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Martial arts ? That's MY subject :D I did train Tai-Jutsu for many years, did some Karate with my family (mom's Black belt and shit), I also did a few years of boxing as a sport. I also tried various other martial arts/sports but every time I stopped after a few lessons, it was more to experience variety.
If you want to fight better, you don't need a martial art or any of that shit. You need to fight more. Boxing is a pretty good training because it will teach you to take hits, which is really important in winning a fist fight. Any «complete» martial art like Tai-jutsu, Ju-jitsu, ... Will also teach you good reflexes if you spend a lot of time on the basics, but most of the team IRL fights are decided at the first hit.
Very few guys can withstand more than one good blow anyway. Especially bare-handed and in the face :p
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When I first started watching eskrima sparring, I was like, wtf is this? It looked wild and crazy and all those nice flowing hits we were practicing in class became absolutely chaotic in the ring.
Then you realize how different actual fighting is compared to class.
The performance side is cool too, I feel like certain storytelling/art elements are really well expressed in some martial arts.
The thing that annoys me the most is when people argue over which is better over the internet. I swear, you can't watch a Youtube video without idiots arguing in the comments about which martial art is better and/or how great MMA is.
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No point in comparing martial arts. The only thing a fight tells you is who's the better fighter not who's choices in martial arts is better. With that being said. Catch wrestling > all. Sakuraba4lyfe.
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There are definitely certain martial arts that are better/worse at actual fighting. Taekwondo is probably, among the common ones, the least useful. Anything that is wrestling/grappling-oriented with a focus on short strikes to critical areas will usually be better. The game of real fights comes down to either A) Getting the first good hit, or B) Being better on the ground. Scenario A is much rarer, and a person who knows how to fight and is a good Ground and Pound fighter can always force Scenario B.
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i'd imagine that if you knew a fight was coming, whoever had the better weapon (like a chair vs an unarmed guy / a guy with a short ranged weapon would be pretty good in a bar fight as long as you didn't miss with it i'd guess?) would be the winner in most 1 on 1s. but if it was out of the blue, i'd imagine most martial art practitioners would be able to get a 1hko
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On August 20 2013 13:15 Navi wrote:
i'd imagine that if you knew a fight was coming, whoever had the better weapon (like a chair vs an unarmed guy / a guy with a short ranged weapon would be pretty good in a bar fight as long as you didn't miss with it i'd guess?) would be the winner in most 1 on 1s. but if it was out of the blue, i'd imagine most martial art practitioners would be able to get a 1hko
What do you mean by practitioner? Because, largely, even among black belts, the answer would be no.
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On August 20 2013 07:42 kainzero wrote:
When I first started watching eskrima sparring, I was like, wtf is this? It looked wild and crazy and all those nice flowing hits we were practicing in class became absolutely chaotic in the ring.
Then you realize how different actual fighting is compared to class.
The performance side is cool too, I feel like certain storytelling/art elements are really well expressed in some martial arts.
The thing that annoys me the most is when people argue over which is better over the internet. I swear, you can't watch a Youtube video without idiots arguing in the comments about which martial art is better and/or how great MMA is.
I agree, those arguments are always stupid
MMA is by far the best though
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On August 20 2013 13:36 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2013 13:15 Navi wrote:
i'd imagine that if you knew a fight was coming, whoever had the better weapon (like a chair vs an unarmed guy / a guy with a short ranged weapon would be pretty good in a bar fight as long as you didn't miss with it i'd guess?) would be the winner in most 1 on 1s. but if it was out of the blue, i'd imagine most martial art practitioners would be able to get a 1hko What do you mean by practitioner? Because, largely, even among black belts, the answer would be no.
belt systems are mostly fraudulent. Ever heard the term McDojo's?
as far as tkd (tae-kwon-do) is concerned, I think there are some pretty decent applications. it's got one of the longest form range of engagements out of martial arts. The only martial arts I think that even comes close to range is savat. I'm sure there are some sick long range initiations you could open up with in tkd.
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On August 20 2013 13:36 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2013 13:15 Navi wrote:
i'd imagine that if you knew a fight was coming, whoever had the better weapon (like a chair vs an unarmed guy / a guy with a short ranged weapon would be pretty good in a bar fight as long as you didn't miss with it i'd guess?) would be the winner in most 1 on 1s. but if it was out of the blue, i'd imagine most martial art practitioners would be able to get a 1hko What do you mean by practitioner? Because, largely, even among black belts, the answer would be no.
mostly talking about like a bar setting or something. i imagined that if you got a good sucker punch / blow to the head in when someone had turned their back to you, you could mostly immobilize / knock someone out relatively easily if you were experienced. totally conjecture though, as i am not anywhere near a black belt in any martial art.
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Reading up on muay thai MMA starting switching to that style because it beat most other matial arts. Also i was looking on the wiki cause yall mentioned it. And it has a story of a prisoner's being captured by some enemy and the king made them fight and one guy won 9 fights straight with out rest. So cool :D
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On August 20 2013 14:23 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2013 13:36 cLutZ wrote:On August 20 2013 13:15 Navi wrote:
i'd imagine that if you knew a fight was coming, whoever had the better weapon (like a chair vs an unarmed guy / a guy with a short ranged weapon would be pretty good in a bar fight as long as you didn't miss with it i'd guess?) would be the winner in most 1 on 1s. but if it was out of the blue, i'd imagine most martial art practitioners would be able to get a 1hko What do you mean by practitioner? Because, largely, even among black belts, the answer would be no. belt systems are mostly fraudulent. Ever heard the term McDojo's? as far as tkd (tae-kwon-do) is concerned, I think there are some pretty decent applications. it's got one of the longest form range of engagements out of martial arts. The only martial arts I think that even comes close to range is savat. I'm sure there are some sick long range initiations you could open up with in tkd.
Like i agree with the black belt hate you are getting at, because I laugh at blackbelts all the time. But honestly, the problem with TKD, is that if you are not significantly better than the opponent you can't beat them before a real move is done.
Its kinda like a highly exaggerated version of Singed v. Teemo. If you won, its because you are just ridiculously better than the other person at fighting.
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On August 20 2013 15:31 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2013 14:23 wei2coolman wrote:On August 20 2013 13:36 cLutZ wrote:On August 20 2013 13:15 Navi wrote:
i'd imagine that if you knew a fight was coming, whoever had the better weapon (like a chair vs an unarmed guy / a guy with a short ranged weapon would be pretty good in a bar fight as long as you didn't miss with it i'd guess?) would be the winner in most 1 on 1s. but if it was out of the blue, i'd imagine most martial art practitioners would be able to get a 1hko What do you mean by practitioner? Because, largely, even among black belts, the answer would be no. belt systems are mostly fraudulent. Ever heard the term McDojo's? as far as tkd (tae-kwon-do) is concerned, I think there are some pretty decent applications. it's got one of the longest form range of engagements out of martial arts. The only martial arts I think that even comes close to range is savat. I'm sure there are some sick long range initiations you could open up with in tkd. Like i agree with the black belt hate you are getting at, because I laugh at blackbelts all the time. But honestly, the problem with TKD, is that if you are not significantly better than the opponent you can't beat them before a real move is done. Its kinda like a highly exaggerated version of Singed v. Teemo. If you won, its because you are just ridiculously better than the other person at fighting.
Singed vs Teemo.... *Shudder*
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isn't MMA what it says in the name Mixed Martial arts so its a combination of Martial arts its allways will be better in than just one Martial arts because every Martial arts has a weekness to it.
Martial arts are great - I am a 1st Dan in Judo and was on the Great Briton team, but you still have to be wise to what is going on in real fights because nothing is staged and all the "dirty tactics" can be used.
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After playing a lot of both singed and teemo, I'm starting to be convinced that Singed vs Teemo favors Singed at the higher levels. Obviously you don't have 1v1 kill potential but I think you can have more presence while not being outfarmed.
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On August 20 2013 09:37 wei2coolman wrote:
No point in comparing martial arts. The only thing a fight tells you is who's the better fighter not who's choices in martial arts is better. With that being said. Catch wrestling > all. Sakuraba4lyfe.
since pretty much all MMA use boxing/muay thai (or some similar variants of kickboxing) for standup and brazilian jiu-jutsu/wrestling for grappling and pretty much nobody uses much of anything else except as a background martial art I think its pretty reasonable to compare them tbh.
they are definitely some rules in mma that would change the way you fight a bit (i think roundhouse kicks expose your groin, groundfighting not too useful vs 1 more than 1 opponent, which leaves probably boxing as the most solid thing assuming you dont break your hand because you're used to striking a hard head with padding)
that said, anyone good at any martial art has a huge advantage, but to say theres no point comparing is going too far
also people ignoring size/weight, some 140 lb nerd with a chair isnt going to last long against someone whos 200 lb or something lol
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On August 20 2013 16:10 ReketSomething wrote:
After playing a lot of both singed and teemo, I'm starting to be convinced that Singed vs Teemo favors Singed at the higher levels. Obviously you don't have 1v1 kill potential but I think you can have more presence while not being outfarmed.
Tbh Singed vs Teemo is quite a good matchup for singed. He's got a way stronger early all-in as well and can kill Teemo at lvl3 if he still has full HP and is pushed.
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I can't decide whether Teut is serious or he is just trying to make the bait as covert as possible
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man, tried crossfit's bootcamp today. i've run long distance and played soccer throughout my life, so my core and legs were probably in a good place - but my shoulders were not ready for this. still gonna keep up with it and then crossfit afterwards but it's gonna be one helluva ride.
on a related note, in terms of diet, is it possible to both lose fat and gain muscle at the same time (thermodynamics would suggest no?) if not, does "toning" mean making leaner muscles and losing fat, rather than gaining muscle mass? as of now, i'm pretty ignorant, so i'm just going to focus on eating healthy food as suggested per this
http://simplesciencefitness.com/
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Navi, check out the health and fitness section of TL. Lots of friendly and knowledgeable people there  Make sure your resting enough, crossfit can take a serious toll on your body if you're not taking care of yourself in between workouts and getting adequate rest.
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On August 20 2013 20:59 Scip wrote:
I can't decide whether Teut is serious or he is just trying to make the bait as covert as possible
only one way to find out
On August 20 2013 21:13 Navi wrote:man, tried crossfit's bootcamp today. i've run long distance and played soccer throughout my life, so my core and legs were probably in a good place - but my shoulders were not ready for this. still gonna keep up with it and then crossfit afterwards but it's gonna be one helluva ride. on a related note, in terms of diet, is it possible to both lose fat and gain muscle at the same time (thermodynamics would suggest no?) if not, does "toning" mean making leaner muscles and losing fat, rather than gaining muscle mass? as of now, i'm pretty ignorant, so i'm just going to focus on eating healthy food as suggested per this http://simplesciencefitness.com/
if you really force yourself to work out you will constantly tear your muscle fibres and they'll need repairing but if you are still using more calories than you eat you have to lose fat for that but i imagine it takes a sick amount of willpower (probably have to eat lots of protein and fruit&veg as well but with low calories)
i think the standard way is to build up muscle which will increase your metabolism and then start "cutting" where you eat a lot less but keep exercising so your muscles don't atrophy in any way so your body starts burning fat
i think toning is more being strong and fit while keeping lean, instead of eating a lot and doing lots of high rep exercises in order to make your muscles a lot bigger (but not necessarily a lot stronger)
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