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[News] SPL and KeSPA's Upcoming Reform - Page 3

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DRTnOOber
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
New Zealand476 Posts
July 04 2013 06:09 GMT
#41
I don't understand... does this mean that there will be no more SC2 Proleague? Is it being replaced by LoL?
But I'm off creep... and so I slow down, what are hellions doing here? I don't belong here...
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
July 04 2013 06:11 GMT
#42
On July 04 2013 15:06 sM.Zik wrote:
Still trying to figure how this is related to Sc2.


It's related to SC2 in the sense that:

(1) Two KeSPA is having new teams which may involve and related to their SC2 counterparts.

(2) The influence of diversifying resources of KeSPA and SPL to LoL on SC2.

JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
July 04 2013 06:12 GMT
#43
On July 04 2013 15:08 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
Good for LoL. But I'm echoing others in wondering why this is in the SC2 forum.


I guess it's related in the sense that GOM's announcement of WoT was in the SC2 forum.
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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
July 04 2013 06:13 GMT
#44
On July 04 2013 15:04 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 15:03 Fionn wrote:
So Champions is going to be the OSL and they're going have their very own Proleague.


how does this even work when It's already a team game? How can proleague differentiate itself from Champions?


Right now Champions is Ro16, four groups of four teams, round robin Bo2. Then it goes into a eight man playoff. Similar to OSL. They have a Summer, Winter and Spring season, like OSL used to have with three tournaments a year.

Proleague would probably be twelve or so teams round robin going over the course of a year.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 04 2013 06:13 GMT
#45
On July 04 2013 15:12 JBright wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 15:08 LlamaNamedOsama wrote:
Good for LoL. But I'm echoing others in wondering why this is in the SC2 forum.


I guess it's related in the sense that GOM's announcement of WoT was in the SC2 forum.


right, but community news? Dreamhack released their casters yesterday and that thread wasn't community news'd but this is?
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
July 04 2013 06:15 GMT
#46
On July 04 2013 15:04 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 15:03 Fionn wrote:
So Champions is going to be the OSL and they're going have their very own Proleague.


how does this even work when It's already a team game? How can proleague differentiate itself from Champions?

SPL = full-blown round robin
Champions = Elimination tournament

Think about English Premier League & UEFA Champions League
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
July 04 2013 06:15 GMT
#47
On July 04 2013 15:13 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 15:04 Dodgin wrote:
On July 04 2013 15:03 Fionn wrote:
So Champions is going to be the OSL and they're going have their very own Proleague.


how does this even work when It's already a team game? How can proleague differentiate itself from Champions?


Right now Champions is Ro16, four groups of four teams, round robin Bo2. Then it goes into a eight man playoff. Similar to OSL. They have a Summer, Winter and Spring season, like OSL used to have with three tournaments a year.

Proleague would probably be twelve or so teams round robin going over the course of a year.


So, potentially even less TV time for SC2?
SnakEhead
Profile Joined April 2011
United States62 Posts
July 04 2013 06:18 GMT
#48
I think sc2 success or lack there of in Korea is, because of popularity of lol. Broodwar was the only popular game for years with little competition from other developers. Now we have starcraft 2, dota2, and lol. I think LOL is taking away viewers who would normally be watching sc2.
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larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 06:24:06
July 04 2013 06:21 GMT
#49
On July 04 2013 15:18 SnakEhead wrote:
I think sc2 success or lack there of in Korea is, because of popularity of lol. Broodwar was the only popular game for years with little competition from other developers. Now we have starcraft 2, dota2, and lol. I think LOL is taking away viewers who would normally be watching sc2.


Not really. BW had been a popular game but it was not top 1 since maybe 2005. So BW was no where close to the popularity of LoL. If you want, I have data to back up.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 04 2013 06:23 GMT
#50
On July 04 2013 15:13 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 15:04 Dodgin wrote:
On July 04 2013 15:03 Fionn wrote:
So Champions is going to be the OSL and they're going have their very own Proleague.


how does this even work when It's already a team game? How can proleague differentiate itself from Champions?


Right now Champions is Ro16, four groups of four teams, round robin Bo2. Then it goes into a eight man playoff. Similar to OSL. They have a Summer, Winter and Spring season, like OSL used to have with three tournaments a year.

Proleague would probably be twelve or so teams round robin going over the course of a year.


If they did a Proleague though, I assume it would mean only Kespa teams and no qualifications, like how it was in bw/sc2. Also how do they handle KT, SKT and others having multiple teams? Do they let all of their teams in, only one team? Wouldn't having a team league that excludes the recent OGN champion's MVP Ozone be a terrible idea?
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 06:26:11
July 04 2013 06:24 GMT
#51
On July 04 2013 15:18 SnakEhead wrote:
I think sc2 success or lack there of in Korea is, because of popularity of lol. Broodwar was the only popular game for years with little competition from other developers. Now we have starcraft 2, dota2, and lol. I think LOL is taking away viewers who would normally be watching sc2.

I think it's Blizzard's fault for their feud with KeSPA and eventually picking the wrong party to promote Sc2. Theres almost no LoL back in late 2010/2011 you know
The side effect was that OGN ended up picking another game as their flagship. And so we arrive at this point when LoL has taken over everything included the beach
larse
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1611 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 06:26:13
July 04 2013 06:25 GMT
#52
[image loading]

Screenshot from Yesterday's LoL Champions. You can see they had a KeSPA sign there, which was not there before yesterday.

KeSPA has been considered by many didn't have the control over even their team's LoL part. But this seems like a completely centralization of KeSPA's control over LoL.
asdfOu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States2089 Posts
July 04 2013 06:26 GMT
#53
how mad am i right now? i want to kill a baby
rip prime
insanet
Profile Joined January 2010
Peru439 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 06:31:29
July 04 2013 06:27 GMT
#54
holy shit, you know SC2 is not popular in Korea when even KeSPA is gonna side with LoL, im gonna blame it all Blizzard, they never listened to us the BW audience (Korean or Foreigner),they said if you want to play BW just play BW, well, this is the result KeSPA is going with LoL now
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51543 Posts
July 04 2013 06:27 GMT
#55
On July 04 2013 14:57 sLideSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 14:46 GTR wrote:
The new KeSPA teams are most likely going to be LG-IM (with LG Electronics as their head sponsor) and MVP (with Lotte Chilsung as their head sponsor) - they both have SC2 teams as well to participate in Proleague.

With STX pretty much taking over CTU, only Woongjin and Samsung remain teams without LoL squads. I wouldn't be surprised if one of them picked up ESG (former SKT T1 #1).

The only downside to this is that SC2 may be demoted to Special Force status in terms of Proleague pecking order.

What about Startale with Red Bull? The Lotte sponsorship is known to be product-only, I don't think they are behind mvp to the level that redbull is behind startale or lg is behind im


Startale don't operate a LoL team. Red Bull also aren't a Korean company.
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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
July 04 2013 06:29 GMT
#56
Sad that SC2 is going to move down the ranks in terms of importance with this :/
KnadRa
Profile Joined July 2012
United States56 Posts
July 04 2013 06:32 GMT
#57
Looks like Kespa is trying to break into the LoL scene, doesn't seem to have any relation to Starcraft so I'm not sure why its marked here.
The diamond league destroyer
KnadRa
Profile Joined July 2012
United States56 Posts
July 04 2013 06:35 GMT
#58
On July 04 2013 15:18 SnakEhead wrote:
I think sc2 success or lack there of in Korea is, because of popularity of lol. Broodwar was the only popular game for years with little competition from other developers. Now we have starcraft 2, dota2, and lol. I think LOL is taking away viewers who would normally be watching sc2.



Dota 2 is non-existent in Korea for the most part, Starcraft 2 was its only real competitor.
The diamond league destroyer
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
July 04 2013 06:35 GMT
#59
Why is this under Sc2 General? There was zero sc2 news in there.
malady
Profile Joined November 2010
United States600 Posts
July 04 2013 06:37 GMT
#60
On July 04 2013 15:24 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 15:18 SnakEhead wrote:
I think sc2 success or lack there of in Korea is, because of popularity of lol. Broodwar was the only popular game for years with little competition from other developers. Now we have starcraft 2, dota2, and lol. I think LOL is taking away viewers who would normally be watching sc2.

I think it's Blizzard's fault for their feud with KeSPA and eventually picking the wrong party to promote Sc2. Theres almost no LoL back in late 2010/2011 you know
The side effect was that OGN ended up picking another game as their flagship. And so we arrive at this point when LoL has taken over everything included the beach



man going to have to agree with this statement
dumchu
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