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Dan HH
Romania9251 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
BRAIN HURT. Terribly disappointed the next champion/reworked Xerath/free ponies aren't up on the PBE yet. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
That or maybe you just shouldn't take vacations. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On July 04 2013 03:01 Alaric wrote: ^ this is dedication. And I don't think we talked about Pokemon or something in between the talks about Riot balancing, BT vs Hydra, 1v2s, the general system, and random stuff to sooth your brain cells a little. That or maybe you just shouldn't take vacations. It has been a while since we had a pokemon discussion. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
But there's basically no reason to get BT on melee while Hydra and BotRK exist. Edit: Also: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3621011 It's the bat gun. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I wonder how Hydra would do for Pantheon, actually, considering that he doesn't really tries to auto, squishy and escape-less as he is (later in the game at least). Plus HSS is channeled so trying to insert autos/Hydra's active to compensate for the AD adds to his time factor. On paper it's prob better if you can use it in a combo, in reality I'll have to test that. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On July 04 2013 03:08 Seuss wrote: I was happy to see people actually doing math in my absence, although if you knew where to look you could find the BotRK vs Hydra vs BT math I did for Zed ages ago. The basic conclusion was that Hydra is more damage but BotRK tends to be favored because it gives sticking power. You really can't put a value on the gank assist power of cutlass, or the importance of being able to catch someone via the BotRK slow. But there's basically no reason to get BT on melee while Hydra and BotRK exist. Edit: Also: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3621011 It's the bat gun. "We knew our mission was greater than ourselves" It's bigger than all of us. Siren Lucian, the Gun Templar. Riot pls! | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
EDIT: Nocturne found a buddy? | ||
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Argoth.
Germany1961 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
so is Darkness... | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On July 04 2013 03:08 Seuss wrote: I was happy to see people actually doing math in my absence, although if you knew where to look you could find the BotRK vs Hydra vs BT math I did for Zed ages ago. The basic conclusion was that Hydra is more damage but BotRK tends to be favored because it gives sticking power. You really can't put a value on the gank assist power of cutlass, or the importance of being able to catch someone via the BotRK slow. But there's basically no reason to get BT on melee while Hydra and BotRK exist. Edit: Also: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3621011 It's the bat gun. I knew you must have been busy when math was going down and you were no where to comment. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1294956-Potential-New-Champion-Lucian-the-Gun-Templar http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3621011 I guess Renekton's Malaria shield no longer does true damage  | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On July 04 2013 03:23 Sandster wrote: BC is core on pantheon though. Applying BC stacks is a big part of his late game job. The vamp scep item you build is often delayed since your typical item path is something like 1-2 doran, brutalizer, [hexdrinker], LW, BC, and a defensive item. He doesn't really fit the mold for either botrk or hydra, since he only really wants ad/arpen/cdr. And at that point in the game, if your team is relying on Pantheon to chase someone beyond his ult, then Pantheon probably wasn't the best pick to begin with. Oh I'm not saying that you should rush Hydra on Pantheon, or any champion for that matter, just there just are practically no circumstances where BT is going to be better than both Hydra and BotRk for melee champions regardless of when you're making your choice. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
On July 04 2013 03:34 Seuss wrote: Oh I'm not saying that you should rush Hydra on Pantheon, or any champion for that matter, just there just aren't any circumstances where BT is going to be better than both Hydra and BotRk for melee champions regardless of when you're making your choice. Wouldn't you say Pantheon is one of them though? Hydra and BOTRK have quite a bit of gold on stats/abilities that Pantheon can't use very well. | ||
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Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
On July 04 2013 03:32 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Hey guys, we get a true black person in league! http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1294956-Potential-New-Champion-Lucian-the-Gun-Templar http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=3621011 I guess Renekton's Malaria shield no longer does true damage him = Atrox?! | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
I doubt it. I think the "him" is Shadow Isles, Aatrox has no nationality. The woman is probably either Eve or Elise, but it could just be a nobody who's only there to give a character some background (unfortunately something Riot's been doing a lot lately) | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
I also actually would get BT before BC or Last Whisper(Brutalizer before if I cannot buy a BF right away). The reason is that HSS has 3.6 AD scaling and that makes BT actually deal significantly more dmg than what penetrating 35% of the enemy armor will give. BT also likes it if you get it asap so that you can stack it fast, and you will melt squishies better. In either case BC is the least cost-efficient item out of those and should be finished last in every case, unless you happen to have a Brutalizer and enough to finish the BC before you have started building your LW. | ||
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
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