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On July 11 2013 14:58 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2013 14:32 sung_moon wrote:
With EVO (fighting game tournament) coming up soon, my one friend is like "Man wish EVO was as big as LoL", and in my head, I imagined the huge panels from Allstars that displayed what champ was picked, and how siqq it would be if they had that for EVO but with the characters/assist in Mahvel. I forget what that fallacy is called where you think something is a coincidence but really it's not or some shit, but I rarely ever play fighting games, and yet I just spent the last half hour looking at Skullgirls info. I remember it looking really awesome and then hearing all the DLC got cancelled since the company was sued or some shit but APPARENTLY they're coming out with a PC version and new characters! With the Steam sale coming up and having no time to play any sort of game that take more than 5 minutes (or can't be paused) I'm thinking of picking it up.
Steam beta, my friends in it playing story mode of one of the new characters.
SG is one of the few FG's I actually don't partake/watch, but its not bad.
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for the jungler in a lot of cases the double aura makes it still worthwhile (since the vast majority of popular junglers are good at engaging)
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On July 11 2013 15:01 Cheap0 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2013 14:08 Zhiroo wrote:On July 11 2013 12:39 Ketara wrote:
I'm starting to realize that Aegis is a toxic item.
It is, hands down, the best item in the game. Provides the most stats to a team per gold, to the point where unless you're against an all AD team basically every team has to have one as fast as possible.
It is so gold efficient that if you want a tank item and the team doesn't have an Aegis yet you want to build an Aegis in basically every situation possible.
This is toxic for a couple reasons.
#1, it severely limits item choices for junglers and supports. Whichever role is getting the Aegis, they basically HAVE to have it as their first big item, no matter what character they're playing. But a lot of characters don't want to do this because Aegis is not a "fun" item, it just provides a lump of defensive stats. It has nothing in it that is neat or interesting, it's just super good.
#2, at lower ELO games, there are games where a team just doesn't buy an Aegis because their characters don't understand how ridiculously good it is, and end up straight up losing the game because of it. One item should not have that big an impact on the game. This is probably most visible in ARAM actually, which is luls.
Plz discuss. As a Silver league support I hate this item. Not because it's a bad or strong item I know it's an awesome item but many times I just assume the junglers will get it (watching too much LCS) so I skip it and then I tab at 20th minute to see that the jungler didn't even buy Emblem of Valor yet and thus we're in a game where I have to start building one mid game because junglers in this level don't understand the importance of this item. (Sometimes even when I ask the jungler if he'll get it and they reply yes). Speaking of Emblem of Valor,I love this item so much I really really wish there were more items that build from it. Don't feel like Banner of Command is worth buying. As a jungler near that Elo range, I tend to hold off on getting it since it seems like every support player is in a rush to get it. If you don't grab the Emblem of Valor as the first component, then the support will start on it. Hell, even if you do get it, the support will often start on it since a lot of supports are just in the habit of getting Aegis every single game after their GP10's and boots and don't actually check your items. The whole "jungler's get the Aegis" thing just hasn't really filtered down yet. It's a shame honestly, cause it'd be nice to have a good MR option open to me. I won't even touch Aegis unless I'm confident that the support's not going to get it.
What would solve both your problems is to start the game with "hey do you plan on buying aegis? if so how early?"
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As a jungler at scrubelo aegis is a bit of an odd one for me. I tend to play champs that need a 2nd big item for X reason before they can start having a major effect midgame.
For instance playing hecarim (before 2ND nerf wave Q.QQQQQQQQ) i tried skipping sheen and going straight aegis. The result? I couldn't splitpush, i did zero damage and when it came to chasing, i was fucked because i didnt have it upgraded into frozen fist.
Tell me what a hecarim can do in a midgame teamfight with no damage and shitty chase skillz. Granted your Ulti can outright win fights and your E is going to position someone for a kill if used properly, but after that you just sorta wander round shouting NEIGH NEIGH
So aegis as a 2nd item is very situational on junglers imo, if its not his 3rd then he needs to gtfo though.
(For those interested my BO was chete+5->stone+boots->lizard/sheen->boots2+other->fist->aegis with 4/6 wards imbetween because people suck.)
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So Master Yi now has two additional taunts, both of which go on for an absurdly long time, and yet have an equal probability of playing as the One True Taunt. Hence the One True Taunt is being played maybe a sixth of the time while taunt spamming; instead, Yi randomly muses about how many eyes he has.
0/10 rework, would not slam with.
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Anyone in NA having server problems?
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On July 11 2013 15:56 wei2coolman wrote:
Anyone in NA having server problems?
yep theres some bug right now involving tiamat that dcs everyone and makes the game not exist. Id suggest staying away from ranked for the time being.
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On July 11 2013 16:08 Rice wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2013 15:56 wei2coolman wrote:
Anyone in NA having server problems? yep theres some bug right now involving tiamat that dcs everyone and makes the game not exist. Id suggest staying away from ranked for the time being.
Don't you mean, spam ranked and never lose elo?
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On July 11 2013 14:56 ItsFunToLose wrote:am I the only person who wishes they'd rotate the infinity edge icon horizontally? OCD inducing picture incoming + Show Spoiler +muramana, black cleaver, brutalizer, blade of the ruined king, phage etc... all oriented southwest to north east.
Infinity Edge, BF Sword, Stinger, Dagger, Pick Axe, SOTEL, Frozen Mallet, Nashor's Tooth, Wit's End, Executioner's calling, and a whole bunch of things that aren't swords face northwest to southeast.
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I think they hot fixed the tiamat thing? I've been messing around with it in a custom, and it hasn't been working.
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After playing Draven with his new passive, it feels a bit lack luster. I think they either need to up the gold per stack (by 1), make it so you only lose 1/4th (1/3rd?) the stacks upon dying, or maybe make it so assists give 1/4th the stacks as gold. I racked up about 230 stacks before my first kill, end up with 7 kills over a 30 minute game, which was worth 1k gold. Given about 40% of that gold came in junk time, that's not so great. It let me complete my phantom dancer sooner (3 kills was about 650ish gold), and depending on the circumstances that could be quite strong. But I can't really foresee any condition where it would let him snowball, because 200 stacks of the passive is about 10-15 minutes of last hitting with axes up. If you're crushing lane the passive is pretty inconsequential, and if you're in a relatively close game you lose stacks from dying very easily.
It's basically a weaker version of TF passive that I actually have to work for and be careful that I'm not dying (although TF's gold is spread out over 5 people). Maybe I'm just a spoiled Draven player, I don't know. 
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On July 11 2013 16:14 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2013 16:08 Rice wrote:On July 11 2013 15:56 wei2coolman wrote:
Anyone in NA having server problems? yep theres some bug right now involving tiamat that dcs everyone and makes the game not exist. Id suggest staying away from ranked for the time being. Don't you mean, spam ranked and never lose elo?
or gain elo, because the enemy is using it too.
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On July 11 2013 15:20 Capped wrote:
As a jungler at scrubelo aegis is a bit of an odd one for me. I tend to play champs that need a 2nd big item for X reason before they can start having a major effect midgame.
For instance playing hecarim (before 2ND nerf wave Q.QQQQQQQQ) i tried skipping sheen and going straight aegis. The result? I couldn't splitpush, i did zero damage and when it came to chasing, i was fucked because i didnt have it upgraded into frozen fist.
Tell me what a hecarim can do in a midgame teamfight with no damage and shitty chase skillz. Granted your Ulti can outright win fights and your E is going to position someone for a kill if used properly, but after that you just sorta wander round shouting NEIGH NEIGH
So aegis as a 2nd item is very situational on junglers imo, if its not his 3rd then he needs to gtfo though.
(For those interested my BO was chete+5->stone+boots->lizard/sheen->boots2+other->fist->aegis with 4/6 wards imbetween because people suck.)
I... hate that build order, and would never run it myself because it just feels like you die in midgame teamfights from having no defensive items, even though I like all the items involved. Aegis before fist, easily. Aegis really needs to START before you're 6k gold into the game, for a jungler unless you're picking up kills everywhere (you won't always be, be honest) that can come at like 30 minutes into the game.
Not a single defense item at all until 4.5k gold in (which is when you start the glacial shroud half of IBG)? Not even a single ruby crystal? @_@ how do you SURVIVE ANYTHING?
Tell me what a hecarim can do in a midgame teamfight when he's made of paper. When those hecarims are on the other team, I let everyone on my team know to just blow him up every time he ults, and I cleanse the fear off and do the same. You're not an assassin, you need to stay alive to spam Q in order to be relevant in teamfights. You need defenses so when you press W, you can start winning the battle between incoming damage and healing off your own team's damage.
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Welp, time to return jayce ... The nerf was fine, but I feel like the Tear nerf + jayce nerf is too much
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On July 11 2013 16:38 RagequitBM wrote:
I think they hot fixed the tiamat thing? I've been messing around with it in a custom, and it hasn't been working.
No, I can personally guarantee it still works. Fortunately nobody has used it against me, and I've climbed quite a bit of elo :D
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On July 10 2013 22:11 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 21:39 DanielZKlein wrote:
Spirit Guard Udyr will be unlocked in a couple of days, once the patch is stable. Wow. For the first time ever I can directly respond with RIOTPLS. Really though, thanks for coming out and explaining all this! It's super helpful for all us immediately whiny and obsessively theorycrafting wackos. More importantly, I think you've officially become a more frequent poster than Smash with just this. Congrats.
Sorry to fail you TL  . I feel super super spread thin on forum attention span these days. I leave you in DKlein's capable hands.
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On July 11 2013 17:08 GhandiEAGLE wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2013 16:38 RagequitBM wrote:
I think they hot fixed the tiamat thing? I've been messing around with it in a custom, and it hasn't been working. No, I can personally guarantee it still works. Fortunately nobody has used it against me, and I've climbed quite a bit of elo :D
Dude... exploiting that shit is a grade-A dick move in my book. You're a dick.
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I can hardly play on the new patch. I freeze and lag out a lot. I have a lot of people on my friend's list saying that it is indeed happening to them, and some who say it's not. It makes playing super difficult because I don't really know if I hit a CS, then I'll miss another one because i missed 2 auto attack windows. I was against a teemo earlier and I wanted to kill myself. Took so much free damage, and eventually I had to switch lanes becuase I just couldn't do it. I hope this gets fixed asap
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Is Jayce still viable with the E nerf (understandable) AND the Tear nerf (a bit harder) ? Have ppl tried making him work since then ? How does it feel ?
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