EPT[Patch 3.11] General Discussion - Page 157
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
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Prog
United Kingdom1470 Posts
On September 16 2013 03:02 wei2coolman wrote: Interesting, unfortunately lack of lifesteal in that build. Ghost blade gives 15% as well. so 40% crit. Lack of lifesteal with BotRK? Oo | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On September 16 2013 03:02 wei2coolman wrote: Interesting, unfortunately lack of lifesteal in that build. Ghost blade gives 15% as well. so 40% crit. didn't we just discuss Botrk? (longsword+vamp=bilgewater>botrk | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Trist has good W, E and R base damage in the midgame, while her autos suck. She can't really go BT because she doesn't have AD ratios, so instead with BotRK she gets 15% of your max HP as an additional "spell" when your team engages on a target and wants to kill it asap. Plus bursting earlier also gives an earlier W reset. On September 16 2013 02:44 wei2coolman wrote: Twitch, Kog, and Trist, benefit pretty well off of BotRK. Varus goes BT when maxing Q for the poke/long-range finisher, but going BotRK isn't exactly bad with E max, it makes him really good at 1v1, catching people, or simply peeling for himself with E+R+active. On September 16 2013 03:05 Lord Tolkien wrote: Ghostblade is a heavily underrated item, tbh. The temporary MS buff is absolutely huge on certain champions (been playing Talon with first item Ghostblade over Cleaver, for instance). Prefer Tiamat. Don't need to chase if they're dead. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On September 16 2013 03:06 Slusher wrote: seems like a pretty legit build for short fights. I think the ghostblade active gives her a pretty good extended fight. With the 10% CDR she's at an 18 second cooldown on Q, which gives her max attackspeed. That lasts 7 seconds, then as soon as it drops you use the Ghostblade active, which isn't as much of a steroid but lasts another 4 seconds. That's 11 seconds of as much ASPD as you'd be getting out of PD, but with more damage. Then you're only weaker for 7 seconds before Q is up again. Realistically it's a fairly academic discussion though. If Tristana gets to level 18 with IE+BotRK+LW+GA+anything else she's going to be strong. PD/Shiv also look a lot better if the enemy team has Nasus/Malphite/Lee/Gragas/etc on the team, which is often enough. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
also the arp gives you higher damage potential on crits than PD would. it's interesting I'll give you that. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35144 Posts
On September 16 2013 02:37 wei2coolman wrote: I still think bruiser nidalee is suboptimal ever since she lost free resist, but god, triforce nidalee q execute does so much fucking damage. IDK, Flame's BotRK/SV/IBG build looked pretty beast. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Don_Julio
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
It actually looks like a second Infinity Edge would outdamage Ghostblade. IE+IE+BotRK+LW may be best. | ||
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Haiq343
United States2548 Posts
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Prog
United Kingdom1470 Posts
On September 16 2013 03:49 zulu_nation8 wrote: Arthelon used to main panth way back in season 2. He's a really smart player and one of the best amateur mids currently. Also his poppy play is legendary. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On September 16 2013 03:59 Haiq343 wrote: Is that like the Anti-Genja build? Or would that require 3 IEs? IE+IE+IE+IE+LW glass cannon obviously. 100% crit op. | ||
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silencefc
United States875 Posts
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Blurio
Germany288 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On September 16 2013 03:00 Ketara wrote: BotRK isn't the bad item on Trist, PD is. 21 offense, BotRK and rank 5 Q gives her exactly 2.5 ASPD at 18. Few months ago I did some Tristana math, the highest damage 4 item combo for Trist is actually BotRK, IE, LW, Ghostblade. Use the ghostblade active as soon as Q drops. I don't believe your math. http://lol.askmrrobot.com/tools/builder/tristana-vs-targetdummy/5ca1cfd7-a4f3-4f08-9891-ea5a11095af2#r=Damage,t=TargetDummy,d=Dps Goes on to heavily favor PD builds when ghostblade and youmouu's wear off and you realize you didn't make the maximum use of your temporary attack speed buff because the enemy LB scared you away for 7 seconds. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On September 16 2013 04:25 Blurio wrote: Doubleswords for more dunks. Yeah you want swords. Longswords though. Fill your inventory, win lane, np, then they build up. | ||
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