• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:12
CEST 09:12
KST 16:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5
Community News
Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou17Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four2BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET7Weekly Cups (Oct 6-12): Four star herO85.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)81
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8) Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Weekly Cups (March 17-23): Clem Bounces Back
Tourneys
Tenacious Turtle Tussle RSL Season 3 Qualifier Links and Dates $1,200 WardiTV October (Oct 21st-31st) SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 INu's Battles #13 - ByuN vs Zoun
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers
Brood War
General
SnOw's Awful Building Placements vs barracks BSL Team A vs Koreans - Sat-Sun 16:00 CET Is there anyway to get a private coach? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues 300$ 3D!Community Brood War Super Cup #4 [ASL20] Semifinal B Azhi's Colosseum - Anonymous Tournament
Strategy
Current Meta BW - ajfirecracker Strategy & Training Roaring Currents ASL final [I] Funny Protoss Builds/Strategies
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Chess Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Men's Fashion Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Series you have seen recently... [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Sabrina was soooo lame on S…
Peanutsc
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Certified Crazy
Hildegard
Rocket League: Traits, Abili…
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1546 users

[Patch 3.08: Aatrox Patch] General Discussion - Page 316

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 314 315 316 317 318 380 Next
Interested in helping start an on-topic, serious League discussion thread? PM Neo to talk about how to get started.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35160 Posts
July 04 2013 09:14 GMT
#6301
Suffice to say, I am thoroughly amused. Anything more would be ungraceful.
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
July 04 2013 09:15 GMT
#6302
On July 04 2013 17:43 glzElectromaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 17:25 XaCez wrote:
Apparently StarsWar 8 is this weekend, OMG, WE, MVP Ozone etc., is there any information about it?

http://leaguepedia.com/wiki/StarsWar_8


Ozone vs KTA sounds more like a Matador beating up a bull rather than an equal match lol.


All Maknoon has to do is out-lane Homme and he'll be the best top-laner in the world again.

Maknoon > Homme > Flame > Shy

Hell yeah!
TL+ Member
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
July 04 2013 09:18 GMT
#6303
On July 04 2013 18:15 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 17:43 glzElectromaster wrote:
On July 04 2013 17:25 XaCez wrote:
Apparently StarsWar 8 is this weekend, OMG, WE, MVP Ozone etc., is there any information about it?

http://leaguepedia.com/wiki/StarsWar_8


Ozone vs KTA sounds more like a Matador beating up a bull rather than an equal match lol.


All Maknoon has to do is out-lane Homme and he'll be the best top-laner in the world again.

Maknoon > Homme > Flame > Shy

Hell yeah!


O_o I think you are still damaged from Pray world class Draven
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 09:35:43
July 04 2013 09:30 GMT
#6304
On July 04 2013 09:15 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 09:11 sylverfyre wrote:
On July 04 2013 05:33 Diamond wrote:
Just got my first penta.

Positive side, it was Ezreal not some reset champ like Kat.

Negative side, it was an ARAM ;(


Grats. I had what would have been my first penta, stolen yesterday. (Summoner's rift, I was Ryze.)

I've only got 2 ace quadras, not even a chance for penta.


I got my first Penta with a Sivir W. I didn't even know I got it until I read the chat log. I was useless all game, so they didnt focus me, and I just quietly KS'd all 5.

Come to think of it, I didn't realize I was about to get my second until I heard my friends screaming "Don't let him get a penta" over skype. I focus too much on my champion I guess.
Also, I wish we saw Sivir in competitive more, Sivir Graves is such an abusive lane. I can see why we never do though. She feels bad to play compared to others.

Edit: Meant to quote Diamond. Oops.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
July 04 2013 09:48 GMT
#6305
On July 04 2013 17:37 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 17:13 Osmoses wrote:
I can probably agree that the skill cieling in LoL is lower than both SC2 and Dota, but it doesn't matter. I play/watch the game that's the most fun. And that's LoL.

According to the numbers, the majority clearly agrees with me.

There's no skill ceiling in LoL; it's a person vs person match up.

Not sure I understand what you mean by that.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
July 04 2013 09:52 GMT
#6306
On July 04 2013 18:48 Osmoses wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 17:37 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 04 2013 17:13 Osmoses wrote:
I can probably agree that the skill cieling in LoL is lower than both SC2 and Dota, but it doesn't matter. I play/watch the game that's the most fun. And that's LoL.

According to the numbers, the majority clearly agrees with me.

There's no skill ceiling in LoL; it's a person vs person match up.

Not sure I understand what you mean by that.

LoL has no 7v1 hard comp BGH option
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 04 2013 10:12 GMT
#6307
On July 04 2013 18:48 Osmoses wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 17:37 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 04 2013 17:13 Osmoses wrote:
I can probably agree that the skill cieling in LoL is lower than both SC2 and Dota, but it doesn't matter. I play/watch the game that's the most fun. And that's LoL.

According to the numbers, the majority clearly agrees with me.

There's no skill ceiling in LoL; it's a person vs person match up.

Not sure I understand what you mean by that.

You can't have a skill ceiling in a player vs player match up. Because you're matching up with another person; so the skill level is whoever outplays who; not some arbitrary skill ceiling. If anything; it's more appropriate to talk about skill floor; LoL has a much lower skill floor; it's f2p, so easy access; less complexity, so easier to understand at a basic level; etc etc. But, to talk about skill floor is a rather moot point when talking about pro-level esports play.
liftlift > tsm
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
July 04 2013 10:18 GMT
#6308
On July 04 2013 19:12 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 18:48 Osmoses wrote:
On July 04 2013 17:37 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 04 2013 17:13 Osmoses wrote:
I can probably agree that the skill cieling in LoL is lower than both SC2 and Dota, but it doesn't matter. I play/watch the game that's the most fun. And that's LoL.

According to the numbers, the majority clearly agrees with me.

There's no skill ceiling in LoL; it's a person vs person match up.

Not sure I understand what you mean by that.

You can't have a skill ceiling in a player vs player match up. Because you're matching up with another person; so the skill level is whoever outplays who; not some arbitrary skill ceiling. If anything; it's more appropriate to talk about skill floor; LoL has a much lower skill floor; it's f2p, so easy access; less complexity, so easier to understand at a basic level; etc etc. But, to talk about skill floor is a rather moot point when talking about pro-level esports play.


I think you mean something else by skill ceiling. When most people talk about skill ceiling they mean perfect play. For example noughts and crosses is player vs player but has a clear skill ceiling (perfect play).
No I'm never serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 04 2013 10:27 GMT
#6309
On July 04 2013 19:18 Nytefish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 19:12 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 04 2013 18:48 Osmoses wrote:
On July 04 2013 17:37 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 04 2013 17:13 Osmoses wrote:
I can probably agree that the skill cieling in LoL is lower than both SC2 and Dota, but it doesn't matter. I play/watch the game that's the most fun. And that's LoL.

According to the numbers, the majority clearly agrees with me.

There's no skill ceiling in LoL; it's a person vs person match up.

Not sure I understand what you mean by that.

You can't have a skill ceiling in a player vs player match up. Because you're matching up with another person; so the skill level is whoever outplays who; not some arbitrary skill ceiling. If anything; it's more appropriate to talk about skill floor; LoL has a much lower skill floor; it's f2p, so easy access; less complexity, so easier to understand at a basic level; etc etc. But, to talk about skill floor is a rather moot point when talking about pro-level esports play.


I think you mean something else by skill ceiling. When most people talk about skill ceiling they mean perfect play. For example noughts and crosses is player vs player but has a clear skill ceiling (perfect play).

Except that doesn't exist.
liftlift > tsm
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 10:30:32
July 04 2013 10:29 GMT
#6310
On July 04 2013 19:18 Nytefish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 19:12 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 04 2013 18:48 Osmoses wrote:
On July 04 2013 17:37 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 04 2013 17:13 Osmoses wrote:
I can probably agree that the skill cieling in LoL is lower than both SC2 and Dota, but it doesn't matter. I play/watch the game that's the most fun. And that's LoL.

According to the numbers, the majority clearly agrees with me.

There's no skill ceiling in LoL; it's a person vs person match up.

Not sure I understand what you mean by that.

You can't have a skill ceiling in a player vs player match up. Because you're matching up with another person; so the skill level is whoever outplays who; not some arbitrary skill ceiling. If anything; it's more appropriate to talk about skill floor; LoL has a much lower skill floor; it's f2p, so easy access; less complexity, so easier to understand at a basic level; etc etc. But, to talk about skill floor is a rather moot point when talking about pro-level esports play.


I think you mean something else by skill ceiling. When most people talk about skill ceiling they mean perfect play. For example noughts and crosses is player vs player but has a clear skill ceiling (perfect play).


What actually defines perfect play though?

You could hit every CS in first 5 minutes as karthus, but did that really constitute perfect play? Faker did it sitting in the creep wave lasthitting with a lot of auto's so he could save mana to zone and Q the opponent. He missed a couple of creeps for it though. Is that the same perfect play as somebody who hits every single last hit, but did almost it all with Q from 800 range, and let enemy free farm?

One is more optimal, one is more perfect. Neither is the skill ceiling, and I highly doubt it will be hit either.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
July 04 2013 10:33 GMT
#6311
On July 04 2013 19:29 Amui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 19:18 Nytefish wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:12 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 04 2013 18:48 Osmoses wrote:
On July 04 2013 17:37 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 04 2013 17:13 Osmoses wrote:
I can probably agree that the skill cieling in LoL is lower than both SC2 and Dota, but it doesn't matter. I play/watch the game that's the most fun. And that's LoL.

According to the numbers, the majority clearly agrees with me.

There's no skill ceiling in LoL; it's a person vs person match up.

Not sure I understand what you mean by that.

You can't have a skill ceiling in a player vs player match up. Because you're matching up with another person; so the skill level is whoever outplays who; not some arbitrary skill ceiling. If anything; it's more appropriate to talk about skill floor; LoL has a much lower skill floor; it's f2p, so easy access; less complexity, so easier to understand at a basic level; etc etc. But, to talk about skill floor is a rather moot point when talking about pro-level esports play.


I think you mean something else by skill ceiling. When most people talk about skill ceiling they mean perfect play. For example noughts and crosses is player vs player but has a clear skill ceiling (perfect play).


What actually defines perfect play though?

You could hit every CS in first 5 minutes as karthus, but did that really constitute perfect play? Faker did it sitting in the creep wave lasthitting with a lot of auto's so he could save mana to zone and Q the opponent. He missed a couple of creeps for it though. Is that the same perfect play as somebody who hits every single last hit, but did almost it all with Q from 800 range, and let enemy free farm?

One is more optimal, one is more perfect. Neither is the skill ceiling, and I highly doubt it will be hit either.

No. The skill ceiling would be to hit every creep AND zone as much as possible with the Q.
Deleted User 45971
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
533 Posts
July 04 2013 10:34 GMT
#6312
Do I need a Korean LoL account to watch games through this site: http://op.gg/progamer/pro/# ? I can't get it to work
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 10:35:34
July 04 2013 10:34 GMT
#6313
skill ceiling would be to dodge every karthus q and rape him
u mad

talking about skill ceiling when playing one of the most boring passive champs in one of the most boring passive lanes during the laning phase is pretty dumb as well

User was warned for this post
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 10:47:16
July 04 2013 10:46 GMT
#6314
On July 04 2013 19:27 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 19:18 Nytefish wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:12 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 04 2013 18:48 Osmoses wrote:
On July 04 2013 17:37 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 04 2013 17:13 Osmoses wrote:
I can probably agree that the skill cieling in LoL is lower than both SC2 and Dota, but it doesn't matter. I play/watch the game that's the most fun. And that's LoL.

According to the numbers, the majority clearly agrees with me.

There's no skill ceiling in LoL; it's a person vs person match up.

Not sure I understand what you mean by that.

You can't have a skill ceiling in a player vs player match up. Because you're matching up with another person; so the skill level is whoever outplays who; not some arbitrary skill ceiling. If anything; it's more appropriate to talk about skill floor; LoL has a much lower skill floor; it's f2p, so easy access; less complexity, so easier to understand at a basic level; etc etc. But, to talk about skill floor is a rather moot point when talking about pro-level esports play.


I think you mean something else by skill ceiling. When most people talk about skill ceiling they mean perfect play. For example noughts and crosses is player vs player but has a clear skill ceiling (perfect play).

Except that doesn't exist.

If we assume they mean mechanical skill in specific... Otherwise you could argue that rock paper scissors has a gigantic skill ceiling or whatever. In LoL it's rather easy to perfectly control your champion to make it do exactly what you want it to do, I don't really see how this is arguable
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 10:55:32
July 04 2013 10:49 GMT
#6315
On July 04 2013 19:27 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 19:18 Nytefish wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:12 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 04 2013 18:48 Osmoses wrote:
On July 04 2013 17:37 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 04 2013 17:13 Osmoses wrote:
I can probably agree that the skill cieling in LoL is lower than both SC2 and Dota, but it doesn't matter. I play/watch the game that's the most fun. And that's LoL.

According to the numbers, the majority clearly agrees with me.

There's no skill ceiling in LoL; it's a person vs person match up.

Not sure I understand what you mean by that.

You can't have a skill ceiling in a player vs player match up. Because you're matching up with another person; so the skill level is whoever outplays who; not some arbitrary skill ceiling. If anything; it's more appropriate to talk about skill floor; LoL has a much lower skill floor; it's f2p, so easy access; less complexity, so easier to understand at a basic level; etc etc. But, to talk about skill floor is a rather moot point when talking about pro-level esports play.


I think you mean something else by skill ceiling. When most people talk about skill ceiling they mean perfect play. For example noughts and crosses is player vs player but has a clear skill ceiling (perfect play).

Except that doesn't exist.


Yes I also agree it's stupid to talk about skill ceilings but people love to do it.

Well it is possible to talk about mechanical skill ceilings, but often people are comparing the quality of games based on their mechanical requirements, a near worthless discussion.
No I'm never serious.
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
July 04 2013 10:49 GMT
#6316
On July 04 2013 19:34 Potatisodlaren wrote:
Do I need a Korean LoL account to watch games through this site: http://op.gg/progamer/pro/# ? I can't get it to work

No you need to have LoL installed, download the bat and start it
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 04 2013 11:10 GMT
#6317
On July 04 2013 19:46 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 19:27 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:18 Nytefish wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:12 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 04 2013 18:48 Osmoses wrote:
On July 04 2013 17:37 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 04 2013 17:13 Osmoses wrote:
I can probably agree that the skill cieling in LoL is lower than both SC2 and Dota, but it doesn't matter. I play/watch the game that's the most fun. And that's LoL.

According to the numbers, the majority clearly agrees with me.

There's no skill ceiling in LoL; it's a person vs person match up.

Not sure I understand what you mean by that.

You can't have a skill ceiling in a player vs player match up. Because you're matching up with another person; so the skill level is whoever outplays who; not some arbitrary skill ceiling. If anything; it's more appropriate to talk about skill floor; LoL has a much lower skill floor; it's f2p, so easy access; less complexity, so easier to understand at a basic level; etc etc. But, to talk about skill floor is a rather moot point when talking about pro-level esports play.


I think you mean something else by skill ceiling. When most people talk about skill ceiling they mean perfect play. For example noughts and crosses is player vs player but has a clear skill ceiling (perfect play).

Except that doesn't exist.

If we assume they mean mechanical skill in specific... Otherwise you could argue that rock paper scissors has a gigantic skill ceiling or whatever. In LoL it's rather easy to perfectly control your champion to make it do exactly what you want it to do, I don't really see how this is arguable

I'm pretty sure their are pretty skilled roshambo players that win significantly outside norms.
liftlift > tsm
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
July 04 2013 11:20 GMT
#6318
On July 04 2013 19:46 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2013 19:27 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:18 Nytefish wrote:
On July 04 2013 19:12 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 04 2013 18:48 Osmoses wrote:
On July 04 2013 17:37 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 04 2013 17:13 Osmoses wrote:
I can probably agree that the skill cieling in LoL is lower than both SC2 and Dota, but it doesn't matter. I play/watch the game that's the most fun. And that's LoL.

According to the numbers, the majority clearly agrees with me.

There's no skill ceiling in LoL; it's a person vs person match up.

Not sure I understand what you mean by that.

You can't have a skill ceiling in a player vs player match up. Because you're matching up with another person; so the skill level is whoever outplays who; not some arbitrary skill ceiling. If anything; it's more appropriate to talk about skill floor; LoL has a much lower skill floor; it's f2p, so easy access; less complexity, so easier to understand at a basic level; etc etc. But, to talk about skill floor is a rather moot point when talking about pro-level esports play.


I think you mean something else by skill ceiling. When most people talk about skill ceiling they mean perfect play. For example noughts and crosses is player vs player but has a clear skill ceiling (perfect play).

Except that doesn't exist.

If we assume they mean mechanical skill in specific... Otherwise you could argue that rock paper scissors has a gigantic skill ceiling or whatever. In LoL it's rather easy to perfectly control your champion to make it do exactly what you want it to do, I don't really see how this is arguable



so chess has very low skill ceiling since everyone with an arm and a hand has mastered its mechanics perfectly.
Deleted User 45971
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
533 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-04 11:29:39
July 04 2013 11:28 GMT
#6319
nvm
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
July 04 2013 11:31 GMT
#6320
Anyone seen that Syndra + Thresh video on Reddit?
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1hlkud/what_to_do_with_thresh_and_syndra_101/
Pretty cool stuff =)
Prev 1 314 315 316 317 318 380 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
23:00
Biweekly #34
LiquipediaDiscussion
OSC
16:00
Masters Cup #150 Qual 1-2
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 169
BRAT_OK 72
StarCraft: Brood War
Shine 120
ToSsGirL 50
Icarus 9
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm77
League of Legends
JimRising 914
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss673
Stewie2K590
Other Games
summit1g7703
WinterStarcraft466
C9.Mang0261
ceh9164
Mew2King67
rGuardiaN28
Trikslyr16
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick804
Counter-Strike
PGL153
Other Games
BasetradeTV107
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 46
• LUISG 1
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV448
League of Legends
• Lourlo1002
• Jankos587
Upcoming Events
The PondCast
2h 48m
OSC
4h 48m
WardiTV Invitational
1d 3h
Online Event
1d 8h
RSL Revival
1d 18h
RSL Revival
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Snow vs Soma
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
[ Show More ]
CrankTV Team League
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
CrankTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
CrankTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #4 - TS2
WardiTV TLMC #15
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
EC S1
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.