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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
On July 04 2013 03:19 Gahlo wrote: "We knew our mission was greater than ourselves" It's bigger than all of us. Siren Lucian, the Gun Templar. Riot pls! Gun Cleric! | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
My point was more that Panth has fewer chances to stand in a place to use Hydra's active in teamfights since unless he can dive people he's going to skirt the edges, auto, toss Qs as often as he can, and try to position to get those money HSS off. And when he dives he generally barely has the time to auto (sometimes you auto->Q using the spell to cancel the auto animation) because his stun is short and people wil try to run out of HSS. ^ and the more I see videos of this film the more it just seems corny as fuck and too fake to let you enjoy it. Is it really that liked? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
I don't see the sense in rushing Last Whisper, BT gives more dmg against almost anything(its a base difference of 216 dmg for HSS) and the lifesteal actually is rather useful. yes I repeat myself because no one saw my edit on the last page. I also think 2 Doran Blades should be enough to sustain so that you don't need to buy a scepter before BF... | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On July 04 2013 03:49 Flakes wrote: Gun Cleric! + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcTft47wsDg#t=92s fucking love that movie If his dance isn't the gun kata, I'm going to write Riot and complain. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On July 04 2013 03:53 Shikyo wrote: Basically if you have enough to get BF sword, you just go for BT. If you don't you go Brutalizer first and then BF sword. I don't see the sense in rushing Last Whisper, BT gives more dmg against almost anything(its a base difference of 216 dmg for HSS) and the lifesteal actually is rather useful. "Oh shit I didn't destroy Malph/Irelia/Jarvan/whatever and now he/she/it has like 100+ armour." LW is way better in those cases, also if the jungler is going to complete Aegis soon (for example he gets a few early kills and you notice he rushes it). HSS also has big base damage so it benefits from the ArPen. You won't be as good at clearing waves though, nor exploding squishies. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On July 04 2013 03:59 cLutZ wrote: Oh Smash, he has been assimilated by the Riot. I thought he was bang on as far as the right way to change Olaf to make him useful. | ||
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
On July 04 2013 03:53 Requizen wrote: fucking love that movie If his dance isn't the gun kata, I'm going to write Riot and complain. Vayne has this already though. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On July 04 2013 03:36 Sandster wrote: Wouldn't you say Pantheon is one of them though? Hydra and BOTRK have quite a bit of gold on stats/abilities that Pantheon can't use very well. No. First, let's examine Q->W->E->Auto->Q combo with no other items. The total AD scaling on the combo is 750-810%. Hydra adds an extra 100%, at the cost of 25 AD. At level 11 Pantheon will have somewhere around 100 AD from levels/runes/masteries. Do the math and you'll see that Pantheon gains 1620 damage from BT, and 1592.5 damage from Hydra. A difference of a mere 27.5 damage in BT's favor. Once you add BC and LW into the equation, Hydra surpasses BT by 65 damage. Basically, Hydra has the damage advantage on a single target as long as we aren't rushing our Life Steal item. So the problem with BT on Pantheon is fairly straightforward:
BT isn't some horrifically terrible idea on Pantheon (obviously, both items are very close in damage). But Pantheon has the highest AD scaling of any melee champion and he's at best roughly even between the two. If he isn't significantly better with BT, no one is. Edit: I'm not claiming to be a Pantheon pro. If you just sit on the edges of teamfights chucking spears BT might be better, but that seems like a really odd playstyle to me. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
But Vayne is dumb and I hate her. | ||
AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On July 04 2013 04:04 sylverfyre wrote: Pantheon's kinda weird as far as melee fighty-assassins go because he wants to pretend he's ranged. I thought he was bang on as far as the right way to change Olaf to make him useful. Ideas were fine, the rhetoric was 100% Riot though. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On July 04 2013 04:12 AsmodeusXI wrote: Lucian looks STUPID AWESOME. Day 1 buy for aesthetics because I'm a whore for cool designs. That worked out for your Lissandra play, HUH? | ||
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mordek
United States12704 Posts
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Zhiroo
Kosovo2724 Posts
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AsmodeusXI
United States15536 Posts
On July 04 2013 04:16 onlywonderboy wrote: That worked out for your Lissandra play, HUH? I DON'T NEED TO PLAY THEM WELL, I JUST NEED TO OWN THEM. SHUT UP. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On July 04 2013 04:21 AsmodeusXI wrote: I DON'T NEED TO PLAY THEM WELL, I JUST NEED TO OWN THEM. SHUT UP. Maybe you weren't.... cool enough to play Lissandra. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Lucian looks bleh to me, but that's because the "cool dude with guns" is always so badly done from my criteria that I've come to be wary of "cool dudes with guns". Plus, the art style (pose, angular jaw, curves, etc.) seems a bit like Jayce, Clone Wars series, and comics in general, and it doesn't click with me. On July 04 2013 04:07 Seuss wrote: Edit: I'm not claiming to be a Pantheon pro. If you just sit on the edges of teamfights chucking spears BT might be better, but that seems like a really odd playstyle to me. It's not that autoattacking is bad with Panth, but you can't afford to dive like Zed/Kha/Akali/etc. do because you have no escape nor defensive means (his passive helps very early on, but it quickly becomes anecdotal in 5v5 teamfights with some champs building AS), and on top of that your biggest nuke is channeled, allowing people to mitigate/cancel it. Meaning you tend to stay on the sides (you're an AD caster, not a bruiser, so you're squishier than say a Jax or a Xin who can act as frontline), using your range to hit semi-priority targets unless you see an opening (for example somebody out of position) and your autos are relegated to hitting their own frontline, be it straight up tanks or divers depending on the circumstances. Since your low cooldowns, HSS passive and innate passive get stronger as numbers dwindle and health decreases, you could even have an easier time protecting your main sources of damage (so AD and AP carries) until the battlefield starts to get cleared out, where you get more leeway to get in people's faces. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On July 04 2013 03:32 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Hey guys, we get a true black person in league! http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1294956-Potential-New-Champion-Lucian-the-Gun-Templar http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3621011 I guess Renekton's Malaria shield no longer does true damage  Bee shield did true damage? | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On July 04 2013 04:23 Requizen wrote: Maybe you weren't.... cool enough to play Lissandra. A pun? Come on, you're just pandering to Asmo now. | ||
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