EPT[Patch 3.11] General Discussion - Page 158
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UniversalSnip
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 16 2013 04:03 Ketara wrote: IE+IE+IE+IE+LW glass cannon obviously. 100% crit op. Would actually be pretty good on Lucian. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
You don't think 30 AD and 20 armor pen outdamages 15% crit, as a general statement? | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On September 16 2013 04:34 Ketara wrote: You don't think 30 AD and 20 armor pen outdamages 15% crit, as a general statement? Added some details to my last post. I don't believe your build gives the maximum dps. Robot has a lot of flaws. For instance if you're shooting multiple targets you're not likely getting the most out of your botrk active. Most targets will be damaged so you're not hitting targets from full health. There are multiple targets with less than 2500 hp. Ghostblade active can be wasted if you get scared away from a fight. And burst damage from spells tends to favor the weaker dps build. In general a double PD build will blow any other AD carry build out of the water. | ||
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Djin)ftw(
Germany3357 Posts
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Letmelose
Korea (South)3227 Posts
Imagine the World Cup where the regional allocations were questionable enough to start with, and Asia had more slots than some of the more competitive regions like South America, or Europe. Then imagine that despite those flawed slot allocations, Australia failed to qualify for the World Cup through the Asian qualifiers, then applied for a wildcard spot by claiming they represent Oceania, despite having tried their luck through the Asian qualification system. Sure we're getting good representation of the various regions, but kind of a precedent here? Go abuse the system to the your fullest degree? Seriously, Riot should set a fair system that rewards competitive competance, so that these teams don't have to sell out on their competitive integrity in order give themselves the best possible chance. If you're not going to reward excellence, and start making these flawed rules that can be abused. People will take advantage of it. Sure some people are being blase about it now, but once these rules start to strike where it hurts for you, you'll care, and that is just cowardice. This is a problem, and it needs to be solved. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On September 16 2013 04:42 obesechicken13 wrote: Added some details to my last post. I don't believe your build gives the maximum dps. Robot has a lot of flaws. For instance if you're shooting multiple targets you're not likely getting the most out of your botrk active. Most targets will be damaged so you're not hitting targets from full health. There are multiple targets with less than 2500 hp. Ghostblade active can be wasted if you get scared away from a fight. And burst damage from spells tends to favor the weaker dps build. In general a double PD build will blow any other AD carry build out of the water. Okay. Lets do some simple math, looking at these builds. I noticed that the way I was doing math for Attack Speed is incorrect, so I went into a custom game and got all the items to check the attack speeds. It took a long time so you BETTER APPRECIATE IT QQ + Show Spoiler [numbers] + At level 18 Tristana has 100.5 base AD and base 1.12832 ASPD. With runes (hybrid pen / armor / mr / lifesteal), 21/9/0 masteries and items, she's at the following: Build A: (IE LW PD PD) AD: 225.5 Arpen: 35%+8%+13.1 ASPD: 2.5 with Q, 2.09 without Q Build B: (IE IE LW BotRK) AD: 320.5 Arpen: 35%+8%+13.1 ASPD: 2.18 with Q, 1.59 without Q Now, ignoring the BotRK passive altogether, lets look at some DPS totals vs. different armor amounts. + Show Spoiler [conclusions] + Build A: (IE LW PD PD) DPS vs. 100(46.7) armor: 764.73 with Q, then 639.31 DPS vs. 200(106.5) armor: 543.27 with Q, then 454.17 DPS vs. 300(166.3) armor: 421.27 with Q, then 352.18 Build B: (IE IE LW BotRK) DPS vs. 100(46.7) armor: 869.19 with Q, then 633.95 DPS vs. 200(106.5) armor: 617.48 with Q, then 450.36 DPS vs. 300(166.3) armor: 478.82 with Q, then 349.23 So as we can see, the IE LW PD PD build does less damage while Q is active, and after it goes down does less than 1% more, which will be overtaken by the BotRK passive no matter how much HP the target has. Also the build with BotRK has lifesteal and a BotRK active. Moral of the story, screw Ghostblade I'm a baddie. I wonder what the numbers for IE PD LW BotRK would be on Trist in comparison. | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
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san-tokie
Korea (South)185 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/adcNmkZ.png) Loci beat Faker ?? faker piglet Anyone figure out other worlds smurfs? GoldPoro[#1-5] FiestaHat[#2,4,5,6] possibly TSM or C9 Another one! | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On September 16 2013 07:17 san-tokie wrote: Loci beat Faker ?? faker piglet Anyone figure out other worlds smurfs? GoldPoro[#1-5] FiestaHat[#2,4,5,6] possibly TSM or C9 Another one! Iunno if Loci 'won'. He and Liss were both negative, and Faker was pretty fed. IT'S OKAY WORTH | ||
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LoCicero
1100 Posts
On September 16 2013 08:06 ticklishmusic wrote: Iunno if Loci 'won'. He and Liss were both negative, and Faker was pretty fed. IT'S OKAY WORTH I was actually support, so I didn't really beat him per se, but, we did stomp his bot lane. | ||
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Ethelis
United States2396 Posts
On September 16 2013 08:23 LoCicero wrote: I was actually support, so I didn't really beat him per se, but, we did stomp his bot lane. Quiet! Hurry guys, start making a huge headline: "TL hero beat Faker" | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On September 16 2013 07:17 san-tokie wrote: Loci beat Faker ?? faker piglet Anyone figure out other worlds smurfs? GoldPoro[#1-5] FiestaHat[#2,4,5,6] possibly TSM or C9 Another one! That's not faker | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
On September 16 2013 08:23 LoCicero wrote: I was actually support, so I didn't really beat him per se, but, we did stomp his bot lane. I was thinking real hard how those lanes were set up, double AP with Nunu so ambiguous ?_? I assume that's qtpie | ||
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Fealthas
607 Posts
All the guides I have found seem to be written by bronze players, recommending rylais rush, | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
Thats a faker faker. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
That's the fake! (my friend I play LoL with yells that every time he accidentally attacks a Wukong clone.) | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On September 16 2013 09:14 cLutZ wrote: D1 of Worlds (not a spoiler), has reminded me why Riot let Corki languish for so long. If he is even mildly strong he just makes the AD-Support meta so boring. MF and Ezreal and Draven more interesting yo. ... not. It's been what, two weeks since the patch is out? Maybe it'll die down if we leave it more time to be figured out, it's a fad atm, and we'll see later to what extend it is justified. | ||
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