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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
May 29 2013 08:20 GMT
#3761
Jesus Maknoon on CLG. That would be so fucking awesome. Hotshot, MAKE IT HAPPEN.

#SorryNien
Retvrn to Forvms
SpectreSOF
Profile Joined July 2010
United States74 Posts
May 29 2013 08:22 GMT
#3762
If only CLG waited a day or two... think of possibilities.

Then again after their run in with locodoco it probably isn't the best idea...
The road to victory is a path paved with blood and corpses
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 29 2013 08:42 GMT
#3763
Loco on Support and MakNooN on Top isn't even comparable.

As much as I'd love the idea of MakNooN on CLG (hue), it does seem very reminiscent of what's going in with SC2 and WCS, hahaha.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 29 2013 08:45 GMT
#3764
Korea toplane is so harsh man. Maybe maknoon to KT B? Is that even an improvement who knows lol.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 29 2013 08:50 GMT
#3765
On May 29 2013 17:45 Numy wrote:
Korea toplane is so harsh man. Maybe maknoon to KT B? Is that even an improvement who knows lol.

Honestly InSec and Ssumday weren't even really improvements over Kakao and Ragan. Better individual skill, sure, but KT B had a winning formula that doesn't mesh as well with InSec and Ssumday's playstyles.
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Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
May 29 2013 08:53 GMT
#3766
On May 29 2013 17:42 NeoIllusions wrote:
Loco on Support and MakNooN on Top isn't even comparable.

As much as I'd love the idea of MakNooN on CLG (hue), it does seem very reminiscent of what's going in with SC2 and WCS, hahaha.


One Korean moving to play on an NA team is nothing like the WCS fiasco imo. It would be more like the sending foreigners to Korea to play Starcraft in that they become somewhat of a novelty act. If they ever start sending full teams of Koreans to here well then that would fooking suck.
Retvrn to Forvms
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 29 2013 08:56 GMT
#3767
On May 29 2013 17:50 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 17:45 Numy wrote:
Korea toplane is so harsh man. Maybe maknoon to KT B? Is that even an improvement who knows lol.

Honestly InSec and Ssumday weren't even really improvements over Kakao and Ragan. Better individual skill, sure, but KT B had a winning formula that doesn't mesh as well with InSec and Ssumday's playstyles.


Do you think it can change if one of them changes or are they both just not really meshing with KT B. I mean InSec looked better at all stars than he did in the season I feel.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 29 2013 09:02 GMT
#3768
@Chrispy, okok, maybe my jest wasn't the best. On second though, there could be a lot of good that arises if a Korean decided to join a NA team. :O

@yanger: fook inSec, guy is trash.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 29 2013 09:17 GMT
#3769
Wooe maknoon,

Kt a oe kt b as his next team seems likely never ever will he join clg though, im certain he still wants to actuall go and have a legit chance to win worlds
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
May 29 2013 09:20 GMT
#3770
For player like InSec, he would look vastly superior against people and teams that are worse then him. If his opponent is at least on par with him, it would make alot of his play stupid and sucidial.
There is no way a Korean want to join a NA/EU team, you need communication skills to actually play LOL. Loco was difference.
Terran
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
May 29 2013 09:32 GMT
#3771
There are rumours that the manager of KT Rolster personally enquired Reach (they go back a long way) about the availability of Maknoon, so it seems likely that Maknoon will stay in the Korean circuit for a while.

As for inSec, he is animalistic in his playstyle, but Kakao on his peak form has far superior map reading skills and counter-ganking timing and placement, so it's no surprise that KT Rolster B faltered slightly after both Ryu and Ssumday dropped in form.
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JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
May 29 2013 09:49 GMT
#3772
I really like Scarra's reflection on the Allstars. Glad he addressed glaring problems and it was cool to have insight on their picks, bans, and strategy.

I also learned a lot. I never thought about how important it is to keep your cc for the long lanes vs mid lane or when to pick TP vs Ignite and how your starting items should mesh well with your summoners. It seems like all the NA Allstars learned a lot and I expect their respective teams to improve due to the knowledge they bring back.
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WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
May 29 2013 10:12 GMT
#3773
I'm impressed by Scarra's way to handle the all star lose. Maybe he is a little too hard on himself, but criticizing yourself this way is a proof of character to me - not blaming anyone and realizing your own flaws.

Talking about this by the way :
http://www.team-dignitas.net/articles/blogs/League-of-Legends/3424/LCS-All-Stars-A-Jade-Reflection/
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
May 29 2013 10:38 GMT
#3774
KT B's problem is that all of them are individual stars except their support. Having 4 carry-oriented players on a team is nice until some of their individual skill falters. Score and Ssumday especially were much more impressive last season and it's showing.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 29 2013 11:17 GMT
#3775
Btw reading Scarra's reddit thread and seeing him say that Nien is super risky investment for clg reminded me of when Flame joined Blaze

Poor guy choked in his first few games OGN and at MLG, was called weak link and trash. ( Remember he had to fill Reapered's shoes)

Look where he's now... top3 world in his position.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 29 2013 11:19 GMT
#3776
I hope Nien goes the Flame route for sure.



:3
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JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
May 29 2013 11:34 GMT
#3777
Nien has always played a very selfish style in regards to farm, allowing teams to force objectives. His picks in mid for c9 meh...corki, gp etc...
I hope he can learn to play a more supportive role on CLG because he seems like a very nice person who strives to get better.

Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-29 11:41:11
May 29 2013 11:40 GMT
#3778
On May 29 2013 20:34 JonnyLaw wrote:
Nien has always played a very selfish style in regards to farm, allowing teams to force objectives. His picks in mid for c9 meh...corki, gp etc...
I hope he can learn to play a more supportive role on CLG because he seems like a very nice person who strives to get better.



Yea that's what first came to mind for me too. When he was playing mid for C9 he was super greedy and not really team orientated. Top is even easier to fall into a lone island role and don't know if that works in this meta anymore.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
May 29 2013 12:53 GMT
#3779
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1f968h/korean_lol_users_will_receive_a_free_skin_in/

Pretty hilarious for us EUW players
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
May 29 2013 13:06 GMT
#3780
CLG changes are reasonable I think

hotshot leaving is a very good thing for the team, him being a coach is even better because he is the owner/boss of the team so players HAVE to listen to him. also he has been playing at the top level of NA for his whole career. For a coach postition, I can't see anyone better suited for it than hotshot (only if he takes it seriously of course).

Nien is a gamble, I think a team that is aiming for a good placing at worlds/LCS playoffs need a very hight caliber top lane. And looking at the free agent market they did not find one where they saw the potencial they are looking for: the potencial to become a world contending top laner. But amongst those free agents, so they went with some1 that doesn't play the lane but they think has the potencial to develop into a force to be reckoned with. Similar to what happened to doublelift, going from a blitz player to one of the best ad carrys worldwide. My fear with nien is he might not like top lane. this guy is godly on ad carrys and went back on the position after being mid on a team.

chauster botlane: doublelift has this belief that he will get better only if chauster guide him and that him and chauster will be able to relive the goldendays of the invencible botlane. I am not sold yet, but the fact that doublelift will play with a support he trusts so much will be an improvement i think. At least he will not be able to put blame on his support and improve. (or internally think, well if this was chauster, this wouldn't have happened).

jiji jungle: Now here's the biggest ???, and a ??? so big it can make or break CLG next season. Sending chauster botlane to pamper the needs of their superstar leaves the jungler role vacant. From there they can pick a free agent jungler, or a free agent from another position and make him swich. Now I don't know CLG or anything but the feel of the team i get from their streams or interviews is that they "rate" players they play against. "this guy's good, this guy's trash" things like that. to pick a new player for their roster, they need someone they respect as a player. and with how hight egos fly in this house, there are not alot of players that fill that category, especially in NA. So they go back to jiji, they seem to think jiji's problem was his laning but he had a very good instinct in teamfights... again i'm pretty sure no1 has a clue of how that one will go. I get the feel that jiji here is kind of a "fill the position move", they are not looking for a super star, only a player with good execution who will follow chauster's commands.

Ultimatlyone should remember that in LCS the regular season doesn't have too much weight on the playoff's results. CLG is not looking to do well early, or even midway trought the season. They are aiming to breed their players and be an overall stronger team than what they are now when matchs actually matter (lcs playoff/worlds)
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
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