[Patch 3.08: Aatrox Patch] General Discussion - Page 317

On July 04 2013 21:44 nojitosunrise wrote:
Skill ceiling is the biggest buzzword in esports right now. It means nothing. It's like the Monster cable of words.

On July 04 2013 21:24 Numy wrote:
Reading the butthurt reactions in the SPL/Kepsa thread is oddly satisfying. All those people that basically celebrated BWs death in there are now staring their own future demise and lashing out. Maybe one day people will just embrace every game instead of this rubbish lashing out at each other.

On July 04 2013 21:10 Osmoses wrote:
Guys, just because nobody ever HITS the skillceiling don't mean it doesn't exist. Player vs Player is also irrelevant, the skillceiling doesn't change just because you're playing a worse opponent; it's just that you are much closer to it than your opponent, and therefore having an easier time.

In LoL in particular mechanics take a backseat to decision making and game flow. Don't mean it's easier, those are just different skills, though I would argue it is alot easier to make a game mechanically challenging as opposed to deep in terms of understanding. That said, its interesting to me that a person who is not very good at LoL might think it's easy because they cannot see the nuances. People coming over from Starcraft who may have sharp mechanics but do not understand the nuances cannot fathom why they are still in silver and must turn to the "elo hell" scapegoat.

On July 04 2013 23:31 XenOmega wrote:
My situation : I always watched more games (LCS and stuff) than I played this game
Result : I became a smartass who thinks that he knows how to play this game, but in truth lacks in skills.

Translated in actual game : I've lost my last 5-6 ranked games

My take on the situation :
Game knowledge wise (decision making) (if something like that exists) : I think I'm still able to read the game (making the good calls, imo). Team usually doesn't follow though, so I guess at my level, knowing what objectives to do is not very important... However, decision making related to my laning is at best questionnable (for example : I know what to do, like waiting for the enemy to last hit before harassing him, but execution is poor and I end up missing CS) -_-

Skill/mechanics wise, it seems like I fell behind (after my pause of 1 month from ranked) : The last games I played as AD carry (usually my "safest" role) were mostly terrible (dunno if its just me, or if my support were also terrible)
I guess I was never really good neither as a player... I've grinded my way to Gold 3 because I played jungler. Now, I'm no longer first pick, so I'm usually stuck with another role. One could argue that knowledge of the game is not very useful when you are playing something like ADC since you have a small impact on the other lanes. The last game I was able to jungle too, it seems I have also fallen behind the newest changes (the new spawn time for all monsters ; first jungle game since the patch)

Conclusion : I probably need to play more and watch less. Dunno if I should stick with jungler, or if I should explore other roles (In order, I think my best role are Jungler > mid = support > ADC >>>>>>>>>>>> top). Another of my problem is that while I have a lot of champions, I always always go back to my "safe" picks... Like mid, I almost always play anivia. Jungler, always Hecarim or Xin. ADC always MF. Support always Taric or Leona.

On July 04 2013 22:20 h3r1n6 wrote:


It's like business people discussing the cloud.

On July 04 2013 21:10 Osmoses wrote:
Guys, just because nobody ever HITS the skillceiling don't mean it doesn't exist. Player vs Player is also irrelevant, the skillceiling doesn't change just because you're playing a worse opponent; it's just that you are much closer to it than your opponent, and therefore having an easier time.

In LoL in particular mechanics take a backseat to decision making and game flow. Don't mean it's easier, those are just different skills, though I would argue it is alot easier to make a game mechanically challenging as opposed to deep in terms of understanding. That said, its interesting to me that a person who is not very good at LoL might think it's easy because they cannot see the nuances. People coming over from Starcraft who may have sharp mechanics but do not understand the nuances cannot fathom why they are still in silver and must turn to the "elo hell" scapegoat.

On July 04 2013 23:18 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
DAE Tank Vayne? Shit's so cash.
BotRK works so well as the sole damage item, you can go tanky everywhere else and win ezpz.