S2 meta. The holy Trinity of ADCs. That being said, I disagree. It's at best an even matchup, dependent on supports. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Badboyrune
Sweden2247 Posts
On September 17 2013 01:45 Slusher wrote: if only Genja played Graves, manamune + triforce Graves to the rescue triple dorans into tear into triforce graves sounds beatiful | ||
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Slusher
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On September 17 2013 01:56 TheYango wrote: You also said that the Triforce change in 3.10a wouldn't be a big deal. LOL Yango is never gonna let you live that down. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On September 17 2013 01:43 Roffles wrote: Triforce Graves. You heard it here first. And you max E and stack AS after Triforce so your E is always up and gives you 4s cd triforce procs in-between your other spells! We're onto something. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On September 17 2013 01:30 Slusher wrote: degree is highly relevant here, Ryze nerfs are probly worth 3 of those buffs. I'm not going to say that the Ryze nerf wasn't big, or that Dade wasn't possibly trolling with it yesterday. But realistically, Ryze wasn't first pick/ban material before the nerf, and is still actually picked now (even if it might be a stupid idea.) It's not like the Olaf nerf where he immediately went from being first pick material and played in every single solo queue game to no one ever playing him again. I think we can all agree the Olaf nerf was overboard. If Ryze is being picked as a poor choice in Worlds, he's viable in Solo Queue still. Compare that to some of the buffs in the 3 patches I listed, such as the Triforce buff, or the Spirit Visage buff, or the Nunu jungle buff, that launched these three things straight into always used all the time when they first came out. Remember how many picks and bans Yi was getting in solo queue when he first got buffed? And how they had to nerf him again immediately after? Realistically, I think Riots buff/nerf ratios are fairly 50/50, or at most like 60% nerf 40% buff. The issue is people notice nerfs more than buffs and tend to be more upset about nerfs than buffs, so even if it's 60/40, it looks like 80/20 unless you actually sit back and examine it objectively. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
A big part of noticing nerfs vs buffs too is that nerfs typically hit champions you see all the time, while buffs typically hit champions you don't see. So you notice the nerfs more. Unless it's something huge like jungle Nunu buffs, then everybody goes nutso. | ||
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