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wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
May 01 2013 23:28 GMT
#661
well that might be your problem. nunu these days feels like a horrible support to me imo. vayne/nunu just feels even weaker
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
May 01 2013 23:30 GMT
#662
On May 02 2013 08:26 upperbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 08:08 sob3k wrote:
On May 02 2013 08:05 GettingIt wrote:
I just started getting +4 and +5 pts for wins in GOLD I. How long until I actually get some decent points for wins? Or am I just going to have to win 20 straight games to get to a promo?


I vote this is a new banned topic.

No one's really gotten to the bottom of it yet and there probably is a good reason, so I don't see why it should be banned just yet. It's not confined to people near the top of their division.

Does it matter much? No. But it isn't derailing the thread for pages and pages like "what is a tank."


This happens because your mmr is a lot lower than your current league.It doesn't matter at all where in a league you are.The only reason you get lower when you are closer to a promotion is that the expected mmr gets higher.

Captain obvious out.
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
May 01 2013 23:31 GMT
#663
On May 02 2013 07:53 ticklishmusic wrote:
Another way that beats Draven is deny river vision. He naturally pushes b/c he has to try and keep Q up. When he does, gank the shit out of him.

Pretty much agree, Cait is probably the best all-around AD. Range good skill to have. I mean, she can get gimped, but overall she has the smoothest and easiest "power curve", if that makes sense-- she can farm easy, fight easy, etc whereas Vayne has atrocious laning, Kog does as well to an extent, Trist has crap midgame, so forth.

Varus/ Kog probably the other two strongest AD's right now, though they all fit different team compositions.

Cait has the advantage that she can pair with nearly any support and almost any team comp and still be a decent choice. Range also OP. Sort of like Lulu and Thresh in a way where you don't have to think terribly hard, pick them and still have a decent team comp at worst.

On May 02 2013 08:25 Sufficiency wrote:
I'm rich, I'm rich!

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Got my tax return, hue.
Man the US Treasury's check looks so fancy... with watermarks!
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Time to buy some skins? :3

They have to be pretty skins though.
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
May 01 2013 23:37 GMT
#664
Why is it everyone i see on LoL has like 500+ normal queue wins.

Seriously, i have like 150 normal wins and dont touch normals unless im back off a long break and need a few games practice (read: 2-3) yet everyone else seems like they spent half their life there?

I mean, i have about 400 games in S2 so thats 200 wins there at 50% which it was close to. Im at 150 S3 now with 78 wins so overall thats 278 or something close in ranked

Seriously, do i play literally no LoL whatsoever compared to everyone else? Is every LoL player on the planet a nolifer xD

1 game averages 35 mins ish, so with picks / bans + queues / other shit make it 45 min. 4 games a day is 3 hours, an average "light" gaming session. make that double on weekends and you've got 36 games / 18 wins a week.

So in a year you've only got a little over 200 wins, people must no-life HARD or have been playing non-stop for 2+ years or any combination of the two, over 2 years of LoL, I think ive only played it for about 12 months with all the breaks i take, but even so its impressive.

TL:DR - LoL players be nolifing.
Useless wet fish.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
May 01 2013 23:39 GMT
#665
don't normal wins track over all seasons?
Hey! Listen!
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
May 01 2013 23:41 GMT
#666
On May 02 2013 08:39 Navi wrote:
don't normal wins track over all seasons?

They do. Many people also play normals because they feel that ranked brings unnecessary stress and is a place for tryhards.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
May 01 2013 23:41 GMT
#667
On May 02 2013 00:43 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I don't get it. The choice is simple. Either the person who is basically a Nazi with no compelling qualities, the weird space alien who doesn't actually have any motivation or really any character (and who's symbol is a uterus), or the person who has actual consistent lore, some form of character development, and whose entire tribe was actually in the Freljord originally. And has arrows.

It's a simple choice.


No doubt! Ashe is one of the most likable champions in LoL. Shes so pretty and wise :3

and that icon is fucking legit, frost arrows all up in this crown
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
May 01 2013 23:42 GMT
#668
On May 02 2013 08:00 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 07:58 paladin8 wrote:
Thanks for the advice guys. We'll maybe rethink our champs since the general consensus seems to be that vayne/nunu is just really weak in lane.


If you enjoy playing something you should play it even if it is weak.Unless you are pro level it really doesn't matter.

Also cait isn't good at peeling for herself she is good at sieging or defending towers.In a real teamfight your only escape is a small dash(which slows) and is easily interruptable.Your range doesn't make you immune to the infinity gap closers every champ has.

her range makes it much easier to kite. other adcs not named tristana have to constantly reposition themselves, whereas that extra range on cait makes it so that those with gap closers have to commit hard to catch her.

on top of that, she's so versatile because she's safe sustained damage so she fits in any comp.
there are obvious tradeoffs when you pick versatility over a specialization but there are very few times where you can pick caitlyn and it would be detrimental to your team.

someone said soraka has a weak lane phase?
i think it's dependent on your adc. sivir/soraka is obnoxious. you can also bait lots of fights and abuse the armor buff on healing.
the biggest problem with picking soraka is that cc is more valued off of the support position. silence just doesn't cut it once the tower goes down.



Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 23:45:51
May 01 2013 23:45 GMT
#669
On May 02 2013 08:41 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 08:39 Navi wrote:
don't normal wins track over all seasons?

They do. Many people also play normals because they feel that ranked brings unnecessary stress and is a place for tryhards.


Sorry i meant i had 150 normal wins the other stats were my ranked stats. I was just comparing my overall games / wins to peoples normal wins - its absurdly different
Useless wet fish.
Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 23:56:39
May 01 2013 23:54 GMT
#670
--- Nuked ---
upperbound
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2300 Posts
May 01 2013 23:55 GMT
#671
On May 02 2013 08:30 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 08:26 upperbound wrote:
On May 02 2013 08:08 sob3k wrote:
On May 02 2013 08:05 GettingIt wrote:
I just started getting +4 and +5 pts for wins in GOLD I. How long until I actually get some decent points for wins? Or am I just going to have to win 20 straight games to get to a promo?


I vote this is a new banned topic.

No one's really gotten to the bottom of it yet and there probably is a good reason, so I don't see why it should be banned just yet. It's not confined to people near the top of their division.

Does it matter much? No. But it isn't derailing the thread for pages and pages like "what is a tank."


This happens because your mmr is a lot lower than your current league.It doesn't matter at all where in a league you are.The only reason you get lower when you are closer to a promotion is that the expected mmr gets higher.

Captain obvious out.

Except the "captain obvious" explanation makes no sense, because it happened to me at the end of a 9 game winning streak when I was getting 18-20 points for wins before the streak.

Unless you think my elo magically went down during my streak, that explains nothing.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 23:59:20
May 01 2013 23:57 GMT
#672
On May 02 2013 08:37 Capped wrote:
Why is it everyone i see on LoL has like 500+ normal queue wins.

Seriously, i have like 150 normal wins and dont touch normals unless im back off a long break and need a few games practice (read: 2-3) yet everyone else seems like they spent half their life there?

I mean, i have about 400 games in S2 so thats 200 wins there at 50% which it was close to. Im at 150 S3 now with 78 wins so overall thats 278 or something close in ranked

Seriously, do i play literally no LoL whatsoever compared to everyone else? Is every LoL player on the planet a nolifer xD

1 game averages 35 mins ish, so with picks / bans + queues / other shit make it 45 min. 4 games a day is 3 hours, an average "light" gaming session. make that double on weekends and you've got 36 games / 18 wins a week.

So in a year you've only got a little over 200 wins, people must no-life HARD or have been playing non-stop for 2+ years or any combination of the two, over 2 years of LoL, I think ive only played it for about 12 months with all the breaks i take, but even so its impressive.

TL:DR - LoL players be nolifing.

I hit about 2000 normal wins last month. No biggie.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-01 23:59:21
May 01 2013 23:58 GMT
#673
On May 02 2013 08:30 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 08:26 upperbound wrote:
On May 02 2013 08:08 sob3k wrote:
On May 02 2013 08:05 GettingIt wrote:
I just started getting +4 and +5 pts for wins in GOLD I. How long until I actually get some decent points for wins? Or am I just going to have to win 20 straight games to get to a promo?


I vote this is a new banned topic.

No one's really gotten to the bottom of it yet and there probably is a good reason, so I don't see why it should be banned just yet. It's not confined to people near the top of their division.

Does it matter much? No. But it isn't derailing the thread for pages and pages like "what is a tank."


This happens because your mmr is a lot lower than your current league.It doesn't matter at all where in a league you are.The only reason you get lower when you are closer to a promotion is that the expected mmr gets higher.

Captain obvious out.

No, this is wrong. When you approach a promotion from a division 1 to another league for the first time, the system ARTIFICIALLY CAPS YOUR LP GAINS regardless of your MMR. The trick is to lose one game then win the very next after getting really close. I was at 70~ and gained 12 6 4 3 3 to put me at 98 then lost one for -21 to put me down to 77 then won one and it instantly put me into a promo series. Before that I was gaining +30~ a win and now that I'm in plat 5 I'm getting about +24 a win.

It's a super stupid artificial cap that only happens at the 1st division of your league promo approach.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
May 02 2013 00:01 GMT
#674
On May 02 2013 08:37 Capped wrote:
Why is it everyone i see on LoL has like 500+ normal queue wins.

Seriously, i have like 150 normal wins and dont touch normals unless im back off a long break and need a few games practice (read: 2-3) yet everyone else seems like they spent half their life there?

I mean, i have about 400 games in S2 so thats 200 wins there at 50% which it was close to. Im at 150 S3 now with 78 wins so overall thats 278 or something close in ranked

Seriously, do i play literally no LoL whatsoever compared to everyone else? Is every LoL player on the planet a nolifer xD

1 game averages 35 mins ish, so with picks / bans + queues / other shit make it 45 min. 4 games a day is 3 hours, an average "light" gaming session. make that double on weekends and you've got 36 games / 18 wins a week.

So in a year you've only got a little over 200 wins, people must no-life HARD or have been playing non-stop for 2+ years or any combination of the two, over 2 years of LoL, I think ive only played it for about 12 months with all the breaks i take, but even so its impressive.

TL:DR - LoL players be nolifing.

everyone else that plays any kind of games must be a no lifer too huh.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
May 02 2013 00:02 GMT
#675
If you like playing games with friends you generally don't have a choice but to play normals.
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
May 02 2013 00:04 GMT
#676
A lot of people have a ton of normals because back in S1 and a good part of S2 if you wanted to play with like 2-3 more friends there wasn't really ARAM, no dominion and twisted tree line was shit/unbalanced so you played Normals to have fun without the stress of Ranked.

Some people just play normals because they don't care about ratings but don't want to play the shitfest that is blind pick.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
May 02 2013 00:04 GMT
#677
On May 02 2013 08:41 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 08:39 Navi wrote:
don't normal wins track over all seasons?

They do. Many people also play normals because they feel that ranked brings unnecessary stress and is a place for tryhards.

i play normals because i prefer to play with friends

sometimes we don't have 5 and even then it's not consistent 5 for ranked.
Parametric
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1261 Posts
May 02 2013 00:05 GMT
#678
On May 02 2013 08:58 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2013 08:30 nafta wrote:
On May 02 2013 08:26 upperbound wrote:
On May 02 2013 08:08 sob3k wrote:
On May 02 2013 08:05 GettingIt wrote:
I just started getting +4 and +5 pts for wins in GOLD I. How long until I actually get some decent points for wins? Or am I just going to have to win 20 straight games to get to a promo?


I vote this is a new banned topic.

No one's really gotten to the bottom of it yet and there probably is a good reason, so I don't see why it should be banned just yet. It's not confined to people near the top of their division.

Does it matter much? No. But it isn't derailing the thread for pages and pages like "what is a tank."


This happens because your mmr is a lot lower than your current league.It doesn't matter at all where in a league you are.The only reason you get lower when you are closer to a promotion is that the expected mmr gets higher.

Captain obvious out.

No, this is wrong. When you approach a promotion from a division 1 to another league for the first time, the system ARTIFICIALLY CAPS YOUR LP GAINS regardless of your MMR. The trick is to lose one game then win the very next after getting really close. I was at 70~ and gained 12 6 4 3 3 to put me at 98 then lost one for -21 to put me down to 77 then won one and it instantly put me into a promo series. Before that I was gaining +30~ a win and now that I'm in plat 5 I'm getting about +24 a win.

It's a super stupid artificial cap that only happens at the 1st division of your league promo approach.


I think it's set up like that because once you're in a league the only way out is decay from not playing for a really long period of time.

On the plus side, once you're in the next league you shoot through ranks like crazy.
Crispy Bacon craving overload.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
May 02 2013 00:05 GMT
#679
I haven't gotten any IP for the last ~20 games, anyone else having this? any news on a fix and getting a refund?
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
May 02 2013 00:05 GMT
#680
Ok lets do this! Poll time! xD

Poll: Your number of Normal Wins?

500-1000 (24)
 
43%

1000+ (12)
 
21%

250-500 (10)
 
18%

100-250 (9)
 
16%

0-100 (1)
 
2%

56 total votes

Your vote: Your number of Normal Wins?

(Vote): 0-100
(Vote): 100-250
(Vote): 250-500
(Vote): 500-1000
(Vote): 1000+


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