[Patch 3.08: Aatrox Patch] General Discussion - Page 312

On July 04 2013 04:23 Requizen wrote:

Maybe you weren't.... cool enough to play Lissandra.

DJForeclosure (Sejuani): gl hf
DJForeclosure (Sejuani): hope you don't get boar'd

On July 04 2013 04:25 AsmodeusXI wrote:


If my ability to play Champions were based upon my ability to make puns about them, I'd be a fucking pro.

Almost every Sejuani game I play opens with:

On July 04 2013 04:23 Alaric wrote:
It's way simpler for them if everyone convey their ideas the same way so the userbase doesn't get confused by what two Rioters may say on the same subject (and then you add habits taken from jobs involving teams).

On July 04 2013 03:55 Alaric wrote:

"Oh shit I didn't destroy Malph/Irelia/Jarvan/whatever and now he/she/it has like 100+ armour."
LW is way better in those cases, also if the jungler is going to complete Aegis soon (for example he gets a few early kills and you notice he rushes it).
HSS also has big base damage so it benefits from the ArPen. You won't be as good at clearing waves though, nor exploding squishies.

On July 04 2013 04:36 Alaric wrote:
He's right in that they're awkward, though. Since the ArPen got moved to the active component of Ragnarok, it almost became a "side-effect" of the ult, the CC purge/immunity (mostly) and resistances (partly) because the motor behind your usage of the ability.
About his W, it increases your damage, but also your sustain, so do you activate it early to try and get kills on people/mitigate the burst, or do you wait to really be low, find a non-mobile target and activate the ability to keep your low health/high dps state thanks to the lifesteal (boosted by the AS)? It could be interesting as being more of a choice here for the player, but since the stats are a bit "invisible" (like, say, Duskbringer, the MS buff is very noticeable but the AD less so, despite how big it is) people may be neglecting it, making the choice less involved into how you play.

On July 04 2013 04:26 arb wrote:

Sometimes i get mad enough to play tryndamere.
And if i get really salty i play gangplank

._.

On July 04 2013 05:33 Diamond wrote:
Just got my first penta.

Positive side, it was Ezreal not some reset champ like Kat.

Negative side, it was an ARAM ;(

On July 04 2013 05:34 XaCez wrote:

I got my first Penta when I was only level 29.
Of course it is quite simple as Kassadin (also got one as Yi in an ARAM).

On July 04 2013 04:07 Seuss wrote:


No.

First, let's examine Q->W->E->Auto->Q combo with no other items. The total AD scaling on the combo is 750-810%. Hydra adds an extra 100%, at the cost of 25 AD. At level 11 Pantheon will have somewhere around 100 AD from levels/runes/masteries. Do the math and you'll see that Pantheon gains 1620 damage from BT, and 1592.5 damage from Hydra. A difference of a mere 27.5 damage in BT's favor. Once you add BC and LW into the equation, Hydra surpasses BT by 65 damage. Basically, Hydra has the damage advantage on a single target as long as we aren't rushing our Life Steal item.

So the problem with BT on Pantheon is fairly straightforward:

• You shouldn't be rushing your Life Steal item, and even if you do Hydra is easier to build and the damage difference is negligible on a single target.
  
• Later in the game you're not going to be able to poke with your Spear in sieges, so BT has no advantage there.
  
• Pantheon is a decent split pusher with his ult, and Hydra is better in 1v1s and for split pushing.

BT isn't some horrifically terrible idea on Pantheon (obviously, both items are very close in damage). But Pantheon has the highest AD scaling of any melee champion and he's at best roughly even between the two. If he isn't significantly better with BT, no one is.

Edit: I'm not claiming to be a Pantheon pro. If you just sit on the edges of teamfights chucking spears BT might be better, but that seems like a really odd playstyle to me.

On July 04 2013 06:01 Gahlo wrote:

With the whole kill him twice if I have to, I'm thinking Yorick.