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On May 04 2013 05:31 Slayer91 wrote:
Actually I feel like it's more done when you don't really need a proper ad carry (maybe he won't be able to auto attack much anyway) but there's nobody else thats not an ad carry that lanes well botlane or at least that your ad player has practiced
urgots often used here but he's more of a front line guy has much less range to poke with
Then I don't see why you wouldn't pick something like Wukong for botlane where you can legitly and easily go like 10-0 early instead of some utility Ez that basically guarantees that the enemy AD gets farmed.
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On May 04 2013 05:30 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2013 05:26 Requizen wrote:On May 04 2013 05:25 jcarlsoniv wrote:On May 04 2013 05:21 Slayer91 wrote:On May 04 2013 05:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:On May 04 2013 05:03 thenexusp wrote:On May 04 2013 04:42 Ketara wrote:
The change to the "clamping" issue with league points is really hilarious.
I go from +3LP per win and -10~15 per loss to +5 per win and -3 per loss.
Wish that change had been made 3 months ago. Why do you wish this? You're not magically going to be in a higher division just because they changed their LP formulae (which, above all else, will converge to your MMR no matter what) League players are too impatient for asymptotes ;P It's always entertained me that lim (n -> infinity) where n = num games played on the LP curve = your true elo. I just like thinking about it that way cuz I'm weird like that haha. How is thinking about things in the correct way weird wtf. YOUR ELO IS WHATEVER JESUS THINKS IT SHOULD BE PRAY TO GOD EVERY NIGHT FOR HIM TO RAISE YOUR ELO OR PRAY TO FROGGEN WHATEVER WORKS It converges to your true elo a LOT faster than people think it does though. but it will fluctuate a certain amount until you reach infinity however people think true elo is some kind of thing you're born with when you can very easily improve even if its just playing your best champions nonono I mean I feel like it's weird cuz I legitimately see it in my head as a function converging to an asymptote (a constantly moving asymptote, but not all functions converge to fixed points anyway) sry Neo, didn't mean to perpetuate an elo discussion. spare me I'm in elo hell because my team keeps picking tanks instead of bruisers. Haha subtle. Nicely done.
This is a real legitimate complaint i don know why your making fun of me guise
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I like the blue Ez build. It's different, and it's clearly competitive.
It's one of those things I think that doesn't look super strong by the numbers, but then you see it in a real game and you're like "Oh. That's some bullshit."
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On May 04 2013 05:30 Shikyo wrote:Its the only mana/utility Ez that makes sense because he doesn't need to be able to 2v2 before all his items are done(which he's unable to do unless way fed). I personally have no clue why people run it bot. You can stack tear pretty fast, for example in an ARAM my Jayce stacked it by 12 minutes and Ezreal can do the same especially if he gets a blue. .
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On May 04 2013 05:33 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2013 05:31 Slayer91 wrote:
Actually I feel like it's more done when you don't really need a proper ad carry (maybe he won't be able to auto attack much anyway) but there's nobody else thats not an ad carry that lanes well botlane or at least that your ad player has practiced
urgots often used here but he's more of a front line guy has much less range to poke with Then I don't see why you wouldn't pick something like Wukong for botlane where you can legitly and easily go like 10-0 early instead of some utility Ez that basically guarantees that the enemy AD gets farmed.
Confused x2
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On May 04 2013 05:35 Ketara wrote:
I like the blue Ez build. It's different, and it's clearly competitive.
It's one of those things I think that doesn't look super strong by the numbers, but then you see it in a real game and you're like "Oh. That's some bullshit."
I've seen it work and I've seen it fail miserable. Viable, probably, but incredibly risky.
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On May 04 2013 05:41 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2013 05:35 Ketara wrote:
I like the blue Ez build. It's different, and it's clearly competitive.
It's one of those things I think that doesn't look super strong by the numbers, but then you see it in a real game and you're like "Oh. That's some bullshit." I've seen it work and I've seen it fail miserable. Viable, probably, but incredibly risky.
Battlemage Ezreal and the TPA skin are the only reason I will ever play that champ. Countdown to the TPA skins because yesplspewpew.
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On May 04 2013 05:42 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2013 05:41 onlywonderboy wrote:On May 04 2013 05:35 Ketara wrote:
I like the blue Ez build. It's different, and it's clearly competitive.
It's one of those things I think that doesn't look super strong by the numbers, but then you see it in a real game and you're like "Oh. That's some bullshit." I've seen it work and I've seen it fail miserable. Viable, probably, but incredibly risky. Battlemage Ezreal and the TPA skin are the only reason I will ever play that champ. Countdown to the TPA skins because yesplspewpew.
Time to buy the Shen skin and then never ever get to play it because he's permaban in Silver in pretty much 100% of games.
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On May 04 2013 05:43 Requizen wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2013 05:42 AsmodeusXI wrote:On May 04 2013 05:41 onlywonderboy wrote:On May 04 2013 05:35 Ketara wrote:
I like the blue Ez build. It's different, and it's clearly competitive.
It's one of those things I think that doesn't look super strong by the numbers, but then you see it in a real game and you're like "Oh. That's some bullshit." I've seen it work and I've seen it fail miserable. Viable, probably, but incredibly risky. Battlemage Ezreal and the TPA skin are the only reason I will ever play that champ. Countdown to the TPA skins because yesplspewpew. Time to buy the Shen skin and then never ever get to play it because he's permaban in Silver in pretty much 100% of games.
The key is to be second pick. The number of times I've gotten him when I'm second pick far outweighs the times I've tried to leave him open as first pick and get him. How much do you think the skin will cost?
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On May 04 2013 05:25 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2013 05:21 Slayer91 wrote:On May 04 2013 05:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:On May 04 2013 05:03 thenexusp wrote:On May 04 2013 04:42 Ketara wrote:
The change to the "clamping" issue with league points is really hilarious.
I go from +3LP per win and -10~15 per loss to +5 per win and -3 per loss.
Wish that change had been made 3 months ago. Why do you wish this? You're not magically going to be in a higher division just because they changed their LP formulae (which, above all else, will converge to your MMR no matter what) League players are too impatient for asymptotes ;P It's always entertained me that lim (n -> infinity) where n = num games played on the LP curve = your true elo. I just like thinking about it that way cuz I'm weird like that haha. How is thinking about things in the correct way weird wtf. YOUR ELO IS WHATEVER JESUS THINKS IT SHOULD BE PRAY TO GOD EVERY NIGHT FOR HIM TO RAISE YOUR ELO OR PRAY TO FROGGEN WHATEVER WORKS It converges to your true elo a LOT faster than people think it does though. but it will fluctuate a certain amount until you reach infinity however people think true elo is some kind of thing you're born with when you can very easily improve even if its just playing your best champions nonono I mean I feel like it's weird cuz I legitimately see it in my head as a function converging to an asymptote (a constantly moving asymptote, but not all functions converge to fixed points anyway) sry Neo, didn't mean to perpetuate an elo discussion. spare me
This is more math than Elo to me.
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On May 04 2013 05:45 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2013 05:43 Requizen wrote:On May 04 2013 05:42 AsmodeusXI wrote:On May 04 2013 05:41 onlywonderboy wrote:On May 04 2013 05:35 Ketara wrote:
I like the blue Ez build. It's different, and it's clearly competitive.
It's one of those things I think that doesn't look super strong by the numbers, but then you see it in a real game and you're like "Oh. That's some bullshit." I've seen it work and I've seen it fail miserable. Viable, probably, but incredibly risky. Battlemage Ezreal and the TPA skin are the only reason I will ever play that champ. Countdown to the TPA skins because yesplspewpew. Time to buy the Shen skin and then never ever get to play it because he's permaban in Silver in pretty much 100% of games. The key is to be second pick. The number of times I've gotten him when I'm second pick far outweighs the times I've tried to leave him open as first pick and get him. How much do you think the skin will cost?
Not sure. The preview videos are unfinished, but I hope there are different sound effects/particles. The Shen one should really have the sound of those clap tubes when his passive procs on an auto or something.
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Rio is going to make back the $1M they gave TPA for winningS2 with the Championship skins.
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On May 04 2013 05:45 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2013 05:43 Requizen wrote:On May 04 2013 05:42 AsmodeusXI wrote:On May 04 2013 05:41 onlywonderboy wrote:On May 04 2013 05:35 Ketara wrote:
I like the blue Ez build. It's different, and it's clearly competitive.
It's one of those things I think that doesn't look super strong by the numbers, but then you see it in a real game and you're like "Oh. That's some bullshit." I've seen it work and I've seen it fail miserable. Viable, probably, but incredibly risky. Battlemage Ezreal and the TPA skin are the only reason I will ever play that champ. Countdown to the TPA skins because yesplspewpew. Time to buy the Shen skin and then never ever get to play it because he's permaban in Silver in pretty much 100% of games. The key is to be second pick. The number of times I've gotten him when I'm second pick far outweighs the times I've tried to leave him open as first pick and get him. How much do you think the skin will cost?
750 I would assume. Only one that has any real change to their animations is Mundo throwing the trophy lol.
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Why am I fp over a diamond 4 as a plat 5
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On May 04 2013 05:54 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Why am I fp over a diamond 4 as a plat 5
Because you are the zerg russian god of elo.
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On May 04 2013 05:03 thenexusp wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2013 04:42 Ketara wrote:
The change to the "clamping" issue with league points is really hilarious.
I go from +3LP per win and -10~15 per loss to +5 per win and -3 per loss.
Wish that change had been made 3 months ago. Why do you wish this? You're not magically going to be in a higher division just because they changed their LP formulae (which, above all else, will converge to your MMR no matter what)
Can't talk for him, but after the patch I'm winning +26 and losing -13.
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On May 04 2013 05:54 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Why am I fp over a diamond 4 as a plat 5
Just have a look to LoLnexus from time and time and you'll see that even without a premade it happens pretty often. Streaks and stuff like that probably play a lot into it (I've had something like 4-13 for this week in ranked, and still only lost around 30 LP overall, though I'm pretty sure with the brackets I'd actually have lot enough Elo to drop down a league or two).
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On May 04 2013 05:33 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2013 05:31 Slayer91 wrote:
Actually I feel like it's more done when you don't really need a proper ad carry (maybe he won't be able to auto attack much anyway) but there's nobody else thats not an ad carry that lanes well botlane or at least that your ad player has practiced
urgots often used here but he's more of a front line guy has much less range to poke with Then I don't see why you wouldn't pick something like Wukong for botlane where you can legitly and easily go like 10-0 early instead of some utility Ez that basically guarantees that the enemy AD gets farmed.
If bruisers botlane actually worked like that I guarantee you people would pick them
I've played a lot of bruiser bot lane (a lot of wukong specifically as well because his W lets him trade and get out without losing all his hp, lee sin can do similar, fiora because of her double Q if the enemy AD has a jump and her W and movement speed boost to chase) and it's definitely got potential but its hard to make work and very vulnerable to jungle ganks because of the reliance on all in because you have no way to deal with poke from 2 champions
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On May 04 2013 05:48 ticklishmusic wrote:
Rio is going to make back the $1M they gave TPA for winningS2 with the Championship skins.
hahahahaha
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On May 04 2013 06:06 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 04 2013 05:33 Shikyo wrote:On May 04 2013 05:31 Slayer91 wrote:
Actually I feel like it's more done when you don't really need a proper ad carry (maybe he won't be able to auto attack much anyway) but there's nobody else thats not an ad carry that lanes well botlane or at least that your ad player has practiced
urgots often used here but he's more of a front line guy has much less range to poke with Then I don't see why you wouldn't pick something like Wukong for botlane where you can legitly and easily go like 10-0 early instead of some utility Ez that basically guarantees that the enemy AD gets farmed. If bruisers botlane actually worked like that I guarantee you people would pick them I've played a lot of bruiser bot lane (a lot of wukong specifically as well because his W lets him trade and get out without losing all his hp, lee sin can do similar, fiora because of her double Q if the enemy AD has a jump and her W and movement speed boost to chase) and it's definitely got potential but its hard to make work and very vulnerable to jungle ganks because of the reliance on all in because you have no way to deal with poke from 2 champions
I've been fiddling around with the idea of Fiora bottom lane but no one has let me pick her there yet. She at least can deal with harrass - In fact, if you max W first(which is good to do anyway) you basically completely negate harrass as well as allins. Probably only as a counterpick to something non-graves but still feels good.
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pretty sure PF Ezreal funded the whole NA+EU LCS expenses alone lol
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