• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:31
CET 10:31
KST 18:31
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
Liquibets sc2 season 30 Evil Geniuses - shutting down Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles Mutation # 548 Shining Bright
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Rollback Netcode in Brood War Top Players of October 2026 (EBPD Rankings) [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos How SKT1 S-Tiers Felt To Be Swept By Flash
Tourneys
New Worlds Star League [$1250] International ShieldBattery League [Megathread] Daily Proleagues 2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Deus Ex 3!? Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 11269 users

[Patch 3.06: Lissandra Patch] General Discussion - Page 59

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 57 58 59 60 61 189 Next
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 03 2013 18:40 GMT
#1161
On May 04 2013 03:39 Ketara wrote:
Soniv stop being a butt and stream, you butt.


I'm at work. Tomorrow will be my big stream day
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 03 2013 18:40 GMT
#1162
On May 04 2013 03:21 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 03:14 onlywonderboy wrote:
I love playing the Murderbug, I think that makes me a bad person.


I'm sure you were a bad person before Kha came out too.

Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 03:16 Slayer91 wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:13 Alaric wrote:
But doesn't that mean that I can't hate something unless I understand it? In that case I'm only making myself a very knowledgeable fellow, and it's all about becoming a better person.


It means you understand what its to be on the winning side of a match up (im sure it happens some time!)
it doesnt mean you're developing a better understanding of the issue by hating it because you can't think of a good counterplay.
However I do find writing about something is a good way to think about it which leads to the "delete half your posts mid-writing" syndrome. (we know who we are)


I have no idea who you're talking about.

It's more of a confirmation than anything else.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 03 2013 18:42 GMT
#1163
On May 04 2013 03:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 03:21 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:14 onlywonderboy wrote:
I love playing the Murderbug, I think that makes me a bad person.


I'm sure you were a bad person before Kha came out too.

On May 04 2013 03:16 Slayer91 wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:13 Alaric wrote:
But doesn't that mean that I can't hate something unless I understand it? In that case I'm only making myself a very knowledgeable fellow, and it's all about becoming a better person.


It means you understand what its to be on the winning side of a match up (im sure it happens some time!)
it doesnt mean you're developing a better understanding of the issue by hating it because you can't think of a good counterplay.
However I do find writing about something is a good way to think about it which leads to the "delete half your posts mid-writing" syndrome. (we know who we are)


I have no idea who you're talking about.

It's more of a confirmation than anything else.


That's okay, I'm about to spend this whole patch abusing the fuck out of Sej and Karma.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
May 03 2013 18:42 GMT
#1164
So how does one play/build mid Lissandra?

Her kits seems pretty strong but I can't seem to win/do anything with her :[
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 03 2013 18:43 GMT
#1165
On May 04 2013 03:42 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 03:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:21 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:14 onlywonderboy wrote:
I love playing the Murderbug, I think that makes me a bad person.


I'm sure you were a bad person before Kha came out too.

On May 04 2013 03:16 Slayer91 wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:13 Alaric wrote:
But doesn't that mean that I can't hate something unless I understand it? In that case I'm only making myself a very knowledgeable fellow, and it's all about becoming a better person.


It means you understand what its to be on the winning side of a match up (im sure it happens some time!)
it doesnt mean you're developing a better understanding of the issue by hating it because you can't think of a good counterplay.
However I do find writing about something is a good way to think about it which leads to the "delete half your posts mid-writing" syndrome. (we know who we are)


I have no idea who you're talking about.

It's more of a confirmation than anything else.


That's okay, I'm about to spend this whole patch abusing the fuck out of Sej and Karma.


Oh I COMPLETELY forgot that Karma got completely overbuffed this patch.

Tomorrow gonna be fun
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
May 03 2013 18:47 GMT
#1166
wow they're killing ap sion? time to only play AP sion until that happens
rip my elo and my favorite zombie
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 03 2013 18:49 GMT
#1167
On May 04 2013 03:42 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 03:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:21 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:14 onlywonderboy wrote:
I love playing the Murderbug, I think that makes me a bad person.


I'm sure you were a bad person before Kha came out too.

On May 04 2013 03:16 Slayer91 wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:13 Alaric wrote:
But doesn't that mean that I can't hate something unless I understand it? In that case I'm only making myself a very knowledgeable fellow, and it's all about becoming a better person.


It means you understand what its to be on the winning side of a match up (im sure it happens some time!)
it doesnt mean you're developing a better understanding of the issue by hating it because you can't think of a good counterplay.
However I do find writing about something is a good way to think about it which leads to the "delete half your posts mid-writing" syndrome. (we know who we are)


I have no idea who you're talking about.

It's more of a confirmation than anything else.


That's okay, I'm about to spend this whole patch abusing the fuck out of Sej and Karma.

Hey, I liked Kha even when he was "UP." I just wasn't smart enough to realize how OP W max/evolve was lol.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
HPoirot
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1303 Posts
May 03 2013 18:50 GMT
#1168
On May 04 2013 03:24 BlackPaladin wrote:
I actually like playing tons of different champs like sion, kha, nasus, veigar, irelia, etc and many of them simply became fotm at one point. I like their kits. I like how they play. Maybe people should find ways to play against them instead of just calling stuff "toxic." This isn't pokemon. Toxic is not a move in LoL.


Like Wither but with damage. Riot plz add.

I would be fine with Sion's removal from the game if Riot was going to bring back the W mechanic on somebody else, but Morello seems to indicate that isn't happening. Such a shame, especially since there isn't anything like it in LoL or DotA (Aphotic Shield coming closest, but not very). And as I mentioned before, that sound is just too good. Faint whine that builds and gets louder and louder until BOOM- so viscerally satisfying.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23464 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 18:50:54
May 03 2013 18:50 GMT
#1169
On May 04 2013 03:39 Roffles wrote:
Alaric's only mad at everything because he never wins a game. Just take a look at his 2 to 3 entries per day in the QQ thread.


I don't even read most of the shit that escapes into the GD (at least its somewhat well thought out), I didn't realize he used that thread as well.
*shudders*
aka Teutonica
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 19:01:50
May 03 2013 18:59 GMT
#1170
On May 04 2013 03:30 Slayer91 wrote:
Don't worry, clearly the only reason you lose is your refusal to conform and pick the FoTM champs!

I intended it as a joke, but we actually managed to lose the game in 30 minutes (31, but it's almost the same!). Plus there was a Zac jungle on the other team so clearly that's because I wasn't playing FotM.
(Though tbh, having Leona as my main support I cringed a lot when our premade fed the opponent's own premade. Picking Leona when you plan to play Ezreal by rushing Tear and Gauntlet hurts my brain. )

On May 04 2013 03:39 Roffles wrote:
Alaric's only mad at everything because he never wins a game. Just take a look at his 2 to 3 entries per day in the QQ thread.

Aww. Apart from yesterday's, the previous one was a few weeks ago, y u so mean?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 03 2013 19:07 GMT
#1171
On May 04 2013 03:43 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2013 03:42 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:40 onlywonderboy wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:21 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:14 onlywonderboy wrote:
I love playing the Murderbug, I think that makes me a bad person.


I'm sure you were a bad person before Kha came out too.

On May 04 2013 03:16 Slayer91 wrote:
On May 04 2013 03:13 Alaric wrote:
But doesn't that mean that I can't hate something unless I understand it? In that case I'm only making myself a very knowledgeable fellow, and it's all about becoming a better person.


It means you understand what its to be on the winning side of a match up (im sure it happens some time!)
it doesnt mean you're developing a better understanding of the issue by hating it because you can't think of a good counterplay.
However I do find writing about something is a good way to think about it which leads to the "delete half your posts mid-writing" syndrome. (we know who we are)


I have no idea who you're talking about.

It's more of a confirmation than anything else.


That's okay, I'm about to spend this whole patch abusing the fuck out of Sej and Karma.


Oh I COMPLETELY forgot that Karma got completely overbuffed this patch.

Tomorrow gonna be fun

Would Karma be viable as a support now?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23464 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 19:08:34
May 03 2013 19:08 GMT
#1172
No
never was never will be
aka Teutonica
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 03 2013 19:26 GMT
#1173
Lol Slayer so blunt

But yeah, I don't see a reason I'd pick her as a support.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 03 2013 19:39 GMT
#1174
You do see a reason to pick Elise as a support though?

So you really cannot still play her as a support? Well that sucks
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 03 2013 19:41 GMT
#1175
On May 04 2013 04:39 Shikyo wrote:
You do see a reason to pick Elise as a support though?

So you really cannot still play her as a support? Well that sucks


I don't play Elise support, so I don't have any insight on that.

I mean, you CAN pick Karma as a support. She has a ton of utility. But with all the other supports out there, and the strength of a solo lane Karma, I personally wouldn't pick Karma as a support.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
May 03 2013 19:42 GMT
#1176
The change to the "clamping" issue with league points is really hilarious.

I go from +3LP per win and -10~15 per loss to +5 per win and -3 per loss.

Wish that change had been made 3 months ago.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 03 2013 19:43 GMT
#1177
I dunno, I just win +3 and lose -4/5 and went from 71 to 35 lately, so I was never near the 80+ threshold.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23464 Posts
May 03 2013 19:44 GMT
#1178
You can play anyone as a support. Support ultimates tend to be the best in the game so you'd better have a really good reason to play her.

Elise is retardedly strong in lane since she's basically 2 champs offensively so I guess thats why she's a good support there. She also has a lot of %hp damage so she doesn't rely on items for AP.
Karma is the opposite of that relying a lot of AP and having a limited skillset in terms of engaging and poking. (only 1 mantra and 2 damage abilities 1 dodgeable and 1 shield with utility that doesn't help you in a fight range vs range)
aka Teutonica
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
May 03 2013 19:45 GMT
#1179
On May 04 2013 04:39 Shikyo wrote:
You do see a reason to pick Elise as a support though?

So you really cannot still play her as a support? Well that sucks

Elise does more damage without items (yay %health damage). She is already run as more of a "kill lane" support (damage > utility). Karma provides a lot of utility, but the lack of a true ult makes her really weird to play as a support. You have an advantage early when you have your mantra charges, but once you hit 6 the enemy support jumps way ahead of you in terms of presence.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 03 2013 19:50 GMT
#1180
Elise works as a support because her mana costs are tiny (easy harassing), she nukes health bars without building any damage, and her stun is one of the best zoning tools in the game.
It's your boy Guzma!
Prev 1 57 58 59 60 61 189 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 29m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
JimRising 416
Codebar 34
StarCraft: Brood War
firebathero 315
Mini 252
Zeus 139
Hyuk 132
hero 119
ProTech104
Dewaltoss 83
Larva 77
Killer 68
Shinee 66
[ Show more ]
Hyun 46
Rush 34
Hm[arnc] 28
sorry 22
ZerO 21
soO 16
Terrorterran 7
LuMiX 2
Dota 2
ODPixel272
League of Legends
Reynor90
Counter-Strike
fl0m4508
olofmeister398
allub267
Other Games
XaKoH 556
ceh9497
dupreeh387
Happy381
ZerO(Twitch)1
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick507
Counter-Strike
PGL159
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 7
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 14
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2267
League of Legends
• Stunt433
Upcoming Events
Kung Fu Cup
1h 29m
Replay Cast
13h 29m
The PondCast
1d
KCM Race Survival
1d
OSC
1d 4h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
Reynor vs Solar
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs MaxPax
herO vs Rogue
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
IPSL
3 days
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
AI Arena Tournament
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
IPSL
4 days
Azhi_Dahaki vs ggnore13
Double vs WIZARD
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
PiGosaur Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-02
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.