• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 02:33
CET 08:33
KST 16:33
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced! What's the best tug of war? The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
How soO Began His ProGaming Dreams Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA) BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Mechabellum Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
12 Days of Starcraft US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread How Does UI/UX Design Influence User Trust?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1358 users

[Patch 3.06: Lissandra Patch] General Discussion - Page 59

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 57 58 59 60 61 189 Next
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 03 2013 18:40 GMT
#1161
On May 04 2013 03:39 Ketara wrote:
Soniv stop being a butt and stream, you butt.


I'm at work. Tomorrow will be my big stream day
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 03 2013 18:40 GMT
#1162
On May 04 2013 03:21 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 03:14 onlywonderboy wrote:
I love playing the Murderbug, I think that makes me a bad person.


I'm sure you were a bad person before Kha came out too.

Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 03:16 Slayer91 wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:13 Alaric wrote:
But doesn't that mean that I can't hate something unless I understand it? In that case I'm only making myself a very knowledgeable fellow, and it's all about becoming a better person.


It means you understand what its to be on the winning side of a match up (im sure it happens some time!)
it doesnt mean you're developing a better understanding of the issue by hating it because you can't think of a good counterplay.
However I do find writing about something is a good way to think about it which leads to the "delete half your posts mid-writing" syndrome. (we know who we are)


I have no idea who you're talking about.

It's more of a confirmation than anything else.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 03 2013 18:42 GMT
#1163
On May 04 2013 03:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 03:21 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:14 onlywonderboy wrote:
I love playing the Murderbug, I think that makes me a bad person.


I'm sure you were a bad person before Kha came out too.

On May 04 2013 03:16 Slayer91 wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:13 Alaric wrote:
But doesn't that mean that I can't hate something unless I understand it? In that case I'm only making myself a very knowledgeable fellow, and it's all about becoming a better person.


It means you understand what its to be on the winning side of a match up (im sure it happens some time!)
it doesnt mean you're developing a better understanding of the issue by hating it because you can't think of a good counterplay.
However I do find writing about something is a good way to think about it which leads to the "delete half your posts mid-writing" syndrome. (we know who we are)


I have no idea who you're talking about.

It's more of a confirmation than anything else.


That's okay, I'm about to spend this whole patch abusing the fuck out of Sej and Karma.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
May 03 2013 18:42 GMT
#1164
So how does one play/build mid Lissandra?

Her kits seems pretty strong but I can't seem to win/do anything with her :[
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 03 2013 18:43 GMT
#1165
On May 04 2013 03:42 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 03:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:21 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:14 onlywonderboy wrote:
I love playing the Murderbug, I think that makes me a bad person.


I'm sure you were a bad person before Kha came out too.

On May 04 2013 03:16 Slayer91 wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:13 Alaric wrote:
But doesn't that mean that I can't hate something unless I understand it? In that case I'm only making myself a very knowledgeable fellow, and it's all about becoming a better person.


It means you understand what its to be on the winning side of a match up (im sure it happens some time!)
it doesnt mean you're developing a better understanding of the issue by hating it because you can't think of a good counterplay.
However I do find writing about something is a good way to think about it which leads to the "delete half your posts mid-writing" syndrome. (we know who we are)


I have no idea who you're talking about.

It's more of a confirmation than anything else.


That's okay, I'm about to spend this whole patch abusing the fuck out of Sej and Karma.


Oh I COMPLETELY forgot that Karma got completely overbuffed this patch.

Tomorrow gonna be fun
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
May 03 2013 18:47 GMT
#1166
wow they're killing ap sion? time to only play AP sion until that happens
rip my elo and my favorite zombie
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 03 2013 18:49 GMT
#1167
On May 04 2013 03:42 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 03:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:21 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:14 onlywonderboy wrote:
I love playing the Murderbug, I think that makes me a bad person.


I'm sure you were a bad person before Kha came out too.

On May 04 2013 03:16 Slayer91 wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:13 Alaric wrote:
But doesn't that mean that I can't hate something unless I understand it? In that case I'm only making myself a very knowledgeable fellow, and it's all about becoming a better person.


It means you understand what its to be on the winning side of a match up (im sure it happens some time!)
it doesnt mean you're developing a better understanding of the issue by hating it because you can't think of a good counterplay.
However I do find writing about something is a good way to think about it which leads to the "delete half your posts mid-writing" syndrome. (we know who we are)


I have no idea who you're talking about.

It's more of a confirmation than anything else.


That's okay, I'm about to spend this whole patch abusing the fuck out of Sej and Karma.

Hey, I liked Kha even when he was "UP." I just wasn't smart enough to realize how OP W max/evolve was lol.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
May 03 2013 18:50 GMT
#1168
On May 04 2013 03:24 BlackPaladin wrote:
I actually like playing tons of different champs like sion, kha, nasus, veigar, irelia, etc and many of them simply became fotm at one point. I like their kits. I like how they play. Maybe people should find ways to play against them instead of just calling stuff "toxic." This isn't pokemon. Toxic is not a move in LoL.


Like Wither but with damage. Riot plz add.

I would be fine with Sion's removal from the game if Riot was going to bring back the W mechanic on somebody else, but Morello seems to indicate that isn't happening. Such a shame, especially since there isn't anything like it in LoL or DotA (Aphotic Shield coming closest, but not very). And as I mentioned before, that sound is just too good. Faint whine that builds and gets louder and louder until BOOM- so viscerally satisfying.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 18:50:54
May 03 2013 18:50 GMT
#1169
On May 04 2013 03:39 Roffles wrote:
Alaric's only mad at everything because he never wins a game. Just take a look at his 2 to 3 entries per day in the QQ thread.


I don't even read most of the shit that escapes into the GD (at least its somewhat well thought out), I didn't realize he used that thread as well.
*shudders*
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 19:01:50
May 03 2013 18:59 GMT
#1170
On May 04 2013 03:30 Slayer91 wrote:
Don't worry, clearly the only reason you lose is your refusal to conform and pick the FoTM champs!

I intended it as a joke, but we actually managed to lose the game in 30 minutes (31, but it's almost the same!). Plus there was a Zac jungle on the other team so clearly that's because I wasn't playing FotM.
(Though tbh, having Leona as my main support I cringed a lot when our premade fed the opponent's own premade. Picking Leona when you plan to play Ezreal by rushing Tear and Gauntlet hurts my brain. )

On May 04 2013 03:39 Roffles wrote:
Alaric's only mad at everything because he never wins a game. Just take a look at his 2 to 3 entries per day in the QQ thread.

Aww. Apart from yesterday's, the previous one was a few weeks ago, y u so mean?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 03 2013 19:07 GMT
#1171
On May 04 2013 03:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 03:42 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:21 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:14 onlywonderboy wrote:
I love playing the Murderbug, I think that makes me a bad person.


I'm sure you were a bad person before Kha came out too.

On May 04 2013 03:16 Slayer91 wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:13 Alaric wrote:
But doesn't that mean that I can't hate something unless I understand it? In that case I'm only making myself a very knowledgeable fellow, and it's all about becoming a better person.


It means you understand what its to be on the winning side of a match up (im sure it happens some time!)
it doesnt mean you're developing a better understanding of the issue by hating it because you can't think of a good counterplay.
However I do find writing about something is a good way to think about it which leads to the "delete half your posts mid-writing" syndrome. (we know who we are)


I have no idea who you're talking about.

It's more of a confirmation than anything else.


That's okay, I'm about to spend this whole patch abusing the fuck out of Sej and Karma.


Oh I COMPLETELY forgot that Karma got completely overbuffed this patch.

Tomorrow gonna be fun

Would Karma be viable as a support now?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 19:08:34
May 03 2013 19:08 GMT
#1172
No
never was never will be
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 03 2013 19:26 GMT
#1173
Lol Slayer so blunt

But yeah, I don't see a reason I'd pick her as a support.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 03 2013 19:39 GMT
#1174
You do see a reason to pick Elise as a support though?

So you really cannot still play her as a support? Well that sucks
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 03 2013 19:41 GMT
#1175
On May 04 2013 04:39 Shikyo wrote:
You do see a reason to pick Elise as a support though?

So you really cannot still play her as a support? Well that sucks


I don't play Elise support, so I don't have any insight on that.

I mean, you CAN pick Karma as a support. She has a ton of utility. But with all the other supports out there, and the strength of a solo lane Karma, I personally wouldn't pick Karma as a support.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 03 2013 19:42 GMT
#1176
The change to the "clamping" issue with league points is really hilarious.

I go from +3LP per win and -10~15 per loss to +5 per win and -3 per loss.

Wish that change had been made 3 months ago.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 03 2013 19:43 GMT
#1177
I dunno, I just win +3 and lose -4/5 and went from 71 to 35 lately, so I was never near the 80+ threshold.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
May 03 2013 19:44 GMT
#1178
You can play anyone as a support. Support ultimates tend to be the best in the game so you'd better have a really good reason to play her.

Elise is retardedly strong in lane since she's basically 2 champs offensively so I guess thats why she's a good support there. She also has a lot of %hp damage so she doesn't rely on items for AP.
Karma is the opposite of that relying a lot of AP and having a limited skillset in terms of engaging and poking. (only 1 mantra and 2 damage abilities 1 dodgeable and 1 shield with utility that doesn't help you in a fight range vs range)
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 03 2013 19:45 GMT
#1179
On May 04 2013 04:39 Shikyo wrote:
You do see a reason to pick Elise as a support though?

So you really cannot still play her as a support? Well that sucks

Elise does more damage without items (yay %health damage). She is already run as more of a "kill lane" support (damage > utility). Karma provides a lot of utility, but the lack of a true ult makes her really weird to play as a support. You have an advantage early when you have your mantra charges, but once you hit 6 the enemy support jumps way ahead of you in terms of presence.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 03 2013 19:50 GMT
#1180
Elise works as a support because her mana costs are tiny (easy harassing), she nukes health bars without building any damage, and her stun is one of the best zoning tools in the game.
It's your boy Guzma!
Prev 1 57 58 59 60 61 189 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
01:00
StarCraft Evolution League #17
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft685
Nina 221
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 25922
Rain 5309
Shuttle 373
Larva 307
Leta 189
scan(afreeca) 58
NotJumperer 17
Sharp 10
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm177
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 643
C9.Mang0480
Counter-Strike
summit1g9335
minikerr279
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor109
Other Games
KawaiiRice7
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick769
BasetradeTV55
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• practicex 43
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2802
League of Legends
• Rush1466
• Lourlo1368
• HappyZerGling116
Upcoming Events
BSL 21
12h 27m
Sziky vs eOnzErG
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 2h
Krystianer vs TBD
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs TBD
ByuN vs Nicoract
OSC
1d 10h
BSL 21
1d 12h
Cross vs Dewalt
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
OSC
3 days
Solar vs MaxPax
ByuN vs Krystianer
Spirit vs TBD
OSC
6 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1 - W1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1 - W2
Escore Tournament S1 - W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.