[Patch 3.09: Spirit Guard Udyr Patch] General Discussion -…

On July 10 2013 14:41 Amui wrote:


Assuming somewhere between 350-400AD jayce(this is very common lategame for a jayce)

Jayce gets 4 muramana procs(2 ranged autos, 1 melee auto + E), enhanced auto damage(130%), and 3 damaging skills.

Each auto does about 600 base damage including muramana. That's 1800. Q is 750 Then there's E, which is another 400+20%+muramana proc, and an R enhanced auto for 140 bonus damage.

So now you're at 1800+750+100(muramana E) for a total of 2650 physical damage. Then there's 540+20% in magic.

And if you do it correctly, you pull this off in about 2 seconds. Without a EQ ranged combo. Jayce can and does combo squishies in the lategame(that includes ADC, they don't burst as hard as jayce, although a trist/cait/kog who crits a couple of times will still kill you before you get close enough), you just don't see it done that often because of how vulnerable he is.

On July 10 2013 14:22 Waxangel wrote:
so apparently gundamwerra went off the radar and reinvenited himself as the leader of the MOOK clan, and apparently he is being accused of tryign to sexually assault his underage clan members again?

On July 10 2013 13:27 Gahlo wrote:

With his recent pro play, people are actually playing him properly now. They might drop working on him.

On July 10 2013 16:07 mr_tolkien wrote:

Well knowing you I imagine you're not saying that ouf of nowhere...

Seriously, what the fuck. I thought this guy would have been banned from any e-sport structure forever :/

On July 10 2013 16:14 Scip wrote:
^^^^^^ rammus is super situational, I wouldn't say he is worth learning if you care about winning a lot tbh

On July 10 2013 16:38 wussleeQ wrote:
is the true damage added on or just ad = true damage. it would suck for ranged and probably be too expensive for melees to be viable

On July 10 2013 16:26 Scip wrote:
He is just very weak early game, getting counterganked will get you fked almost 100% of the time unless you have alevel advantage, and that is very difficult to aquire due to your slow farming. If you get into lvl8 or so without falling significantly behind you WILL outscale every single jungler in the game as far as teamfights are concerned, AS LONG AS THERE ARE GOOD TARGETS FOR YOU TO FOCUS. So that condition needs to be met AND you need to be able to survive the early game which isn't possible against a lot of comps.
So yeah very situational. I mean just try to imagine scenario when you'd rather get Rammus than Eve or Elise or Nunu.

I do generally prefer him over stuff like Nautilus, Sejuani or god forbid Maokai who also suffer from weak early game but I think the new gen. junglers are just better.

Also Rammus sucks in bot-top laneswaps

On July 10 2013 16:33 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
So, if there were an item in LoL like this:

Divine Rapier

UNIQUE Passive - Blabla: Basic attacks deal true damage. (*50% for ranged)


How much would it have to cost to be balanced? How about an effect that destroys the item upon death?

On July 10 2013 16:46 sob3k wrote:


It would never be truly balanced in that it would never produce enjoyable gameplay.

Incredibly powerful super weapons are shitty to play with because by nature of their power they have no counterplay, or are incredibly binary (divine rapier). Rapier is barely ever used (correct me if i'm wrong), and an equivalent item in LoL would be even worse because the comparative weakness of skills and CC available.