EPT[Patch 3.06: Lissandra Patch] General Discussion - Page 35
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OutlaW-
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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I only lose about 40% of the time so multiply that by .4 and I'm probably coming up on about 5k games total Even if each game is only half an hour then that's still 2.5k hours of LoL played I also used to be in a scbw clan called NO PRIDE NO LIFE npnl HWAITING | ||
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
On May 02 2013 08:58 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: No, this is wrong. When you approach a promotion from a division 1 to another league for the first time, the system ARTIFICIALLY CAPS YOUR LP GAINS regardless of your MMR. The trick is to lose one game then win the very next after getting really close. I was at 70~ and gained 12 6 4 3 3 to put me at 98 then lost one for -21 to put me down to 77 then won one and it instantly put me into a promo series. Before that I was gaining +30~ a win and now that I'm in plat 5 I'm getting about +24 a win. It's a super stupid artificial cap that only happens at the 1st division of your league promo approach. Yeah, had the same thing in gold 1. Freaked out when I won 1-2 points per game, then lost 16, but after that loss, I got straight into promotion. Riot put that cap in to make sure people don't get into a higher league because of a fluke streak, then just lose games and stay close to 0 LP in the lowest division. The system is strange, but just keep playing (and winning  ) and you'll get your promotion eventually. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On May 02 2013 09:05 OutlaW- wrote: Shouldn't we have a best riven NA thread? It's one of the first tournaments that I'm actually excited for. Take charge. Go make a thread. np | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
varus + soraka is stupid, the cc on varus makes up for the weakness of the sivir/raka lane. you can go like wqewqr and play a tanky soraka where you just run in, bait the enemy team into fighting you, heal yourself and then murder them with q spam/shred and blight. all you need is chalice + ss and you're pretty much good to go. | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On May 02 2013 09:08 zodde wrote: Yeah, had the same thing in gold 1. Freaked out when I won 1-2 points per game, then lost 16, but after that loss, I got straight into promotion. Riot put that cap in to make sure people don't get into a higher league because of a fluke streak, then just lose games and stay close to 0 LP in the lowest division. The system is strange, but just keep playing (and winning ) and you'll get your promotion eventually.Riot's MMR calculation probably has 'momentum' style variables in it that don't play nice with big win streaks(especially coming up on promotion from a league), and once you lose it 'sets' your MMR at a nice place that gets you your big LP jump to promo series. WC3 Ladder system comes to mind. I'm almost positive it isn't just a background Elo system(even their old system had MMR behind the Elo). | ||
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
On May 02 2013 09:18 ticklishmusic wrote: not gonna lie, i think soraka might be hipster op. varus + soraka is stupid, the cc on varus makes up for the weakness of the sivir/raka lane. you can go like wqewqr and play a tanky soraka where you just run in, bait the enemy team into fighting you, heal yourself and then murder them with q spam/shred and blight. all you need is chalice + ss and you're pretty much good to go. Soraka + blue build ez has some merits as well, if you don't die first few levels, ez can just spam spells nonstop, with endless mana and great sustain from soraka. Not gonna call it op or anything, but it could be strong. @_red: Maybe, but I had a friend who went from gold 3 to plat promotion series without a loss, and his LP gain never even slowed down. He just went like 42->60->80->promo series in gold 1, which is nothing like the experiences I have had in gold 1. Would be nice if Riot just explained exactly how the system works. Maybe it would be too easy to abuse, but right now it's just kinda confusing. Or maybe I should just play the game and stop thinking so much, iono. | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
I miss him. r.i,p | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On May 02 2013 09:45 Fionn wrote: My first champion was Gangplank. I was like 80% with him. I miss him. r.i,p He's still viable in terms of soloq | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
On May 02 2013 09:45 Fionn wrote: My first champion was Gangplank. I was like 80% with him. I miss him. r.i,p you can still play him he's still alive | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On May 02 2013 09:57 OutlaW- wrote: Has there been any consensus reached in the BotRK vs BT on Vayne? I never know which one to get, and can't adequately decide just from my anecdotal evidence. Both sides have their advantages.. BoRK is only good for the active, so get it when someone's going to be diving you and Tumble and Condemn won't be enough. Otherwise, Statikk Shiv or IE is where it's at. What's the appeal of BT? | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
he good at 2v1 tops too. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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Lord Tolkien
United States12084 Posts
...I'm just going to post a spreadsheet of the difference in starts/build paths in the TL thread. On May 02 2013 09:57 OutlaW- wrote: Has there been any consensus reached in the BotRK vs BT on Vayne? I never know which one to get, and can't adequately decide just from my anecdotal evidence. Both sides have their advantages.. BotRK is better versus a tanky frontline (likely health stacking? Yes), and the active is a very nice bit of kiting and small burst sustain. BT is generally better against squishier teams. Beyond that, it depends. BotRK is better for 1-item damage then BT, and also slightly better if you're behind (given stacking on BT). BT is better if you're ahead, and a BF sword isa major lane item buy (greater then Cutlass). On May 02 2013 10:03 Alzadar wrote: Otherwise, Statikk Shiv or IE is where it's at. What's the appeal of BT? Vayne can't survive if she goes IE/SS/PD first, unless the enemy team is seriously improperly built. Comparatively short range means she needs the sustain to bolster her survivability compared to Ashe, Cait, Twitch, Kog, and Trist, whose longer ranges mean they can go the IE/PD/LW given their greater safety. Vayne ain't safe. | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On May 02 2013 10:00 MooMooMugi wrote: Omg anyone else think Nunu's new icon is hideous?!!? Splash art is cool, icon not so much. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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Dark_Chill
Canada3353 Posts
On May 02 2013 10:15 Lord Tolkien wrote: Why do all the players I spectate/watch on stream get AD runes over ArPen runes on Fiora? Whyyyyy. AD runes gimp her damage, unless it's level 1 and you started Q (you lose damage vs ArPen page starting level 2). <_> At basically every other point in the game, ArPen is better (unless you need the AD to last hit, but wtf you have a free fort pot in damage for a W for last hitting). ...I'm just going to post a spreadsheet of the difference in starts/build paths in the TL thread. BotRK is better versus a tanky frontline (likely health stacking? Yes), and the active is a very nice bit of kiting and small burst sustain. BT is generally better against squishier teams. Beyond that, it depends. BotRK is better for 1-item damage then BT, and also slightly better if you're behind (given stacking on BT). BT is better if you're ahead, and a BF sword isa major lane item buy (greater then Cutlass). Vayne can't survive if she goes IE/SS/PD first, unless the enemy team is seriously improperly built. Comparatively short range means she needs the sustain to bolster her survivability compared to Ashe, Cait, Twitch, Kog, and Trist, whose longer ranges mean they can go the IE/PD/LW given their greater safety. Vayne ain't safe. But will that BT actually do much in an actual fight? I can see it working wonders during clean up, but in a big fight I'd think that life steal is moot when you're dead the second they get on you (and with vayne's short range, it's even worse). Seems to me that you'd want to deal as much damage as possible while your cooldowns aren't yet all down, and IE would be best for that. | ||
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