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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 10:24:06
August 16 2013 10:23 GMT
#5261
On August 16 2013 16:57 mr_tolkien wrote:
Nah, Akali is pretty good at this point, given once she gets enough farm/xp she can rape pretty much anybody from a full screen range.

She's supposed to get trashed 1v1 early on.

Poppy is balanced too, right? For same reason, with your logic. I mean look at zekent. Was diamond in s2 with insane amount of poppy games.
liftlift > tsm
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
August 16 2013 10:26 GMT
#5262
On August 16 2013 19:23 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 16:57 mr_tolkien wrote:
Nah, Akali is pretty good at this point, given once she gets enough farm/xp she can rape pretty much anybody from a full screen range.

She's supposed to get trashed 1v1 early on.

Poppy is balanced too, right? For same reason, with your logic. I mean look at zekent. Was diamond in s2 with insane amount of poppy games.

Lol good one poppy isnt balanced. She's
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The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 16 2013 10:43 GMT
#5263
On August 16 2013 19:23 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 16:57 mr_tolkien wrote:
Nah, Akali is pretty good at this point, given once she gets enough farm/xp she can rape pretty much anybody from a full screen range.

She's supposed to get trashed 1v1 early on.

Poppy is balanced too, right? For same reason, with your logic. I mean look at zekent. Was diamond in s2 with insane amount of poppy games.

poppy is pretty damn balanced. her role isn't something that is typically filled in LoL, but shes one of the very few who can fill it. Situational champions are good for the game. every champ being useful at any time leads to one of two things: blatent power creep, or homogenized gameplay.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 16 2013 10:49 GMT
#5264
On August 16 2013 19:43 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 19:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 16 2013 16:57 mr_tolkien wrote:
Nah, Akali is pretty good at this point, given once she gets enough farm/xp she can rape pretty much anybody from a full screen range.

She's supposed to get trashed 1v1 early on.

Poppy is balanced too, right? For same reason, with your logic. I mean look at zekent. Was diamond in s2 with insane amount of poppy games.

poppy is pretty damn balanced. her role isn't something that is typically filled in LoL, but shes one of the very few who can fill it. Situational champions are good for the game. every champ being useful at any time leads to one of two things: blatent power creep, or homogenized gameplay.

so poppy is actually pretty good, people just don't know how to play her?
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 16 2013 10:50 GMT
#5265
On August 16 2013 19:49 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 19:43 PrinceXizor wrote:
On August 16 2013 19:23 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 16 2013 16:57 mr_tolkien wrote:
Nah, Akali is pretty good at this point, given once she gets enough farm/xp she can rape pretty much anybody from a full screen range.

She's supposed to get trashed 1v1 early on.

Poppy is balanced too, right? For same reason, with your logic. I mean look at zekent. Was diamond in s2 with insane amount of poppy games.

poppy is pretty damn balanced. her role isn't something that is typically filled in LoL, but shes one of the very few who can fill it. Situational champions are good for the game. every champ being useful at any time leads to one of two things: blatent power creep, or homogenized gameplay.

so poppy is actually pretty good, people just don't know how to play her?

Did you even read what i wrote?
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12028 Posts
August 16 2013 10:53 GMT
#5266
On August 16 2013 15:16 Shelke14 wrote:
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On August 16 2013 13:51 ETisME wrote:
On August 16 2013 12:55 schmutttt wrote:
Had an interesting observation in my ranked stats yesterday. If mid and adc are taken I'll support but I don't do it that often, yet when I checked my winrates they were better overall than any of my other winrates in other roles.

What should I put this down to? I don't really rate myself as a support player (I'm only gold so I'm bad anyway, but I think I'm much better at mid or adc). Is it EASIER to play support in soloq if you just play stuff like sona?

I am only silver but whenever I am to pick adc, I usually win the game, almost 80 percent of the chance
But when I play support which I regard it as my main role, I only win around two third of my games


I don't know why this post bugged me so much. If your win rates are so high with those two roles (80 and 66 percent), how are you still sliver? You must be playing a high percentage of games in other roles and be losing a ton because that would be the only way for you to be kept at sliver.


I got 100% winrate with jungle Mundo. Why am i not challenger yet?
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
August 16 2013 11:01 GMT
#5267
On August 16 2013 19:23 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 16:57 mr_tolkien wrote:
Nah, Akali is pretty good at this point, given once she gets enough farm/xp she can rape pretty much anybody from a full screen range.

She's supposed to get trashed 1v1 early on.

Poppy is balanced too, right? For same reason, with your logic. I mean look at zekent. Was diamond in s2 with insane amount of poppy games.

Well, not seeing competitive play doesn't mean being bad or anything.

You can do what Akali is supposed to do with the pick. Her gameplay just changed from «faceroll at all levels» to «play really safe until 6 then wreck faces as usual». She's still viable and still can win games, what else is there to be to be considered «balanced» ?
The legend of Darien lives on
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 11:33:33
August 16 2013 11:28 GMT
#5268
She was never faceroll in lane even before s3 nerfs to her shroud. It used to be, "oh I'm only down 20 cs when we both reach lvl6". Now it's more like "I'm down a level, my turret is at half health and I'm down 30 cs"

as much hate as vlad gets, ideally I'd like to see her pre-6 work out similar to vlad. But, it's much closer to poppy in terms of laning phase.
liftlift > tsm
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1866 Posts
August 16 2013 11:45 GMT
#5269
Akali too strong once she gets going to have a stronger lane phase. With the way her kit works I really think that if shes viable competitively then shes stupidly broken strong at lower levels, as it is right now shes totally viable solo queue at any level and I dont think she needs too much of a change.
Writerman what
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
August 16 2013 11:50 GMT
#5270
Akali is balanced right now, she doesn't see play because dudes that do the same things (zed, ahri) as her are not balanced
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 16 2013 12:15 GMT
#5271
On August 16 2013 20:50 SagaZ wrote:
Akali is balanced right now, she doesn't see play because dudes that do the same things (zed, ahri) as her are not balanced

Oddly enough I think both ahri and zed are in a solid spot right now. Zed has more kit issues and less so power issues.
liftlift > tsm
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 16 2013 13:57 GMT
#5272
On August 16 2013 19:53 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 15:16 Shelke14 wrote:
On August 16 2013 13:51 ETisME wrote:
On August 16 2013 12:55 schmutttt wrote:
Had an interesting observation in my ranked stats yesterday. If mid and adc are taken I'll support but I don't do it that often, yet when I checked my winrates they were better overall than any of my other winrates in other roles.

What should I put this down to? I don't really rate myself as a support player (I'm only gold so I'm bad anyway, but I think I'm much better at mid or adc). Is it EASIER to play support in soloq if you just play stuff like sona?

I am only silver but whenever I am to pick adc, I usually win the game, almost 80 percent of the chance
But when I play support which I regard it as my main role, I only win around two third of my games


I don't know why this post bugged me so much. If your win rates are so high with those two roles (80 and 66 percent), how are you still sliver? You must be playing a high percentage of games in other roles and be losing a ton because that would be the only way for you to be kept at sliver.


I got 100% winrate with jungle Mundo. Why am i not challenger yet?

I have a 62% win rate with a decent number of games as Teemo, Skarner, Voli, and Soraka, and a 58% WR with Darius. I'm just too cray to stick to what works.
It's your boy Guzma!
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
August 16 2013 14:26 GMT
#5273
After Shyvana was getting play in LPL I decided to try her out yesterday.

Oh man, she's so fun. E, AA, Q is awesome burst. Sadly I think she still needs help, like you need a Janna or a Lulu or something.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
August 16 2013 14:31 GMT
#5274
Akali was pretty stupid before, the number nerfs were pretty justified. The only thing I really dislike was the cd on her ult at lvl1, it just feels so slow and you can't chain ults together as quickly. By lvl3 though you're still just flying everywhere
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 16 2013 14:33 GMT
#5275
On August 16 2013 23:26 kainzero wrote:
After Shyvana was getting play in LPL I decided to try her out yesterday.

Oh man, she's so fun. E, AA, Q is awesome burst. Sadly I think she still needs help, like you need a Janna or a Lulu or something.

Alternatively, if there's a Janna or a Lulu on the enemy team, cry.
It's your boy Guzma!
Ghost-z
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1291 Posts
August 16 2013 14:48 GMT
#5276
Just signed up for my AmEx so hopefully I have my 1000 RP when I get home later.
Fairy Tales when you're a child begin with "Once upon a time" and when you're an adult begin, "If elected I promise..."
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 15:09:02
August 16 2013 14:55 GMT
#5277
Try running akali + support top lane (my fave is fiddle). Bully the lane, win jungle ganks, towerdive all day after 6, and either can roam mid if there's nothing better to do.


Oh oh oh also the firerate of lucian's ult is apparently going to be determined by his attackspeed at the time of cast. NIDALEE NUNU WARWICK SIVIR LUCIAN GGTOPTIER TEAM
never mind, it's capped
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
August 16 2013 14:59 GMT
#5278
On August 16 2013 23:55 Tooplark wrote:
Try running akali + support top lane (my fave is fiddle). Bully the lane, win jungle ganks, towerdive all day after 6, and either can roam mid if there's nothing better to do.


Oh oh oh also the firerate of lucian's ult is apparently going to be determined by his attackspeed at the time of cast. NIDALEE NUNU WARWICK SIVIR LUCIAN GGTOPTIER TEAM


And deny the whole rest of your team any jungler presence, yeah great
I got five reasons for you to shut up
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
August 16 2013 15:02 GMT
#5279
On August 16 2013 23:33 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 23:26 kainzero wrote:
After Shyvana was getting play in LPL I decided to try her out yesterday.

Oh man, she's so fun. E, AA, Q is awesome burst. Sadly I think she still needs help, like you need a Janna or a Lulu or something.

Alternatively, if there's a Janna or a Lulu on the enemy team, cry.

If you are playing Shyvana top you shouldn't have many issues, she can out splitpush anyone and really can't be killed in any 1v1. She also can eat up so much of the enemy teams focus with only Cowl + Sunfire + boots, that small combo alone puts her into near unkillable status with all the free resists she gets.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 16 2013 15:03 GMT
#5280
On August 16 2013 23:59 The_Unseen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 23:55 Tooplark wrote:
Try running akali + support top lane (my fave is fiddle). Bully the lane, win jungle ganks, towerdive all day after 6, and either can roam mid if there's nothing better to do.


Oh oh oh also the firerate of lucian's ult is apparently going to be determined by his attackspeed at the time of cast. NIDALEE NUNU WARWICK SIVIR LUCIAN GGTOPTIER TEAM


And deny the whole rest of your team any jungler presence, yeah great

But how could you lose with all that cc?
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