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No more bad posting
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 16 2013 03:47 GMT
#5221
eh Minor depends on if you have Copp rng skills or not.
Carrilord has arrived.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
August 16 2013 03:55 GMT
#5222
Had an interesting observation in my ranked stats yesterday. If mid and adc are taken I'll support but I don't do it that often, yet when I checked my winrates they were better overall than any of my other winrates in other roles.

What should I put this down to? I don't really rate myself as a support player (I'm only gold so I'm bad anyway, but I think I'm much better at mid or adc). Is it EASIER to play support in soloq if you just play stuff like sona?
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 03:58:23
August 16 2013 03:57 GMT
#5223
MS boost is better for 1v1 or small skirmishes. Slows are better for teamfights because everyone will benefit if you slow an enemy. So overall imo slows are easily better.

Expecting phage Ashe to become fotm jk
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
August 16 2013 04:00 GMT
#5224
slows are better than an equivalent amount of haste because the target covers less distance once you've caught up to him.

although they're worse in weird corner cases like master yi
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
August 16 2013 04:27 GMT
#5225
so i can't connect to my game
so dumb :/
can't start a q either
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
zcxvbn
Profile Joined August 2009
United States257 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 04:35:32
August 16 2013 04:34 GMT
#5226
On August 16 2013 13:27 StorrZerg wrote:
so i can't connect to my game
so dumb :/
can't start a q either


yeah same, just won a game and it's not in my match history, and I can't do anything ... rito pls

e: now trying to log back on and queue is over 20000? wtf
NA: proberecall
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 16 2013 04:39 GMT
#5227
Watching westrice's stream, Nien just asked Westrice to be 1v1 partners.
liftlift > tsm
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
August 16 2013 04:41 GMT
#5228
On August 16 2013 13:39 wei2coolman wrote:
Watching westrice's stream, Nien just asked Westrice to be 1v1 partners.

Nien going dumpster diving.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 16 2013 04:42 GMT
#5229
On August 16 2013 13:41 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 13:39 wei2coolman wrote:
Watching westrice's stream, Nien just asked Westrice to be 1v1 partners.

Nien going dumpster diving.

Westrice's 1v1 is questionable, but his ability to roam is pretty damn good. Also it doesn't help Riot nerfed Akali til she was 6ft underground.
liftlift > tsm
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
August 16 2013 04:46 GMT
#5230
On August 16 2013 13:42 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 13:41 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
On August 16 2013 13:39 wei2coolman wrote:
Watching westrice's stream, Nien just asked Westrice to be 1v1 partners.

Nien going dumpster diving.

Westrice's 1v1 is questionable, but his ability to roam is pretty damn good. Also it doesn't help Riot nerfed Akali til she was 6ft underground.

Riot nerfed akali into the ground, or riot brought akali down from being OP? I never played akali, so I don't know, but that says a lot more about westrice's skills then it does about the champion akali. Just like how nien is just playing zac and elise, I bet he thinks he needs to work on his mechanics, when what he really needs to work on is playing champions that aren't way more powerful then the enemy counter part.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 16 2013 04:49 GMT
#5231
On August 16 2013 13:46 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 13:42 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 16 2013 13:41 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
On August 16 2013 13:39 wei2coolman wrote:
Watching westrice's stream, Nien just asked Westrice to be 1v1 partners.

Nien going dumpster diving.

Westrice's 1v1 is questionable, but his ability to roam is pretty damn good. Also it doesn't help Riot nerfed Akali til she was 6ft underground.

Riot nerfed akali into the ground, or riot brought akali down from being OP? I never played akali, so I don't know, but that says a lot more about westrice's skills then it does about the champion akali. Just like how nien is just playing zac and elise, I bet he thinks he needs to work on his mechanics, when what he really needs to work on is playing champions that aren't way more powerful then the enemy counter part.

Riot nerfed akali into the ground, and then dug a grave for her, buried her, and then defecated on it for good measure
The initial nerfs in s2 were okay, s3 nerfs were "lol fuck akali players, cuz wood league complains about the snowball".
Westrice has other good champs too, such as Rengar, and Zed.
liftlift > tsm
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12889 Posts
August 16 2013 04:51 GMT
#5232
On August 16 2013 12:55 schmutttt wrote:
Had an interesting observation in my ranked stats yesterday. If mid and adc are taken I'll support but I don't do it that often, yet when I checked my winrates they were better overall than any of my other winrates in other roles.

What should I put this down to? I don't really rate myself as a support player (I'm only gold so I'm bad anyway, but I think I'm much better at mid or adc). Is it EASIER to play support in soloq if you just play stuff like sona?

I am only silver but whenever I am to pick adc, I usually win the game, almost 80 percent of the chance
But when I play support which I regard it as my main role, I only win around two third of my games
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 04:57:23
August 16 2013 04:54 GMT
#5233
On August 16 2013 13:00 thenexusp wrote:
slows are better than an equivalent amount of haste because the target covers less distance once you've caught up to him.

although they're worse in weird corner cases like master yi


Offensively speaking slows are basically always better due to simple math. A 50% Slow is strong enough to completely cancel out a 100% movement speed boost. At the same time, any movement speed about 415 suffers from diminishing returns.

They're also better for the reason you stated. Slows increase the amount of time it takes your opponent to reach safety, which is typically far more useful than both of you moving around at light speed, especially when the speed is conditional on combat.

On August 16 2013 13:49 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 13:46 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
On August 16 2013 13:42 wei2coolman wrote:
On August 16 2013 13:41 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
On August 16 2013 13:39 wei2coolman wrote:
Watching westrice's stream, Nien just asked Westrice to be 1v1 partners.

Nien going dumpster diving.

Westrice's 1v1 is questionable, but his ability to roam is pretty damn good. Also it doesn't help Riot nerfed Akali til she was 6ft underground.

Riot nerfed akali into the ground, or riot brought akali down from being OP? I never played akali, so I don't know, but that says a lot more about westrice's skills then it does about the champion akali. Just like how nien is just playing zac and elise, I bet he thinks he needs to work on his mechanics, when what he really needs to work on is playing champions that aren't way more powerful then the enemy counter part.

Riot nerfed akali into the ground, and then dug a grave for her, buried her, and then defecated on it for good measure
The initial nerfs in s2 were okay, s3 nerfs were "lol fuck akali players, cuz wood league complains about the snowball".
Westrice has other good champs too, such as Rengar, and Zed.


Akali's laning is meh, but she's a fantastic jungler*!

*Montegomery absolves himself of all liability for any injuries to one's ego, ranking, or person resulting from Jungle Akali. Jungle Akali may result in Pentakills, feeding, delusions of grandeur, delusions of skill, rage, enlightenment, Heimerdinger's Disorder, or Teemo. Ask your Dr. Mundo if Jungle Akali is right for you.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
August 16 2013 04:57 GMT
#5234
On August 16 2013 13:54 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 13:00 thenexusp wrote:
slows are better than an equivalent amount of haste because the target covers less distance once you've caught up to him.

although they're worse in weird corner cases like master yi


Offensively speaking slows are basically always better due to simple math. A 50% Slow is strong enough to completely cancel out a 100% movement speed boost. At the same time, any movement speed about 415 suffers from diminishing returns.

They're also better for the reason you stated. Slows increase the amount of time it takes your opponent to reach safety, which is typically far more useful than both of you moving around at light speed, especially when the speed is conditional on combat.

I think it's simpler than that.
Offensively speaking, a slow allows multiple people catch up. While MS bonus only allows 1 person to catch up (unless your jayce, fuck that guy).
liftlift > tsm
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-16 05:05:30
August 16 2013 05:04 GMT
#5235
So it seems like NA servers are taking one gigantic dump, based upon how I can't even get into the game I was trying to load into (got stuck in champ select screen before it dumps to loading screen), and after a 8 minute queue time I still can't connect, with it saying game's in progress but won't let me reconnect to that game. And now queue time is 9 minutes, and probably 10+ as you read this.

Edit: for those curious, Riot is aware of the issue and have started compensation mode.

Source
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 16 2013 05:07 GMT
#5236
On August 16 2013 13:54 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 13:00 thenexusp wrote:
slows are better than an equivalent amount of haste because the target covers less distance once you've caught up to him.

although they're worse in weird corner cases like master yi


Offensively speaking slows are basically always better due to simple math. A 50% Slow is strong enough to completely cancel out a 100% movement speed boost. At the same time, any movement speed about 415 suffers from diminishing returns.

They're also better for the reason you stated. Slows increase the amount of time it takes your opponent to reach safety, which is typically far more useful than both of you moving around at light speed, especially when the speed is conditional on combat.


hence the reason they aren't costed the same and slows tend to have shorter durations than movespeed buffs
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 16 2013 05:35 GMT
#5237
On August 16 2013 13:41 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 13:39 wei2coolman wrote:
Watching westrice's stream, Nien just asked Westrice to be 1v1 partners.

Nien going dumpster diving.

Westrice is god
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
August 16 2013 05:37 GMT
#5238
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1kgy44/the_champions_summer_quarterfinals_conclude/

OGN Writeup for tonight is out.
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 16 2013 05:39 GMT
#5239
On August 16 2013 12:45 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2013 12:30 cLutZ wrote:
On August 16 2013 12:25 Zdrastochye wrote:
I like giving movespeed more than taking movespeed away, so I approve of the changes. It helps the bearer without negatively impacting the person they're attacking, making it less important on odd man fights and more important in 1v1 situations.


Meh, I think slows are better than ms boosts as a rule, mostly because of how this game calculates them.

Also, IMO, even if Ghost was given the old Surge as a bonus, IMO Exhaust would still be a stronger combat skill for the majority of champs.


No no, I do think slows are better than ms boosts, I like that it's getting a minor nerf.

Why? Think of the phage users, none of them are good right now.
Freeeeeeedom
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 16 2013 05:39 GMT
#5240
"Ranked queues diasbled" Ok, I'll join an ARAM. Get Caitlyn. Timer runs down. Been stuck in lobby for 15 minutes now.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
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