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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-06 14:16:34
July 06 2013 14:14 GMT
#421
On July 06 2013 21:52 Aeleron wrote:
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On July 06 2013 20:42 evilfatsh1t wrote:
On July 06 2013 17:57 XaCez wrote:
On July 06 2013 17:03 RockIronrod wrote:
On July 06 2013 17:01 XaCez wrote:
On July 06 2013 16:56 RockIronrod wrote:
On July 06 2013 16:52 XaCez wrote:
On July 06 2013 11:04 amazingxkcd wrote:
On July 06 2013 10:45 larse wrote:
On July 06 2013 09:40 StarStruck wrote:
[quote]

It's funny because you remember how everyone was saying oh shit why does D3 have to be so cartoony, it's lost it's gritty dark colors, roar! Well, in this instance, I actually think it helps from a spectator stand-point to have distinct colors so everything stands out. When I first started watching Dota2 I found it incredibly hard on the eyes, especially on the Dire side and even on the Radiant side the colors just feel really subdued/diluted. You know what I mean? I think it's actually easier to follow the Brood War action compared to SC2 as well.

Time will tell how the Nexon League does, but I wouldn't cross my fingers. Nexon has let me down so many times that I've lost track.


Things in LoL are less distinguishable than Dota2.

Things in BW are more distinguishable than SC2.

LoL is more popular than Dota2 in Korea at the current time

BW is more popular than SC2 in Korea

We think we all know Asian aesthetics

But seriously, SC2's lighting is really very dark. And I have no idea why so many Americans and Europeans like this undistinguishable style.


FTFY
Nexon went with GOM over OGN, and we all know how well that turned out for SC2. But sure, please do provide me evidence that point towards Dota 2 reaching above LoL's unprecedented popularity in Korea.

Wait, are you saying LoL is more popular than Brood War ever was?
It is reaching BW's peak, and in the current state no game is even close to as popular as LoL is in Korea.

You had me confused with your use of "unprecedented."
Well I do not know, but did BW ever have 40% of the share at PC Bangs? Just taking this as an example.

not exactly what u mean by "share", but bw was the most played game in pc bangs for YEARS. not even lol will have surpassed the amount of hours bw was played in pc bangs. of course, theres no way to actually calculate it, but just by looking at the number of years lol has been popular in korea vs bw was, brood war still wins.


Of course LoL wouldn't have come close to number of hours BW played in pc bangs, it's been out for 15 years.


The 40% percent meant at the current time. We're not looking at how many people played it over the years. There was a lot of luck involved man, Hanbit distributed the game the same time Korea's internet infrastructure went up and the rest is history.

On July 06 2013 23:10 MasterCynical wrote:
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On July 06 2013 06:59 iky43210 wrote:
LoL is to moba is like what COD is to FPS. The main difference is Activision did not do enough to promote its esport section like what riot did with LoL, which is why it was never caught in a wild fire (f2p helped tremendously too).

Also its no wonder kespa is moving away from SC2. Look at the OSL tourneys, people would rather watch it through GOM than from their website.


Foreign views probably have very little to do with their decisions. Theyre a korean organization with korean companies, all the sponsors are korean companies. They care about the korean viewership and the korean viewers are what drives their decisions. Yeah, the foreign views and fans do matter to them, but to a much lesser extent.


Yep, we're tagging along for the ride so I say enjoy it. We owe a lot to our Korean Overlords and Oh Golorious Leader. ( )
Cattlecruiser
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
July 06 2013 22:45 GMT
#422
Chemistry has a pretty high skill ceiling...

People are over-thinking the relationship between different games to eSports. The best way to approach it is to enjoy the content that you find enjoyable. If you are very passionate about a specific genre, you can support it financially or with your time/skill. It isn't like you are going to be able to force others to enjoy something that they don't, just focus on increasing exposure of your game if you are indeed that passionate about it.
Nyvis
Profile Joined November 2012
France284 Posts
July 06 2013 22:51 GMT
#423

Also its no wonder kespa is moving away from SC2. Look at the OSL tourneys, people would rather watch it through GOM than from their website.


The OSL handling of the event is decent, the only problem is the casters, and it only affects european viewership.
I don't think the ratio of people watching from gom is as big in korea. And since Kespa cares only about korean viewership, it should not be a problem.
The real problem is the size of the scene and the money in it. LoL is huge in term of playerbase and potential viewerbase. The shame is it's a decent game, but it's pretty bad to watch (long games for not that much interesting action/plays. The good ones are really interesting to watch, but it's diluted in a lot of parts without action).
EvilTeletubby
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
July 06 2013 23:35 GMT
#424
Moved to LoL.
Moderatorhttp://carbonleaf.yuku.com/topic/408/t/So-I-proposed-at-a-Carbon-Leaf-concert.html ***** RIP Geoff
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
July 06 2013 23:38 GMT
#425
hey neo, can we add "skill ceiling" to banned topics?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 06 2013 23:41 GMT
#426
Oh good, now I don't have to enable SC2 to see this thread.

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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 06 2013 23:54 GMT
#427
On July 07 2013 08:38 LaNague wrote:
hey neo, can we add "skill ceiling" to banned topics?

l0l, I would but I don't think it's been an issue in our subforum before. @_@

On July 07 2013 08:41 TheYango wrote:
Oh good, now I don't have to enable SC2 to see this thread.

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l0l, I'm old school and I use Subscribed Threads. Get with the program, yanger.
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zodiaczerg
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
Canada63 Posts
July 07 2013 08:53 GMT
#428
This could end up being good or Bad. It's too soon to officially tell... Hopefully both League and Starcraft can just peacefully coexist with each being watched by their respective audience.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-07 20:40:41
July 07 2013 20:38 GMT
#429
And noone was suprised; LoL is retardedly popular in Korea

#ESPORTS

Okay to clarify: I can't possibly imagining doing anything but saturate the e-sport audience with more viewers, heck, I could even see sc2 PL being supported by since a game as retardedly popular as LoL being aired on the same "stage" could bring more viewers to SC2

I wonder if they could do something like the Sudden attack / BW merge, was an interesting idea atleast
In the woods, there lurks..
diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
July 08 2013 02:22 GMT
#430
On July 04 2013 14:04 larse wrote:
Riot's representative said that holding global tournaments in Korea is like holding world cup in Brazil--it's crazily good. They hope regions will have more cooperation.


Probably not the best timed comment.
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
July 08 2013 20:37 GMT
#431
This guy is heavily implying a KeSPA LoL league, if that wasn't already known: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1hu5tv/the_korean_pro_lol_scene/
>Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right
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