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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
June 07 2013 01:58 GMT
#5981
On June 07 2013 10:55 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 10:54 Gahlo wrote:
On June 07 2013 09:43 Jojo131 wrote:
Hearing stuff about changes to the Elder Lizard item but can't find it in writing. Anyone care to point in the right direction/tell me whats going on?

Thankfully this guy updates with every patch on the difference from live, not just the changes in the patch.
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Emptylord/PBE_Status

Spirit of the Elder Lizard

Attack damage lowered to 35 from 45.
Bonus damage to monsters increased to 30% from 25%.

Doubt that's all they will nerf, this seems too reasonable. I think I will still get it on Ezreal

I think their issue with Lizard is more focused on the top laners that buy it.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
June 07 2013 01:59 GMT
#5982
On June 07 2013 10:58 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 10:55 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 07 2013 10:54 Gahlo wrote:
On June 07 2013 09:43 Jojo131 wrote:
Hearing stuff about changes to the Elder Lizard item but can't find it in writing. Anyone care to point in the right direction/tell me whats going on?

Thankfully this guy updates with every patch on the difference from live, not just the changes in the patch.
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Emptylord/PBE_Status

Spirit of the Elder Lizard

Attack damage lowered to 35 from 45.
Bonus damage to monsters increased to 30% from 25%.

Doubt that's all they will nerf, this seems too reasonable. I think I will still get it on Ezreal

I think their issue with Lizard is more focused on the top laners that buy it.

That would make me a very happy camper. Playing Blue Ezreal is great.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 02:19:20
June 07 2013 02:04 GMT
#5983
Jayce's E-Q is basically an AOE version of Nid spear that also happens to scale with autoattacks. The more I think about it, the stupider it is.

I haven't been getting shat on by Jayce or Nid, but Jayce's insane poke/burst and disengage more than makes up for his lack of so-called "sustained damage".

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
TheLink
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia2725 Posts
June 07 2013 02:05 GMT
#5984
On release Darius had stupidly high numbers to compensate for no gapcloser and no cc (depending on how you count his hook thing). He had a cool niche on I can totally fuck up anyone in a fight but mobility was a problem. He has since died due to how to exploit said weaknesses finally sinking their way into low elo. That and nerfs because low elo isn't particularly patient.

Also I made my classification Rengar+. I suppose we all have our definitions of recent depending on where we want to bias things. ^^
Only the weak link is strong enough to break the chain.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 02:16:55
June 07 2013 02:10 GMT
#5985
On June 07 2013 11:05 TheLink wrote:
On release Darius had stupidly high numbers to compensate for no gapcloser and no cc (depending on how you count his hook thing). He had a cool niche on I can totally fuck up anyone in a fight but mobility was a problem. He has since died due to how to exploit said weaknesses finally sinking their way into low elo. That and nerfs because low elo isn't particularly patient.

Also I made my classification Rengar+. I suppose we all have our definitions of recent depending on where we want to bias things. ^^

People aren't really used to champs having big strengths and big weaknesses, and if someone plays to his strengths and you don't know how to (or have to rely on your jungler to) abuse his weaknesses, that guy is going to look disgustingly overpowered.
Darius was the perfect example. You couldn't simply blindly pick a toplaner and beat him 1v1, so he was a big problem in blind pick, where you also couldn't depend on your jungler to take advantage of his low mobility and him having to push the lane to harass.

Thus, nerfs. I still think he's playable, though, but I don't really enjoy him, he just feels very unsatisfying to play now that everyone else has a way to escape

Riot will definitely nerf that which the community is crying about, so they have kinda forced themselves to make champions with average power levels and with no big strengths/weaknesses. Like I said, this isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it is true.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
June 07 2013 02:17 GMT
#5986
Confirmed that the new Legendary Skin is going to be 1950 on release just like PFE. I guess it's June so that should release some info on that soon, maybe some lore teasers or something of that sort.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
June 07 2013 02:17 GMT
#5987
Isn't it half confirmed that it's Udyr?
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 02:26:24
June 07 2013 02:19 GMT
#5988
I really wish that Riot would make it so you could have custom keybinds for champs. It doesn't take too long to setup, but it would be convenient.

Generally I smartcast targetted spells and dumbcast a lot of skillshots (though I have some exceptions) For example, champs like Ryze I smartcast everything (obviously). For Ali, I specifically dumbcast his W so I can see range and land headbutt-pulverize combos. For Blitz I dumbcast his hook, but for Thresh I don't.

Sometimes I forget what I set in a previous game with a previous champ and it really messes me up, like I had E on dumbcast one game, then the next I played Thresh and the fraction of a second it took me to flay made me give up FB instead of killing a Vayne.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 07 2013 02:21 GMT
#5989
On June 07 2013 11:10 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 11:05 TheLink wrote:
On release Darius had stupidly high numbers to compensate for no gapcloser and no cc (depending on how you count his hook thing). He had a cool niche on I can totally fuck up anyone in a fight but mobility was a problem. He has since died due to how to exploit said weaknesses finally sinking their way into low elo. That and nerfs because low elo isn't particularly patient.

Also I made my classification Rengar+. I suppose we all have our definitions of recent depending on where we want to bias things. ^^

People aren't really used to champs having big strengths and big weaknesses, and if someone plays to his strengths and you don't know how to (or have to rely on your jungler to) abuse his weaknesses, that guy is going to look disgustingly overpowered.
Darius was the perfect example. You couldn't simply blindly pick a toplaner and beat him 1v1, so he was a big problem in blind pick, where you also couldn't depend on your jungler to take advantage of his low mobility and him having to push the lane to harass.

Thus, nerfs. I still think he's playable, though, but I don't really enjoy him, he just feels very unsatisfying to play now that everyone else has a way to escape

Riot will definitely nerf that which the community is crying about, so they have kinda forced themselves to make champions with average power levels and with no big strengths/weaknesses. Like I said, this isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it is true.


But that makes you ask, "WTF are they doing with AAtrox?"
Freeeeeeedom
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
June 07 2013 02:22 GMT
#5990
On June 07 2013 11:21 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 11:10 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:05 TheLink wrote:
On release Darius had stupidly high numbers to compensate for no gapcloser and no cc (depending on how you count his hook thing). He had a cool niche on I can totally fuck up anyone in a fight but mobility was a problem. He has since died due to how to exploit said weaknesses finally sinking their way into low elo. That and nerfs because low elo isn't particularly patient.

Also I made my classification Rengar+. I suppose we all have our definitions of recent depending on where we want to bias things. ^^

People aren't really used to champs having big strengths and big weaknesses, and if someone plays to his strengths and you don't know how to (or have to rely on your jungler to) abuse his weaknesses, that guy is going to look disgustingly overpowered.
Darius was the perfect example. You couldn't simply blindly pick a toplaner and beat him 1v1, so he was a big problem in blind pick, where you also couldn't depend on your jungler to take advantage of his low mobility and him having to push the lane to harass.

Thus, nerfs. I still think he's playable, though, but I don't really enjoy him, he just feels very unsatisfying to play now that everyone else has a way to escape

Riot will definitely nerf that which the community is crying about, so they have kinda forced themselves to make champions with average power levels and with no big strengths/weaknesses. Like I said, this isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it is true.


But that makes you ask, "WTF are they doing with AAtrox?"

I don't know, what are they? I read his skillset and judged him as yet another bruiser with a gapcloser and a twist, is he different somehow?
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 07 2013 02:26 GMT
#5991
On June 07 2013 11:22 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 11:21 cLutZ wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:10 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:05 TheLink wrote:
On release Darius had stupidly high numbers to compensate for no gapcloser and no cc (depending on how you count his hook thing). He had a cool niche on I can totally fuck up anyone in a fight but mobility was a problem. He has since died due to how to exploit said weaknesses finally sinking their way into low elo. That and nerfs because low elo isn't particularly patient.

Also I made my classification Rengar+. I suppose we all have our definitions of recent depending on where we want to bias things. ^^

People aren't really used to champs having big strengths and big weaknesses, and if someone plays to his strengths and you don't know how to (or have to rely on your jungler to) abuse his weaknesses, that guy is going to look disgustingly overpowered.
Darius was the perfect example. You couldn't simply blindly pick a toplaner and beat him 1v1, so he was a big problem in blind pick, where you also couldn't depend on your jungler to take advantage of his low mobility and him having to push the lane to harass.

Thus, nerfs. I still think he's playable, though, but I don't really enjoy him, he just feels very unsatisfying to play now that everyone else has a way to escape

Riot will definitely nerf that which the community is crying about, so they have kinda forced themselves to make champions with average power levels and with no big strengths/weaknesses. Like I said, this isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it is true.


But that makes you ask, "WTF are they doing with AAtrox?"

I don't know, what are they? I read his skillset and judged him as yet another bruiser with a gapcloser and a twist, is he different somehow?

He has a built in GA in his passive. It's original! I SWEAR!
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-07 02:36:39
June 07 2013 02:35 GMT
#5992
On June 07 2013 11:22 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 11:21 cLutZ wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:10 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:05 TheLink wrote:
On release Darius had stupidly high numbers to compensate for no gapcloser and no cc (depending on how you count his hook thing). He had a cool niche on I can totally fuck up anyone in a fight but mobility was a problem. He has since died due to how to exploit said weaknesses finally sinking their way into low elo. That and nerfs because low elo isn't particularly patient.

Also I made my classification Rengar+. I suppose we all have our definitions of recent depending on where we want to bias things. ^^

People aren't really used to champs having big strengths and big weaknesses, and if someone plays to his strengths and you don't know how to (or have to rely on your jungler to) abuse his weaknesses, that guy is going to look disgustingly overpowered.
Darius was the perfect example. You couldn't simply blindly pick a toplaner and beat him 1v1, so he was a big problem in blind pick, where you also couldn't depend on your jungler to take advantage of his low mobility and him having to push the lane to harass.

Thus, nerfs. I still think he's playable, though, but I don't really enjoy him, he just feels very unsatisfying to play now that everyone else has a way to escape

Riot will definitely nerf that which the community is crying about, so they have kinda forced themselves to make champions with average power levels and with no big strengths/weaknesses. Like I said, this isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it is true.


But that makes you ask, "WTF are they doing with AAtrox?"

I don't know, what are they? I read his skillset and judged him as yet another bruiser with a gapcloser and a twist, is he different somehow?


Earlier I said:

On June 07 2013 02:43 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 19:10 Jojo131 wrote:
On June 06 2013 18:44 justiceknight wrote:
On June 06 2013 17:18 cLutZ wrote:
Wow, So why is Aatrox still on the PBE? Can anyone explain to me how Riot hopes to balance this character in light of Fiora/Tryndamere?

He is not OP, just...the same.



its kinda weird that this is the 1st time i have seen the LEAST number of updates on PBE patches, the new hero kinda hype up when its 1st announced and i read nothing new about buff/nerfs on the patches.

Aatrox rant incoming
+ Show Spoiler +
Theres just something about this new champ that feels incredibly underwhelming at the moment. Not sure what's up with Riot and GA-like mechanics but this one seems like the most boring one of them all. I thought Zac was really good in terms of design with coherence to character, this guy just feels like a step down in every way. Lame character, lame design. Havent felt this way since Viktor T_T


Its not just his revive mechanic that is lame he also has other things that are just plain dumb.

1. His W is basically Hiten Style, except sometimes worse and sometimes better. Just like Irelia though, the whole kit revolves around W.
2. E is just a trash tier move. But it is just good enough to piss off Olaf players.
3. Q Is a Mini-unstoppable force that makes him nearly Kha-Zix ungankable, and quite difficult to towerdive.
4. Lamest ult in the game.

Plus he has random steroids all over the place. Its like they looked at Vlad, Irelia, Tryndamere, and Fiora and asked "What do people hate most about these champions?" and put it into 1 character.


I just played a game on PBE as jungle eve, against AATROX and my conclusions are the same. He is an ass to shut down though. We did manage to , and he does ass in teamfights if he goes tanky.
Freeeeeeedom
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
June 07 2013 02:38 GMT
#5993
On June 07 2013 11:35 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 11:22 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:21 cLutZ wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:10 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:05 TheLink wrote:
On release Darius had stupidly high numbers to compensate for no gapcloser and no cc (depending on how you count his hook thing). He had a cool niche on I can totally fuck up anyone in a fight but mobility was a problem. He has since died due to how to exploit said weaknesses finally sinking their way into low elo. That and nerfs because low elo isn't particularly patient.

Also I made my classification Rengar+. I suppose we all have our definitions of recent depending on where we want to bias things. ^^

People aren't really used to champs having big strengths and big weaknesses, and if someone plays to his strengths and you don't know how to (or have to rely on your jungler to) abuse his weaknesses, that guy is going to look disgustingly overpowered.
Darius was the perfect example. You couldn't simply blindly pick a toplaner and beat him 1v1, so he was a big problem in blind pick, where you also couldn't depend on your jungler to take advantage of his low mobility and him having to push the lane to harass.

Thus, nerfs. I still think he's playable, though, but I don't really enjoy him, he just feels very unsatisfying to play now that everyone else has a way to escape

Riot will definitely nerf that which the community is crying about, so they have kinda forced themselves to make champions with average power levels and with no big strengths/weaknesses. Like I said, this isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it is true.


But that makes you ask, "WTF are they doing with AAtrox?"

I don't know, what are they? I read his skillset and judged him as yet another bruiser with a gapcloser and a twist, is he different somehow?


Earlier I said:

Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 02:43 cLutZ wrote:
On June 06 2013 19:10 Jojo131 wrote:
On June 06 2013 18:44 justiceknight wrote:
On June 06 2013 17:18 cLutZ wrote:
Wow, So why is Aatrox still on the PBE? Can anyone explain to me how Riot hopes to balance this character in light of Fiora/Tryndamere?

He is not OP, just...the same.



its kinda weird that this is the 1st time i have seen the LEAST number of updates on PBE patches, the new hero kinda hype up when its 1st announced and i read nothing new about buff/nerfs on the patches.

Aatrox rant incoming
+ Show Spoiler +
Theres just something about this new champ that feels incredibly underwhelming at the moment. Not sure what's up with Riot and GA-like mechanics but this one seems like the most boring one of them all. I thought Zac was really good in terms of design with coherence to character, this guy just feels like a step down in every way. Lame character, lame design. Havent felt this way since Viktor T_T


Its not just his revive mechanic that is lame he also has other things that are just plain dumb.

1. His W is basically Hiten Style, except sometimes worse and sometimes better. Just like Irelia though, the whole kit revolves around W.
2. E is just a trash tier move. But it is just good enough to piss off Olaf players.
3. Q Is a Mini-unstoppable force that makes him nearly Kha-Zix ungankable, and quite difficult to towerdive.
4. Lamest ult in the game.

Plus he has random steroids all over the place. Its like they looked at Vlad, Irelia, Tryndamere, and Fiora and asked "What do people hate most about these champions?" and put it into 1 character.


I just played a game on PBE as jungle eve, against AATROX and my conclusions are the same. He is an ass to shut down though. We did manage to , and he does ass in teamfights if he goes tanky.

Is he rage inducing for the other team like Singed and Teemo? As long as he's fun to play, I don't really care about anything else
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
June 07 2013 02:42 GMT
#5994
On June 07 2013 11:38 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 11:35 cLutZ wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:22 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:21 cLutZ wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:10 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:05 TheLink wrote:
On release Darius had stupidly high numbers to compensate for no gapcloser and no cc (depending on how you count his hook thing). He had a cool niche on I can totally fuck up anyone in a fight but mobility was a problem. He has since died due to how to exploit said weaknesses finally sinking their way into low elo. That and nerfs because low elo isn't particularly patient.

Also I made my classification Rengar+. I suppose we all have our definitions of recent depending on where we want to bias things. ^^

People aren't really used to champs having big strengths and big weaknesses, and if someone plays to his strengths and you don't know how to (or have to rely on your jungler to) abuse his weaknesses, that guy is going to look disgustingly overpowered.
Darius was the perfect example. You couldn't simply blindly pick a toplaner and beat him 1v1, so he was a big problem in blind pick, where you also couldn't depend on your jungler to take advantage of his low mobility and him having to push the lane to harass.

Thus, nerfs. I still think he's playable, though, but I don't really enjoy him, he just feels very unsatisfying to play now that everyone else has a way to escape

Riot will definitely nerf that which the community is crying about, so they have kinda forced themselves to make champions with average power levels and with no big strengths/weaknesses. Like I said, this isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it is true.


But that makes you ask, "WTF are they doing with AAtrox?"

I don't know, what are they? I read his skillset and judged him as yet another bruiser with a gapcloser and a twist, is he different somehow?


Earlier I said:

On June 07 2013 02:43 cLutZ wrote:
On June 06 2013 19:10 Jojo131 wrote:
On June 06 2013 18:44 justiceknight wrote:
On June 06 2013 17:18 cLutZ wrote:
Wow, So why is Aatrox still on the PBE? Can anyone explain to me how Riot hopes to balance this character in light of Fiora/Tryndamere?

He is not OP, just...the same.



its kinda weird that this is the 1st time i have seen the LEAST number of updates on PBE patches, the new hero kinda hype up when its 1st announced and i read nothing new about buff/nerfs on the patches.

Aatrox rant incoming
+ Show Spoiler +
Theres just something about this new champ that feels incredibly underwhelming at the moment. Not sure what's up with Riot and GA-like mechanics but this one seems like the most boring one of them all. I thought Zac was really good in terms of design with coherence to character, this guy just feels like a step down in every way. Lame character, lame design. Havent felt this way since Viktor T_T


Its not just his revive mechanic that is lame he also has other things that are just plain dumb.

1. His W is basically Hiten Style, except sometimes worse and sometimes better. Just like Irelia though, the whole kit revolves around W.
2. E is just a trash tier move. But it is just good enough to piss off Olaf players.
3. Q Is a Mini-unstoppable force that makes him nearly Kha-Zix ungankable, and quite difficult to towerdive.
4. Lamest ult in the game.

Plus he has random steroids all over the place. Its like they looked at Vlad, Irelia, Tryndamere, and Fiora and asked "What do people hate most about these champions?" and put it into 1 character.


I just played a game on PBE as jungle eve, against AATROX and my conclusions are the same. He is an ass to shut down though. We did manage to , and he does ass in teamfights if he goes tanky.

Is he rage inducing for the other team like Singed and Teemo? As long as he's fun to play, I don't really care about anything else


He is probably both.
FADC
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 07 2013 02:44 GMT
#5995
On June 07 2013 11:38 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 11:35 cLutZ wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:22 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:21 cLutZ wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:10 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:05 TheLink wrote:
On release Darius had stupidly high numbers to compensate for no gapcloser and no cc (depending on how you count his hook thing). He had a cool niche on I can totally fuck up anyone in a fight but mobility was a problem. He has since died due to how to exploit said weaknesses finally sinking their way into low elo. That and nerfs because low elo isn't particularly patient.

Also I made my classification Rengar+. I suppose we all have our definitions of recent depending on where we want to bias things. ^^

People aren't really used to champs having big strengths and big weaknesses, and if someone plays to his strengths and you don't know how to (or have to rely on your jungler to) abuse his weaknesses, that guy is going to look disgustingly overpowered.
Darius was the perfect example. You couldn't simply blindly pick a toplaner and beat him 1v1, so he was a big problem in blind pick, where you also couldn't depend on your jungler to take advantage of his low mobility and him having to push the lane to harass.

Thus, nerfs. I still think he's playable, though, but I don't really enjoy him, he just feels very unsatisfying to play now that everyone else has a way to escape

Riot will definitely nerf that which the community is crying about, so they have kinda forced themselves to make champions with average power levels and with no big strengths/weaknesses. Like I said, this isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it is true.


But that makes you ask, "WTF are they doing with AAtrox?"

I don't know, what are they? I read his skillset and judged him as yet another bruiser with a gapcloser and a twist, is he different somehow?


Earlier I said:

On June 07 2013 02:43 cLutZ wrote:
On June 06 2013 19:10 Jojo131 wrote:
On June 06 2013 18:44 justiceknight wrote:
On June 06 2013 17:18 cLutZ wrote:
Wow, So why is Aatrox still on the PBE? Can anyone explain to me how Riot hopes to balance this character in light of Fiora/Tryndamere?

He is not OP, just...the same.



its kinda weird that this is the 1st time i have seen the LEAST number of updates on PBE patches, the new hero kinda hype up when its 1st announced and i read nothing new about buff/nerfs on the patches.

Aatrox rant incoming
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Theres just something about this new champ that feels incredibly underwhelming at the moment. Not sure what's up with Riot and GA-like mechanics but this one seems like the most boring one of them all. I thought Zac was really good in terms of design with coherence to character, this guy just feels like a step down in every way. Lame character, lame design. Havent felt this way since Viktor T_T


Its not just his revive mechanic that is lame he also has other things that are just plain dumb.

1. His W is basically Hiten Style, except sometimes worse and sometimes better. Just like Irelia though, the whole kit revolves around W.
2. E is just a trash tier move. But it is just good enough to piss off Olaf players.
3. Q Is a Mini-unstoppable force that makes him nearly Kha-Zix ungankable, and quite difficult to towerdive.
4. Lamest ult in the game.

Plus he has random steroids all over the place. Its like they looked at Vlad, Irelia, Tryndamere, and Fiora and asked "What do people hate most about these champions?" and put it into 1 character.


I just played a game on PBE as jungle eve, against AATROX and my conclusions are the same. He is an ass to shut down though. We did manage to , and he does ass in teamfights if he goes tanky.

Is he rage inducing for the other team like Singed and Teemo? As long as he's fun to play, I don't really care about anything else


I would say Trynd analog in the rage department.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 07 2013 03:01 GMT
#5996
On June 07 2013 11:44 cLutZ wrote:
I would say Trynd analog in the rage department.

AP Trynd?

Cuz if so, that's gonna get nerfed, lol.
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101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
June 07 2013 03:02 GMT
#5997
On June 07 2013 11:38 OutlaW- wrote:
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On June 07 2013 11:35 cLutZ wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:22 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:21 cLutZ wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:10 OutlaW- wrote:
On June 07 2013 11:05 TheLink wrote:
On release Darius had stupidly high numbers to compensate for no gapcloser and no cc (depending on how you count his hook thing). He had a cool niche on I can totally fuck up anyone in a fight but mobility was a problem. He has since died due to how to exploit said weaknesses finally sinking their way into low elo. That and nerfs because low elo isn't particularly patient.

Also I made my classification Rengar+. I suppose we all have our definitions of recent depending on where we want to bias things. ^^

People aren't really used to champs having big strengths and big weaknesses, and if someone plays to his strengths and you don't know how to (or have to rely on your jungler to) abuse his weaknesses, that guy is going to look disgustingly overpowered.
Darius was the perfect example. You couldn't simply blindly pick a toplaner and beat him 1v1, so he was a big problem in blind pick, where you also couldn't depend on your jungler to take advantage of his low mobility and him having to push the lane to harass.

Thus, nerfs. I still think he's playable, though, but I don't really enjoy him, he just feels very unsatisfying to play now that everyone else has a way to escape

Riot will definitely nerf that which the community is crying about, so they have kinda forced themselves to make champions with average power levels and with no big strengths/weaknesses. Like I said, this isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it is true.


But that makes you ask, "WTF are they doing with AAtrox?"

I don't know, what are they? I read his skillset and judged him as yet another bruiser with a gapcloser and a twist, is he different somehow?


Earlier I said:

On June 07 2013 02:43 cLutZ wrote:
On June 06 2013 19:10 Jojo131 wrote:
On June 06 2013 18:44 justiceknight wrote:
On June 06 2013 17:18 cLutZ wrote:
Wow, So why is Aatrox still on the PBE? Can anyone explain to me how Riot hopes to balance this character in light of Fiora/Tryndamere?

He is not OP, just...the same.



its kinda weird that this is the 1st time i have seen the LEAST number of updates on PBE patches, the new hero kinda hype up when its 1st announced and i read nothing new about buff/nerfs on the patches.

Aatrox rant incoming
+ Show Spoiler +
Theres just something about this new champ that feels incredibly underwhelming at the moment. Not sure what's up with Riot and GA-like mechanics but this one seems like the most boring one of them all. I thought Zac was really good in terms of design with coherence to character, this guy just feels like a step down in every way. Lame character, lame design. Havent felt this way since Viktor T_T


Its not just his revive mechanic that is lame he also has other things that are just plain dumb.

1. His W is basically Hiten Style, except sometimes worse and sometimes better. Just like Irelia though, the whole kit revolves around W.
2. E is just a trash tier move. But it is just good enough to piss off Olaf players.
3. Q Is a Mini-unstoppable force that makes him nearly Kha-Zix ungankable, and quite difficult to towerdive.
4. Lamest ult in the game.

Plus he has random steroids all over the place. Its like they looked at Vlad, Irelia, Tryndamere, and Fiora and asked "What do people hate most about these champions?" and put it into 1 character.


I just played a game on PBE as jungle eve, against AATROX and my conclusions are the same. He is an ass to shut down though. We did manage to , and he does ass in teamfights if he goes tanky.

Is he rage inducing for the other team like Singed and Teemo? As long as he's fun to play, I don't really care about anything else

top nunu shits on those rage-inducers, wouldn't be surprised if the yeti also dumps on aatrox too
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
June 07 2013 03:05 GMT
#5998
On June 07 2013 12:01 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 11:44 cLutZ wrote:
I would say Trynd analog in the rage department.

AP Trynd?

Cuz if so, that's gonna get nerfed, lol.

AP Trynd is rarely seen after those first round of nerfs. I hope it doesn't return, that shit was annoying haha.
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schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
June 07 2013 03:09 GMT
#5999
CLG looking garbage on stream ~_~
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
June 07 2013 03:17 GMT
#6000
The last time I messed around with Aatrox he was simply dumb with BotRK + SV. The moment you drop to half health you become invincible because the healing on his W triples. He can practically solo baron with just those two items. He also becomes deceptively tanky because he gets so much free health from his passive and his ultimate.

He seems like the kind of champion that will snowball hard if given an advantage.
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