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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On July 08 2013 08:48 obesechicken13 wrote: Yeah, a player owned team is really the best for the players involved, but I feel like that can be a strength and a weakness. How do teens deal with issues that they don't agree with? Do they vote? Do they all sign something that says it requires 4/5 votes to kick someone from the team? I actually think a professionally owned team would probably be the best for performance and fairness issues. We've seen the trouble with certain player-dominated teams in NA, and these manager-dominated problems also come to light. But this is nothing new with SPORTS look at Scottie Pippen as an example. The key is dealing with organizations who have just as much to lose (reputation wise and financially) as yourself. Do you think Quallcomm is going to try to stiff TSM over $15k? Similarly, Regi knows that his reputation and the TSM brand is worth more than a minor squabble over the last months of Chaox's salary (notice how there was no story about he wasn't paid or something like that). Its like if you have an affair with Michelle Obama. She is not gonna be snitching on you. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Either my math is bad, or there's something wrong regarding vision and projectiles. :| (First one was a long time ago, a Zyra walks into a brush while the projectile flies, she's alone, no heals, barriers, nothing, Q on cd and mana spent and she doesn't die from her 18 HP. Just had it happen with a very low HP Vayne who Tumbles with ult active right after I Q, the spear flies, Vayne reappears... unscathed. I know some spells get cancelled when you lose vision (Naut's ult on Akali), but afaik none is actually supposed to go on cooldown and cost the mana, nothing refunded, while actually doing nothing.) In the same vein, how does Graves' W work? I thought as long as I W somebody, don't stay in the AoE, and don't attack them, they don't have vision of me. However I've had several instances of people attacking me when all the conditions are met (implying they somehow have vision of me), so I must be missing something and misusing it, but I have no idea what. The wiki doesn't seem to list anything more. | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
On July 08 2013 05:56 TheYango wrote: More like play aggressive and crush him, then blame your jungler when you get ganked. This happened :O Thanks  | ||
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remedium
United States939 Posts
On July 08 2013 08:23 caelym wrote: Hey guys, anyone remember the post I made about how someone should do an investigative report on the balance of power in the LoL eSports ecosystem? Also not sure how much I can say but GGU also had their fair share of manager/owner/scam issues. Basically if your team ever makes it big, the safest bet is to go with an established eSports org or get a player (or players) to have legal ownership of the team. Without knowing the full details of the contracts Riot and teams use, I feel like there should be a clause somewhere that requires all salary funds to be kept in escrow to ensure the players receive the money. It seems like a pretty ridiculous oversight on behalf of Riot's legal team, given the tumultuous history of payments in emerging Esports. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On July 08 2013 09:31 Alaric wrote: That's the 2nd time I cast Q as Pantheon, lose mana/have it on cd, see the particle flying, lose vision of the target who's low HP, and it survives, seemingly taking 0 damage. Either my math is bad, or there's something wrong regarding vision and projectiles. :| (First one was a long time ago, a Zyra walks into a brush while the projectile flies, she's alone, no heals, barriers, nothing, Q on cd and mana spent and she doesn't die from her 18 HP. Just had it happen with a very low HP Vayne who Tumbles with ult active right after I Q, the spear flies, Vayne reappears... unscathed. I know some spells get cancelled when you lose vision (Naut's ult on Akali), but afaik none is actually supposed to go on cooldown and cost the mana, nothing refunded, while actually doing nothing.) In the same vein, how does Graves' W work? I thought as long as I W somebody, don't stay in the AoE, and don't attack them, they don't have vision of me. However I've had several instances of people attacking me when all the conditions are met (implying they somehow have vision of me), so I must be missing something and misusing it, but I have no idea what. The wiki doesn't seem to list anything more. Not sure about Patheon's Q, but Grave's W doesn't complete shut down vision. It reduces vision by 675, so if you happen to be in their range, they can still see you and attack you. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On July 08 2013 08:48 canikizu wrote: I don't think people need to play the game at high level to recognize the pattern though. For example, I doubt Yango play at high level in any games of these two, yet people in both Dota and LoL forum respect his opinions and all he does is pointing out the patterns. He actually does play at a rather high level in both games and he also has really good access to the chinese material | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On July 08 2013 09:31 Alaric wrote: That's the 2nd time I cast Q as Pantheon, lose mana/have it on cd, see the particle flying, lose vision of the target who's low HP, and it survives, seemingly taking 0 damage. Either my math is bad, or there's something wrong regarding vision and projectiles. :| (First one was a long time ago, a Zyra walks into a brush while the projectile flies, she's alone, no heals, barriers, nothing, Q on cd and mana spent and she doesn't die from her 18 HP. Just had it happen with a very low HP Vayne who Tumbles with ult active right after I Q, the spear flies, Vayne reappears... unscathed. I know some spells get cancelled when you lose vision (Naut's ult on Akali), but afaik none is actually supposed to go on cooldown and cost the mana, nothing refunded, while actually doing nothing.) In the same vein, how does Graves' W work? I thought as long as I W somebody, don't stay in the AoE, and don't attack them, they don't have vision of me. However I've had several instances of people attacking me when all the conditions are met (implying they somehow have vision of me), so I must be missing something and misusing it, but I have no idea what. The wiki doesn't seem to list anything more. Taric's stun recently had a bug where it wouldn't stun if the target left vision before the projectile hit, submit a bug report? | ||
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Cheap0
United States540 Posts
There might just be a bug with stealth and abilities affecting stealthed champions right now. | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
Tower dive 24/7 starting at level 3. So stupid. | ||
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caelym
United States6421 Posts
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
I miss the MS quints though, but at least you have the out of combat runspeed from utility. I used to play phoenix udyr all the time, but this is so different because your bear->tiger burst is SO high that no one can fight you, and if they do you turn turtle->bear->tiger again and just kill them. EDIT: I picked him because I saw the other team had j4/lee, who have to be in melee range, and the rest of their team lacked escapes. I'd imagine udyr still sucks against teams with lots of cc/slows/escapes. | ||
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niukasu1990
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On July 08 2013 11:15 Cheap0 wrote: There's a bug where if Morgana hits a stealthed target with Dark Binding, it doesn't root them in place. There might just be a bug with stealth and abilities affecting stealthed champions right now. This bug used to occur in the past and I don't think anything is in the patch notes. Riot should make sure to test stuff that's broken before. And perhaps include all changes in the patch notes. Here's another bug. I noticed as Ori on Saturday that many of my autos shot after moving failed. I thought it was just a bug with the champion. http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1htlbg/whats_with_all_the_aa_cancelling_at_the_moment/ | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On July 08 2013 08:35 Amui wrote: "Mega creeps are stronger versions of regular lane creeps that give less gold and experience to the enemy when killed" The bigger issue I think is that it's harder to make big plays to come back in League vs Dota because power levels are so much more homogenous in league. Primary way to come back in League is just to turtle, farm to reduce the relative difference and hope for an overcommital/overextension. I was referring to mega creeps in LoL. In LoL, when your inhibs are down there's very little net change in gold income for that lane. In Dota, the lane income decreases. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
got stomped in lane so hard by Karthus. Had fun though; the ball mechanic this is so well designed; shame Riot doesn't design champs like this anymore. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On July 08 2013 13:20 wei2coolman wrote: First time playing Orianna in like a year and half; forgot how stupid hard this champion is to use >.< got stomped in lane so hard by Karthus. Had fun though; the ball mechanic this is so well designed; shame Riot doesn't design champs like this anymore. I watched regi steam a solo queue game as Ori. He was spamming buttons all game. This revelation helped my play a lot. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On July 08 2013 13:29 cLutZ wrote: I watched regi steam a solo queue game as Ori. He was spamming buttons all game. This revelation helped my play a lot. Went chalice and tears. Facerolled qwe til minion wave died. Was fun. | ||
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